Obama-backed $2.2B green energy 'boondoggle' leaves taxpayers on the hook

[j-mac]

The Trump administration is the opposite of that approach.

Good

 

[Marener]

Good

You're opposed to what's good for the nation and in favor for what's good for Trump.

 

[j-mac]

You're opposed to what's good for the nation and in favor for what's good for Trump.

Dems lies aren’t good for the nation, the people told you that in ‘24.

 

[Marener]

Dems lies aren’t good for the nation, the people told you that in ‘24.

Your lies aren't good for the nation.

Coal isn't clean.

Coal isn't cheap.

But Trump is forcing working class Americans to pay for it anyway because it's good for his voters.

Wind and solar is far better, as part of a comprehensive strategy, is clean. It is cheap.

But Trump is spending taxpayer dollars to shut down these projects and wasting billions of our hard earned money for no reason other than irrational rage and hatred.

 

[Nostra]

Poor Q-NUT.
You little SNOWFLAKE Trump cult members, whine about Obama or Biden doing this or that, but when your hypocritical whiny, dear leader gets exposed for doing even worse shit............It's an "Orange Man Bad or TDS", response.

See. It is impossible for you to post without whining about Trump.

You just can’t do it.

 

[Nostra]

Your lies aren't good for the nation.

Coal isn't clean.

Coal isn't cheap.

But Trump is forcing working class Americans to pay for it anyway because it's good for his voters.

Wind and solar is far better, as part of a comprehensive strategy, is clean. It is cheap.

But Trump is spending taxpayer dollars to shut down these projects and wasting billions of our hard earned money for no reason other than irrational rage and hatred.

Wind and solar are not reliable, and are bad for the environment.

 

[Independent thinker]

Obama-backed $2.2B green energy 'boondoggle' leaves taxpayers on the hook

Taxpayers and electricity customers face a costly standoff over the Ivanpah solar plant as California regulators block all efforts to shut it down.

www.foxnews.com

Here we go again another solar energy business driving up the cost going broke and democrats wanst to keep it going. Where ese but in Calif.
But California regulators have refused to allow it to close, warning that closing the plant could strain the power grid.


The result is a costly standoff rooted in years of government decisions: shutting it down could leave taxpayers responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars tied to a $1.6 billion federal loan, while keeping it open means higher electricity costs for consumers.

"This project makes no economic sense to keep afloat, and the market itself has shown that," Daniel Turner, founder of the energy advocacy group Power The Future, told Fox News Digital.

"This is a boondoggle, like most of California's large projects are a boondoggle," he said, arguing it is being kept alive for political reasons, with costs ultimately passed on to customers.

"At some point, you have to stop throwing good money after bad," he added.

I think it's funny when Calfornia regulates the hell out of power plant energy and then when transmission lines start a fire, they want to fine the hell out of the power company. Makes me wonder who in the hell is actually paying those fines.

 

[sartre play]

Your lies aren't good for the nation.

Coal isn't clean.

Coal isn't cheap.

But Trump is forcing working class Americans to pay for it anyway because it's good for his voters.

Wind and solar is far better, as part of a comprehensive strategy, is clean. It is cheap.

But Trump is spending taxpayer dollars to shut down these projects and wasting billions of our hard earned money for no reason other than irrational rage and hatred.

This my way or nothing is no good.
working on the best ways to use all our resources. Not just using
them as political propaganda tools.

 

[j-mac]

Your lies aren't good for the nation.

Coal isn't clean.

Coal isn't cheap.

But Trump is forcing working class Americans to pay for it anyway because it's good for his voters.

Wind and solar is far better, as part of a comprehensive strategy, is clean. It is cheap.

But Trump is spending taxpayer dollars to shut down these projects and wasting billions of our hard earned money for no reason other than irrational rage and hatred.

If it’s so good, then they should be able to stand alone, without government subsidies, and compete in the market place. But, you and I both know because wind or solar has NO CHANCE competing against other energy sources.

 

[Marener]

If it’s so good, then they should be able to stand alone, without government subsidies, and compete in the market place. But, you and I both know because wind or solar has NO CHANCE competing against other energy sources.

They already stripped subsidies. Now the administration is literally paying people not to build wind farms.

It’s stupid.

Meanwhile Trump is forcing producers by declaring bullshit emergencies to keep coal plants open, because coal can’t compete with other energy sources.

 

[Nostra]

They already stripped subsidies. Now the administration is literally paying people not to build wind farms.

