Our Economy Can't Take This, Get it Over With

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
You want to have another great depression? Really? You must be on a government pension. No one could be this big of an asshole.
No, I do not, but I also do not want thousands of Americans to die for the economy. If I had to choose a Depression or thousands of Americans dying from COVID, I choose a Depression. We can recover from a Depression, these people can't get their loved ones back.

You do understand people will die in a depression also, so as you saved those lives from the virus you are sacrificing others at the same time.

Millions will lose their homes, jobs and so on which leads to higher crime and war during a World Wide Depression...

Maybe that is your end goal is wanting a War?
You do understand that I have already provided the data debunking that claim.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.
In comparison, projections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that deaths from the coronavirus in the United States could range from 200,000 to 1.7 million.
In your own fucking comment you admitted suicide rates went up, so you did not debunk anything!

Traffic accidents back then in the 1930's would have decreased seeing people could not afford to drive!

Fact is crime will rise, starvation will rise and did you notice that World War that Started during the Great Depression?

So Jesus fucking Christ you are fine with increase in suicide just as long as you kill our economy!
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
 

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Since the right nuts want to go back to normal I say let them, also let them contaminate each other in trump rallies...trump is at high risk given his age along with pence. They asking for it, I say let them.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
You want to have another great depression? Really? You must be on a government pension. No one could be this big of an asshole.
No, I do not, but I also do not want thousands of Americans to die for the economy. If I had to choose a Depression or thousands of Americans dying from COVID, I choose a Depression. We can recover from a Depression, these people can't get their loved ones back.

You do understand people will die in a depression also, so as you saved those lives from the virus you are sacrificing others at the same time.

Millions will lose their homes, jobs and so on which leads to higher crime and war during a World Wide Depression...

Maybe that is your end goal is wanting a War?
You do understand that I have already provided the data debunking that claim.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.
In comparison, projections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that deaths from the coronavirus in the United States could range from 200,000 to 1.7 million.
In your own fucking comment you admitted suicide rates went up, so you did not debunk anything!

Traffic accidents back then in the 1930's would have decreased seeing people could not afford to drive!

Fact is crime will rise, starvation will rise and did you notice that World War that Started during the Great Depression?

So Jesus fucking Christ you are fine with increase in suicide just as long as you kill our economy!
The FACT is that far more people will die from this virus than a recession or depression.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
Wow!

That is pathetic after admitting you are fine throwing the World into a great depression...
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
You want to have another great depression? Really? You must be on a government pension. No one could be this big of an asshole.
No, I do not, but I also do not want thousands of Americans to die for the economy. If I had to choose a Depression or thousands of Americans dying from COVID, I choose a Depression. We can recover from a Depression, these people can't get their loved ones back.

You do understand people will die in a depression also, so as you saved those lives from the virus you are sacrificing others at the same time.

Millions will lose their homes, jobs and so on which leads to higher crime and war during a World Wide Depression...

Maybe that is your end goal is wanting a War?
You do understand that I have already provided the data debunking that claim.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.
In comparison, projections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that deaths from the coronavirus in the United States could range from 200,000 to 1.7 million.
In your own fucking comment you admitted suicide rates went up, so you did not debunk anything!

Traffic accidents back then in the 1930's would have decreased seeing people could not afford to drive!

Fact is crime will rise, starvation will rise and did you notice that World War that Started during the Great Depression?

So Jesus fucking Christ you are fine with increase in suicide just as long as you kill our economy!
The FACT is that far more people will die from this virus than a recession or depression.
No, because you are lying about the facts!

I just debunked your own response to me and you believe less people will die in a depression than the virus!

Fact is we have yet hit Flu level deaths here or around the World, so until then you are full of shit!
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
Wow!

That is pathetic after admitting you are fine throwing the World into a great depression...
Wow, what is pathetic is you willing to kill off hundreds of thousands of people just so Trump can continue to tout a great economy. That ship has sailed, but he could still get reelected if he acted like a normal President reacting to a crisis instead of the buffoon he is caring only about his reelection and not the American people.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
You want to have another great depression? Really? You must be on a government pension. No one could be this big of an asshole.
No, I do not, but I also do not want thousands of Americans to die for the economy. If I had to choose a Depression or thousands of Americans dying from COVID, I choose a Depression. We can recover from a Depression, these people can't get their loved ones back.

You do understand people will die in a depression also, so as you saved those lives from the virus you are sacrificing others at the same time.

Millions will lose their homes, jobs and so on which leads to higher crime and war during a World Wide Depression...

