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South Korea ordered test kits in January as well as medical supplies and equipment needed to fight the virus. We had the same information they had we had same number of cornavirus cases in January, one. South Korea reduced the total number of cases from their peak in March by 33%. For the same period, the total number of cases in the US have increased by 850%. How come?
Because we have a much bigger population and have done more testing. Why don't you compare relative death rates?
No! Both countries had only 1 case in January when South Korea ordered test kits and supplies needed to stop the virus. The US did nether. South Korea blocked travel from Italy and other countries with increasing numbers of cases. The US did so only weeks later. China with population of 4 times the US, has stopped the virus in 4 months. The size of the country is relevant only to the preparation and planning for the next epidemic. The US had far greater resources than South Korea, yet it was far less prepared simply because it choose to use those resources elsewhere. Now the country will pay the price.

Although Trump is certainly to blame for ignoring everybody from the World Health Organization, the CDC, the AMA, Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and even a report that came out of Homeland Security last year, however he is not totally to blame. US presidents have never heeded the warnings of a pandemic, not Reagan, not Clinton, not Bush, and not Obama.
masks and sanitizer etc was bought up near immediately in China etc in January, Bloomberg reported on it.... how the heck could our govt miss that, and not realize the same would happen here, is beyond me....


 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Finally someone here gets it!
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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
What's wrong with a cashless society?
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
What's wrong with a cashless society?

who determines how much credit you have to spend? answer that and you will understand why a cashless society would be a disaster.
 

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We used to quarantine sick people. Now we quarantine people who are not sick. Welcome to Utopia.
It's because the USA Fd up, and did not have enough tests, to know who to Quarantine.


Thus trying to shelter in place, everyone.

THAT would not be the case, if we began testing in January.

All the what ifs in the world can't change the fact....
Are you listening to yourself?

How can you have tests for something completely new and unknown? You'd think that test is available immediately when new disease strike?

How can you begin testing in January when China, place where this shit started was covering up their own outbreak like it didn't happen?

Go back and look at your posts from February (I just did), and you'll notice that you didn't even talk about Coronavirus before mid month.
Had we traced down all contacts during the first few months and quarantined them, limited all foreign travel to the US, and had test kits that actually worked, we would not be isolating the general public today. The blame lies with the current and previous administrations for not listening the CDC, the WHO, and numerous epidemiologists who told us that America was not prepared for a pandemic.

there is no way that any country could prepare in advance for something like this. Its ridiculous and naive to claim that any should have.

How can you prepare for something that has never happened and something that you do not know about?

what needs to happen now is for the entire world to find out how and why this virus was created. China has been lying about it from the beginning, so, was it intentional? was there a leak at the lab in Wuhan? Did a worker at the lab take a test animal out and eat it for dinner? Did some test animals escape?
 

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Another leading cause of death in the next six months of this will be urban suicides. Waking up from the American dream will not be an option for many.
 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
What's wrong with a cashless society?

who determines how much credit you have to spend? answer that and you will understand why a cashless society would be a disaster.
Who said anything about credit? I can go a whole month paying bills and making purchases without once having to use credit or touch cash. Have you never heard of a debit card?
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?
We sacrificed over 18,000 for your precious Obama. We have lost about 500 and killed the economy. Tell me, what you gonna do when the government runs out of money because no one is working?
Your messiah was too much of a fucking coward to go to Nam but now he wants people to return to work risking their lives to save the wealth of his cronies, his golf courses & his reelection. Eat shit, Trumptard.
So a pussy like yourself is going to call out trump? Lol, you would like the economy totally tank and bankrupt america, just because you didn't get your little way in the election. Sorry snowflake TRUMPwill be your president till 2025.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?
The irony when liberals talk about “saving lives”. Whose lives? Does that include the elderly? Look at your sides’ concern about overpopulation.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
What's wrong with a cashless society?

who determines how much credit you have to spend? answer that and you will understand why a cashless society would be a disaster.
Who said anything about credit? I can go a whole month paying bills and making purchases without once having to use credit or touch cash. Have you never heard of a debit card?

of course you can, so can I. But currently that value that we can spend by debit cards is dependent on our income and is readily convertible into cash.


In a cashless society the conversion to cash no longer exists and the government could very easily confiscate whatever value you have in your bank accounts as taxes.

That is happening today in Greece. any money in a bank can be taken by the government as taxes without your approval or knowledge. So, in Greece today almost all transactions are in cash. Careful what you wish for twitchey. it isn't what you think it is.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?
The irony when liberals talk about “saving lives”. Whose lives? Does that include the elderly? Look at your sides’ concern about overpopulation.
What about the real concern with overpopulation? It has nothing to do with the elderly. it has to do with not having too many children.