It’s stupid.

Meanwhile Trump is forcing producers by declaring bullshit emergencies to keep coal plants open, because coal can’t compete with other energy sources.

Got links?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

If it’s so good, then they should be able to stand alone, without government subsidies, and compete in the market place. But, you and I both know because wind or solar has NO CHANCE competing against other energy sources.

Yeah, like oil companies.........

Fossil-fuel firms receive US subsidies worth $31bn each ...​

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › environment › sep › fos...

Sep 9, 2025 — The US currently subsidizes the fossil-fuel industry to the tune of nearly $31bn per year, according to a new analysis. That figure, calculated calculated by the environmental campaign group Oil Change International, has more than doubled since 2017.

And it is likely a vast understatement, due to the difficulty of quantifying the financial gains from some government supports, and to a lack of transparency and reliable data from government sources, the group says.

 

[j-mac]

Yeah, like oil companies.........

Fossil-fuel firms receive US subsidies worth $31bn each ...​

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › environment › sep › fos...

Sep 9, 2025 — The US currently subsidizes the fossil-fuel industry to the tune of nearly $31bn per year, according to a new analysis. That figure, calculated calculated by the environmental campaign group Oil Change International, has more than doubled since 2017.

And it is likely a vast understatement, due to the difficulty of quantifying the financial gains from some government supports, and to a lack of transparency and reliable data from government sources, the group says.

So, you have an article speculating because they don’t have access to everything….So, why should I take their word for anything?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

So, you have an article speculating because they don’t have access to everything….So, why should I take their word for anything?

Fossil Fuel Industry Receives $35 Billion Each Year in ...​

Oil Change International
https://oilchange.org › news › us-fossil-fuel-subsidies




Sep 9, 2025 — A new report from Oil Change International reveals the staggering scope of federal government subsidies for fossil fuel production.

 

[j-mac]

Fossil Fuel Industry Receives $35 Billion Each Year in ...​

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Oil Change International
https://oilchange.org › news › us-fossil-fuel-subsidies




Sep 9, 2025 — A new report from Oil Change International reveals the staggering scope of federal government subsidies for fossil fuel production.

Oil Change International was founded in 2005 by Stephen Kretzmann. The organization’s work involves the process of estimating the environmental damages caused by traditional energy and working to shut the industry down. Oil Change International has claimed in their research that “gas is dirty, expensive and unnecessary.” The group further calls for the U.S. to spend government money to research projects to replace conventional energy with environmentalist-approved sources and stopping further permits on oil expansion. The group supports the climate goals in the Paris Agreement.

Oil Change International - Influence Watch

www.influencewatch.org

Nice try.

 

[ColonelAngus]

No one is stopping you commies from NOT USING PETROLEUM PRODUCTS,

Just do it.

 

[Marener]

Oil Change International was founded in 2005 by Stephen Kretzmann. The organization’s work involves the process of estimating the environmental damages caused by traditional energy and working to shut the industry down. Oil Change International has claimed in their research that “gas is dirty, expensive and unnecessary.” The group further calls for the U.S. to spend government money to research projects to replace conventional energy with environmentalist-approved sources and stopping further permits on oil expansion. The group supports the climate goals in the Paris Agreement.

Oil Change International - Influence Watch

www.influencewatch.org

Nice try.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-directs-energy-department-issue-funds-keep-coal-plants-online-2026-02-11/

 

[ColonelAngus]

I REPEAT:

Those of you so concerned about FOSSIL FUELS…..STOP USING PETROLEUM PRODUCTS….AND STFU.

 

[Nostra]

Fossil Fuel Industry Receives $35 Billion Each Year in ...​

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Oil Change International
https://oilchange.org › news › us-fossil-fuel-subsidies




Sep 9, 2025 — A new report from Oil Change International reveals the staggering scope of federal government subsidies for fossil fuel production.

Gotta link?

 

[Nostra]

Oil Change International was founded in 2005 by Stephen Kretzmann. The organization’s work involves the process of estimating the environmental damages caused by traditional energy and working to shut the industry down. Oil Change International has claimed in their research that “gas is dirty, expensive and unnecessary.” The group further calls for the U.S. to spend government money to research projects to replace conventional energy with environmentalist-approved sources and stopping further permits on oil expansion. The group supports the climate goals in the Paris Agreement.

Oil Change International - Influence Watch

www.influencewatch.org

Nice try.

No wonder he left out the link……