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Wingnuts: Companies/corporations NEED to plan ahead 10 years.

Also Wingnuts: Companies/corporations that cannot plan for inventory or production in the coming months due to Trump's on again/off again nonsensical tariffs will just have to SUCK IT UP.
Are you having a stroke?
 
Elon. X. Twitter. That's who fed me this. Why are you doubting Elon?
I don't give a shit what Musk said. The fact is China is building more coal fired plants and is the largest carbon producer in the world.

According to you idiots CO2 is a pollutant you should be screaming about that instead of lapping up CCP propaganda.
 
I don't give a shit what Musk said. The fact is China is building more coal fired plants and is the largest carbon producer in the world.

According to you idiots CO2 is a pollutant you should be screaming about that instead of lapping up CCP propaganda.
He's a propagandist. Syn is a paid shill, spending every waking moment posting his propaganda here.
 
I don't give a shit what Musk said. The fact is China is building more coal fired plants and is the largest carbon producer in the world.

According to you idiots CO2 is a pollutant you should be screaming about that instead of lapping up CCP propaganda.
And once again you are ignoring the post that I tagged you with, about the solar producing more than the US.
 
And once again you are ignoring the post that I tagged you with, about the solar producing more than the US.
And producing 3 times as much CO2 as the US. Just keep on lapping up that CCP propaganda.

 
What does coal have to do with solar?
The whole point of the green energy bullshit according to you loons is to lower C02 production, China my be producing more solar power but they are also pumping out more of your so called green house gasses.
 
The whole point of the green energy bullshit according to you loons is to lower C02 production, China my be producing more solar power but they are also pumping out more of your so called green house gasses.
No, that's your straw man, so that you can argue against it. I lost a lot of money from the Deepwater Horizen oil spill that decimated businesses for years along the Florida Gulf Coast. It's not just CO2. It's destruction of the environment. Cutting off the tops of mountains, creating runoff.

And when China gets to a level with solar that makes coal unnecessary, they will back that down.

All your hand-waving about coal has nothing to do with the runaway success of solar, and MY POINT is that all you clowns were wrong and I was right. Just read through this thread for all the dimwits who claimed solar could never power AI or anything except light a lamp - but only in the daytime! :auiqs.jpg:

You fools.
 
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elektra wants proof. Here's what AI has to say:

The U.S. government provides substantial subsidies to the oil industry, which can be categorized into direct and indirect forms. Here’s a breakdown of the current subsidies:

Question: Which oil industry subsidies from the U.S. government are currently in effect?


  1. Direct Subsidies:
    • The U.S. government allocates approximately $3 billion in explicit subsidies annually. These are direct financial supports to oil companies.
  2. Indirect Subsidies:
    • The fossil fuel industry benefits from an estimated $754 billion in implicit subsidies. These include costs associated with negative health impacts, environmental degradation, and other externalities that are not accounted for in the market price of fossil fuels.
  3. Total Estimated Subsidies:
    • Overall, estimates suggest that the U.S. fossil fuel industry receives around $760 billion annually when combining both direct and indirect subsidies. This figure highlights the significant financial support the industry receives from taxpayers.
  4. Recent Discussions:
    • There have been ongoing discussions and proposals aimed at reducing these subsidies, as many argue they contribute to climate change and do not align with sustainable energy goals.

These figures illustrate the substantial financial backing the oil industry receives, which has been a topic of debate among policymakers and environmental advocates.
 
Here's the same question, put to Microsoft CoPilot:

As of mid-2025, the U.S. government continues to support the oil and gas industry through a mix of tax incentives, direct expenditures, and regulatory advantages. Here are some of the key subsidies currently in effect:


  • Tax breaks for exploration and drilling: Independent producers can deduct intangible drilling costs and geological expenses, allowing them to recover investments faster than standard depreciation rules would allow.
  • Percentage depletion allowance: This lets certain producers deduct a fixed percentage of their gross income from oil and gas wells, regardless of actual costs—a benefit not available to most other industries.
  • Publicly traded partnership loophole: Some oil and gas companies can avoid corporate income tax by operating as publicly traded partnerships, a structure typically not available to other sectors.
  • Carbon capture tax credits: Companies receive up to $85 per ton of COâ‚‚ permanently stored underground, and up to $60 per ton if used for enhanced oil recovery. These credits are intended to support emissions reduction but also benefit fossil fuel extraction.

A recent Senate proposal would expand these subsidies by an additional $18 billion over the next decade, while simultaneously cutting incentives for renewable energy and electric vehicles.
 
It's gotten so quiet in this thread. 🤔 :auiqs.jpg:



 
elektra wants proof. Here's what AI has to say:

The U.S. government provides substantial subsidies to the oil industry, which can be categorized into direct and indirect forms. Here’s a breakdown of the current subsidies:

Question: Which oil industry subsidies from the U.S. government are currently in effect?