I believe it is all Republicans that say the elderly can be sacrificed to the economy.
 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
What's wrong with a cashless society?

who determines how much credit you have to spend? answer that and you will understand why a cashless society would be a disaster.
Who said anything about credit? I can go a whole month paying bills and making purchases without once having to use credit or touch cash. Have you never heard of a debit card?

of course you can, so can I. But currently that value that we can spend by debit cards is dependent on our income and is readily convertible into cash.


In a cashless society the conversion to cash no longer exists and the government could very easily confiscate whatever value you have in your bank accounts as taxes.

That is happening today in Greece. any money in a bank can be taken by the government as taxes without your approval or knowledge. So, in Greece today almost all transactions are in cash. Careful what you wish for twitchey. it isn't what you think it is.
Ooohhh...so it makes it so you can't cheat on your taxes...Yeah, that would be awful....:lol:
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.

you are wrong about all of this, as usual.

The flu has overwhelmed hospitals in the past, so did H1N1 when the kenyan messiah did nothing until thousands of americans had died from it.

There is an outbreak here in New Orleans right now of corona. Mostly because of Mardi Gras and the inactions of the stupid incompetent mayor. But even so the latest reports show just under 50% of hospital beds are available now.

I fully understand that you and your fellow libtards want this to devastate the country so you can demonize Trump for it. But that is not going to work for you. It is being controlled, medications are being found that successfully treat it and Trump will be president for another 4 years.

Rather than the partisan bullshit, what we should be focusing on is how this started in China and why they lied about it for weeks. But I get it, you would rather watch americans suffer if you think it helps you politically. Pathetic.
 

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The statistics won't matter to me if I'm the one who dies ...

Oregon governor Kate Brown asked us to stay at home, restrict travel and practice social distancing ... we immediately had one of our busiest travel days in history ... so Governor Brown demanded we stay at home and then all our public places filled up with people elbow-to-elbow ... so the Governor has now ordered us to stay home, under penalty of law ...

Oregonians ... what can I say ...
What is the legal authority of arresting people for being out in public? Or for shutting down a business?
 

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The problem is that most here are looking at this from a very limited and extremely partisan perspective. This whole thing is so much bigger than the US, Trump, Democrats and Republicans. (And I’m not talking about the virus which is just a pretext.) There are power grabs going on globally, and this is not a temporary thing. You can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube. The world is changing, and not in a good way. This thing is bringing us one step closer to the NWO, and eventually a cashless society. They will use the excuse that money is too dirty, germs are too easily passed with money, so we’re going to see more and more places not accepting cash, and that’s just the beginning. All of this is about total control and moving us in the direction that the people who run this world have been wanting to move us in for a very, very long time. Long before Trump was a glimmer in his daddy‘s eye. In order to take us toward something new, they have to destroy what currently exists. There is so much more to this than most here seem to realize, and it is not good at all, to put it mildly.
Much like 9/11, only even greater! :eek:

But it's hard to believe China is who they, whomever they is, would use to bring the whole world under their, whomever their is, control?

Only the Asian countries had a plan on how to handle this outbreak, and all of us westernized nations have gone through a series of Murphy's Law.....? Weird, how does that all fit in?

Remember, God gives power unto the beast, for a time, times, and half a time.... it's part of his plan.... it does seem like we are getting closer.... the cashless society is right around the corner....
What's wrong with a cashless society?

who determines how much credit you have to spend? answer that and you will understand why a cashless society would be a disaster.
Who said anything about credit? I can go a whole month paying bills and making purchases without once having to use credit or touch cash. Have you never heard of a debit card?

of course you can, so can I. But currently that value that we can spend by debit cards is dependent on our income and is readily convertible into cash.


In a cashless society the conversion to cash no longer exists and the government could very easily confiscate whatever value you have in your bank accounts as taxes.

That is happening today in Greece. any money in a bank can be taken by the government as taxes without your approval or knowledge. So, in Greece today almost all transactions are in cash. Careful what you wish for twitchey. it isn't what you think it is.
Ooohhh...so it makes it so you can't cheat on your taxes...Yeah, that would be awful....:lol:

are you totally ignorant? do you want the government to be able to put an assessment on your bank account at will? and without your knowledge or consent?

Its not about cheating on taxes, its about freedom from oppressive government.
 

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The statistics won't matter to me if I'm the one who dies ...

Oregon governor Kate Brown asked us to stay at home, restrict travel and practice social distancing ... we immediately had one of our busiest travel days in history ... so Governor Brown demanded we stay at home and then all our public places filled up with people elbow-to-elbow ... so the Governor has now ordered us to stay home, under penalty of law ...

Oregonians ... what can I say ...
What is the legal authority of arresting people for being out in public? Or for shutting down a business?

sounds like marital law. libs are so stupid that they want that.
 

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