Maybe that is your end goal is wanting a War?
You do understand that I have already provided the data debunking that claim.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.
In comparison, projections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that deaths from the coronavirus in the United States could range from 200,000 to 1.7 million.
In your own fucking comment you admitted suicide rates went up, so you did not debunk anything!

Traffic accidents back then in the 1930's would have decreased seeing people could not afford to drive!

Fact is crime will rise, starvation will rise and did you notice that World War that Started during the Great Depression?

So Jesus fucking Christ you are fine with increase in suicide just as long as you kill our economy!
The FACT is that far more people will die from this virus than a recession or depression.
No, because you are lying about the facts!

I just debunked your own response to me and you believe less people will die in a depression than the virus!

Fact is we have yet hit Flu level deaths here or around the World, so until then you are full of shit!
Mortality went down during both the Depression and the recession. I'll say that again because you are apparently very stupid. Mortality went DOWN during both the Depression and the recession. FEWER people died than during a booming economy. This virus will kill a million people if the curve is not flattened. The economy will recover, dead people don't.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
You want to have another great depression? Really? You must be on a government pension. No one could be this big of an asshole.
No, I do not, but I also do not want thousands of Americans to die for the economy. If I had to choose a Depression or thousands of Americans dying from COVID, I choose a Depression. We can recover from a Depression, these people can't get their loved ones back.

You do understand people will die in a depression also, so as you saved those lives from the virus you are sacrificing others at the same time.

Millions will lose their homes, jobs and so on which leads to higher crime and war during a World Wide Depression...

Maybe that is your end goal is wanting a War?
You do understand that I have already provided the data debunking that claim.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.
In comparison, projections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that deaths from the coronavirus in the United States could range from 200,000 to 1.7 million.
In your own fucking comment you admitted suicide rates went up, so you did not debunk anything!

Traffic accidents back then in the 1930's would have decreased seeing people could not afford to drive!

Fact is crime will rise, starvation will rise and did you notice that World War that Started during the Great Depression?

So Jesus fucking Christ you are fine with increase in suicide just as long as you kill our economy!
The FACT is that far more people will die from this virus than a recession or depression.
Not sure you know meaning of the ford "fact".
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

what a fricken stupid thing to say. and coming from the party that supports the killing of millions of unborn humans every year (and the vast majority of them are minority children) the party of tolerance , right?

90% of people who get corona will either not know they have it or will have very mild symptoms. Those who die are those who have other major health issues or compromised immune systems.

tell us, how many of those people would have died anyway? don't know do you? But to get an accurate count of the corona mortality rate we need that number.
We need to take the remains from some of those who pass on with health issues and study the heck out of their bodies for reasons beyond the known.
And when it turns out they died because they caught this virus? What will your excuse be then? Why not just accept that this is a deadly disease that is overwhelming our healthcare system?

because it isn't any of those things. It is not the bubonic plague, it isn't common flu, it isn't measles or chicken pox, or whooping cough. It is a virus with a mortality rate similar to the common flu that takes millions of people every year.

the overreaction and panic is much more dangerous than the virus.

Hospitals are only having issues in NYC and some parts of Cal and Washington state. The government has sent the hospital ships and is building new medical facilities in those places.


shutting down the economy will cause many more deaths than this chinese virus.
It is nothing like the flu. The flu does not overwhelm hospitals with critically ill patients. We are acting (far too slowly) not overreacting.

No, shutting down the economy is not going to kill more people than the virus. That's a ludicrous statement. Here are some actual facts, not lies spewed by Trump.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.

And, no, little fish, it's not just NY and CA that are having issues with finding enough ICU beds, ventilators, PPE or tests...It's America. Americans are dying. Not liberals or conservatives. Not Democrats or Republicans. Americans.
You want to have another great depression? Really? You must be on a government pension. No one could be this big of an asshole.
No, I do not, but I also do not want thousands of Americans to die for the economy. If I had to choose a Depression or thousands of Americans dying from COVID, I choose a Depression. We can recover from a Depression, these people can't get their loved ones back.

You do understand people will die in a depression also, so as you saved those lives from the virus you are sacrificing others at the same time.

Millions will lose their homes, jobs and so on which leads to higher crime and war during a World Wide Depression...

Maybe that is your end goal is wanting a War?
You do understand that I have already provided the data debunking that claim.