  1. Direct Subsidies:
    • The U.S. government allocates approximately $3 billion in explicit subsidies annually. These are direct financial supports to oil companies.
  2. Indirect Subsidies:
    • The fossil fuel industry benefits from an estimated $754 billion in implicit subsidies. These include costs associated with negative health impacts, environmental degradation, and other externalities that are not accounted for in the market price of fossil fuels.
  3. Total Estimated Subsidies:
    • Overall, estimates suggest that the U.S. fossil fuel industry receives around $760 billion annually when combining both direct and indirect subsidies. This figure highlights the significant financial support the industry receives from taxpayers.
  4. Recent Discussions:
    • There have been ongoing discussions and proposals aimed at reducing these subsidies, as many argue they contribute to climate change and do not align with sustainable energy goals.

These figures illustrate the substantial financial backing the oil industry receives, which has been a topic of debate among policymakers and environmental advocates.
Hahaha! AI is nothing more than a google search.

I can play
elektra wants proof. Here's what AI has to say:

The U.S. government provides substantial subsidies to the oil industry, which can be categorized into direct and indirect forms. Here’s a breakdown of the current subsidies:

Question: Which oil industry subsidies from the U.S. government are currently in effect?

  1. Direct Subsidies:
    • The U.S. government allocates approximately $3 billion in explicit subsidies annually. These are direct financial supports to oil companies.
  2. Indirect Subsidies:
    • The fossil fuel industry benefits from an estimated $754 billion in implicit subsidies. These include costs associated with negative health impacts, environmental degradation, and other externalities that are not accounted for in the market price of fossil fuels.
  3. Total Estimated Subsidies:
    • Overall, estimates suggest that the U.S. fossil fuel industry receives around $760 billion annually when combining both direct and indirect subsidies. This figure highlights the significant financial support the industry receives from taxpayers.
  4. Recent Discussions:
    • There have been ongoing discussions and proposals aimed at reducing these subsidies, as many argue they contribute to climate change and do not align with sustainable energy goals.

These figures illustrate the substantial financial backing the oil industry receives, which has been a topic of debate among policymakers and environmental advocates.
Hahaha, you asked AI which subsidies are in effect and it did not tell you. Direct and indirect, could ai be more vague.

Idiot synthalohic has no idea what subsidies exist. Synth can not name one and thinks a clumsy ai search is a smart idea.

You really are this dumb.
 

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It's gotten so quiet in this thread. 🤔 :auiqs.jpg:
That means you have been chatting with yourself here, idiot. It is also quiet at the battery backup plant at Moss Landing. It burnt up a few times now there are lawsuits for the toxic damage the battery fires have caused

Chew on this dumbass

The Moss Landing battery fire has raised significant environmental and health concerns due to the potential release of hazardous substances. The fire, which occurred at the Vistra energy facility, released particulate matter, heavy metals, and other toxic chemicals into the air and surrounding areas. This contamination has led to investigations and ongoing monitoring of soil and water quality to assess the long-term impact on the ecosystem and human health.

Environmental Impacts:

  • Soil Contamination:
    Soil samples near the fire site, including those from the Elkhorn Slough Reserve, showed elevated levels of nickel, manganese, and cobalt, all of which are used in lithium-ion batteries. These heavy metals can transform in the environment and potentially affect aquatic and terrestrial ecosystems.
  • Air Pollution:
    The fire released various toxic chemicals, including carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen, methane, hydrogen cyanide, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, dioxins, furans, acrolein, and hydrogen fluoride.
  • Water Quality:
    While the extent of water contamination is still being investigated, the fire's impact on the nearby Elkhorn Slough raises concerns about potential impacts on the marine environment.
Health Concerns:
  • Respiratory Issues:
    Inhalation of particulate matter and other toxic substances from the fire can cause irritation, inflammation, and potential long-term damage to the lungs.
  • Long-term Exposure:
    The heavy metals and other toxins released can pose long-term health risks, including potential neurological problems and cancer, especially with prolonged exposure.
  • Public Health Advisory:
    Following the fire, the Monterey County health officials have been working with experts to assess the health risks and advise the public on potential exposure pathways.
Ongoing Investigations:
  • Air Monitoring:
    The EPA conducted air monitoring during and after the fire, but further testing is needed to assess the full extent of air pollution and its impact.
  • Soil Testing:
    Ongoing soil testing is being conducted to determine the levels of contamination and the areas affected by the fire.
  • Water Quality Assessment:
    The impact of the fire on water quality, particularly in the Elkhorn Slough, is also being investigated.
The Moss Landing battery fire has highlighted the potential environmental and health risks associated with large-scale lithium-ion battery installations. Continued monitoring and investigations are crucial to understand the full extent of the impact and to develop strategies for mitigating future incidents.
 
You're like the dopes from a few years ago saying "EV can only go 100 miles before you have to charge them again. Junk!"

Now they go 500+ miles.

You're just always going to be a step behind, while the Chinese dominate yet another industry, given to them by the Republicans.

And who gives a shit about missing profit expectations? That has nothing to do with viability. But you have nothing real to argue so you argue profits. :laugh:
 
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