It is difficult to disaggregate the impact of an economic downturn on health and mortality from other factors. Those who become unemployed do tend to have higher levels of depression and bad health. But for the general population, studies have found that death rates from other causes — cardiovascular disease, respiratory diseases, and traffic and industrial injuries — were either unchanged or actually decreased.
For example, a 2012 study found that suicides did increase during the Depression of the 1930s, but the death rate for car accidents decreased and no significant effects were observed for 30 other causes of death in the United States. A 2009 study found that mortality actually decreased across almost all ages during the Depression. Researchers last year also found that mortality rates overall declined from 2005 to 2010, a period that covered the deep recession that ran from late 2007 through mid-2009.
In comparison, projections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that deaths from the coronavirus in the United States could range from 200,000 to 1.7 million.
In your own fucking comment you admitted suicide rates went up, so you did not debunk anything!

Traffic accidents back then in the 1930's would have decreased seeing people could not afford to drive!

Fact is crime will rise, starvation will rise and did you notice that World War that Started during the Great Depression?

So Jesus fucking Christ you are fine with increase in suicide just as long as you kill our economy!
The FACT is that far more people will die from this virus than a recession or depression.
Not sure you know meaning of the ford "fact".
So link to the deaths attributed to the Depression and the Recession.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
You don't seem to care if anyone goes bankrupt and can no longer afford a roof over their heads or food on the table.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
You don't seem to care if anyone goes bankrupt and can no longer afford a roof over their heads or food on the table.
Of course I do...I just care more that they are alive to worry about it.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
You don't seem to care if anyone goes bankrupt and can no longer afford a roof over their heads or food on the table.
Of course I do...I just care more that they are alive to worry about it.
Horseshit. You would send this economy into a Great Depression and watch thousands of people starve if that would help you defeat Trump.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.



trump and you followers of trump should have thought about that back in January when trump was warned about this but did nothing. Actually he did worse than nothing, he denied it was even happening, called it all a hoax, vilified anyone who tried to tell the truth and even told people that they could go to work if they have the virus.

Now you're crying over the consequences of trump's very bad choices and irresponsibility.

No the answer isn't to expose everyone to this. It will kill more people and make our medical system even more damaged,

What is wrong with you people? You deny it was even happening. Now that you're inconvenienced by it all you make stupid statements just so you can have your instant gratification.

Grow up, take responsibility for your actions. Act like an adult. If you didn't want this to happen you should have listened to the people you vilified for 2 months when we tried to warn you.
You say we should just get over with it. Returning the country to normalcy and just letting the virus run it's course means getting the immunity level of the population to 60% to 80%. Without a vaccine, that could mean over 50 million cases and hundreds of thousands of deaths.


Get over what?

No I don't advocate that we allow the population to get it. Thousands of innocent people will die needlessly. In fact, today the first infant died of it.

What makes you think I advocate people get over something?
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.



trump and you followers of trump should have thought about that back in January when trump was warned about this but did nothing. Actually he did worse than nothing, he denied it was even happening, called it all a hoax, vilified anyone who tried to tell the truth and even told people that they could go to work if they have the virus.

Now you're crying over the consequences of trump's very bad choices and irresponsibility.

No the answer isn't to expose everyone to this. It will kill more people and make our medical system even more damaged,

What is wrong with you people? You deny it was even happening. Now that you're inconvenienced by it all you make stupid statements just so you can have your instant gratification.

Grow up, take responsibility for your actions. Act like an adult. If you didn't want this to happen you should have listened to the people you vilified for 2 months when we tried to warn you.
You say we should just get over with it. Returning the country to normalcy and just letting the virus run it's course means getting the immunity level of the population to 60% to 80%. Without a vaccine, that could mean over 50 million cases and hundreds of thousands of deaths.


Get over what?

No I don't advocate that we allow the population to get it. Thousands of innocent people will die needlessly. In fact, today the first infant died of it.

What makes you think I advocate people get over something?

the number of healthy people of all ages who have died from this is tiny. Virtually all deaths attributed to the virus have been people with other serious health conditions. According to the CDC, 80% of people who get it will have minor or no symptoms and 98% will survive.

Its not the end of the world. but you want to destroy our great economy because of it. Sorry, but thats just dumb
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to appease your god?

I'm not too concerned about yours.
Well, thats what makes me a liberal and you a Trump sucking psychophant. I DO care about yours even when you apparently don't.
Could you not?
No. I will continue to care about others, even you and your family. I sincerely hope you are staying safe, maintaining safe distances, staying home and washing your hands frequently.

Wash your hands like you just got done cutting jalapenos and are about to take your contacts out!
You don't seem to care if anyone goes bankrupt and can no longer afford a roof over their heads or food on the table.
Of course I do...I just care more that they are alive to worry about it.
Horseshit. You would send this economy into a Great Depression and watch thousands of people starve if that would help you defeat Trump.
You are projecting. I don't give a shit about Trump. I would happily give him four more years if not another American had to die of this virus. You, on the other hand, are more than willing to sacrifice thousands of lives because you know the economy was all he had.
 

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---When stores and stadiums are empty and our cities look like ghost towns, consumer spending—the lifeblood of the economy—will lessen by hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars. The implosion in spending will lead to millions of fewer jobs, to even less spending—a downward spiral with no obvious end in sight.---

Just do what our moms did when one kid had chicken pox, expose it to everyone and get it over with. We can't afford to let Democrats ruin our economy.



trump and you followers of trump should have thought about that back in January when trump was warned about this but did nothing. Actually he did worse than nothing, he denied it was even happening, called it all a hoax, vilified anyone who tried to tell the truth and even told people that they could go to work if they have the virus.

Now you're crying over the consequences of trump's very bad choices and irresponsibility.

No the answer isn't to expose everyone to this. It will kill more people and make our medical system even more damaged,

What is wrong with you people? You deny it was even happening. Now that you're inconvenienced by it all you make stupid statements just so you can have your instant gratification.

Grow up, take responsibility for your actions. Act like an adult. If you didn't want this to happen you should have listened to the people you vilified for 2 months when we tried to warn you.
You say we should just get over with it. Returning the country to normalcy and just letting the virus run it's course means getting the immunity level of the population to 60% to 80%. Without a vaccine, that could mean over 50 million cases and hundreds of thousands of deaths.


Get over what?

No I don't advocate that we allow the population to get it. Thousands of innocent people will die needlessly. In fact, today the first infant died of it.

What makes you think I advocate people get over something?

the number of healthy people of all ages who have died from this is tiny. Virtually all deaths attributed to the virus have been people with other serious health conditions. According to the CDC, 80% of people who get it will have minor or no symptoms and 98% will survive.

Its not the end of the world. but you want to destroy our great economy because of it. Sorry, but thats just dumb
That is one twisted, fucked up "argument" you have. " Most people who die from COVID are old or have an underlying condition so screw 'em ".

Do you know anyone with asthma, fish? That's an "underlying condition" that makes someone more prone to DYING from this disease . You're okay to let them die just so Trump can tout a "great economy"? You don't have any loved ones over 60?

Letting thousands of Americans die for an economy that WILL recover isn't just dumb, it's unconscionable.
 

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It didn't take long for you to adopt the new Trump narrative. Which is basically, "We can't jeopardize my re-election for the sake of thousands of lives."
It didn't take liberals long to decide they'd welcome an economic depression with open arms if it helped them in the election.
You didn't answer the question.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to the virus?
I have to work or you all starve...so probably me. I'm not asking you to take any more risk than I am already. You're a veteran...you know sacrefices sometimes must be made for the greater good. It isn't "for Trump" ... It's for our children and grandchildren. IMO a depression is going to be SO much worse than the current pandemic that so few are taking seriously. I'm at Walmart right now sitting in my truck watching the employees on break stand in a circle 3 feet apart smoking and joking. It isn't UNTIL people start dying that folks will take this seriously...again IMO.


Churchill was right...Americans can be always be depended to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other options.
 

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It didn't take long for you to adopt the new Trump narrative. Which is basically, "We can't jeopardize my re-election for the sake of thousands of lives."
It didn't take liberals long to decide they'd welcome an economic depression with open arms if it helped them in the election.
You didn't answer the question.

How many lives are you personally willing to sacrifice for Trump? Give us a hard number. Which of your relatives or loved ones will you give over to the virus?
I have to work or you all starve...so probably me. I'm not asking you to take any more risk than I am already. You're a veteran...you know sacrefices sometimes must be made for the greater good. It isn't "for Trump" ... It's for our children and grandchildren. IMO a depression is going to be SO much worse than the current pandemic that so few are taking seriously. I'm at Walmart right now sitting in my truck watching the employees on break stand in a circle 3 feet apart smoking and joking. It isn't UNTIL people start dying that folks will take this seriously...again IMO.


Churchill was right...Americans can be always be depended to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other options.
How? How will a Depression be "so much worse"? Fewer people die during a Depression than when there is a booming economy so tell me how a Depression or a recession (that the economy WILL recover from) be worse than hundreds of thousands of dead Americans?
 

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