Origin of Lampasse

[WinterBorn]

Villains exist

Yes, they do. But not all villains deserve death.

You are always harping on about scams and about slaves. And yet your worship of the "true warrior" is responsible for both. The scam that a "true warrior" must have no other job or place in the tribe is a scam. And the "true warrior" is fed, clothed, housed and taken care of by the tribe. Which makes them his slave.

You keep your warriors who are perpetually at war. They create wars to keep their place in the world. I'll take the citizen warrior, who fights when it is needed, and then goes back to being a member of the society when it is not needed.

 

[WinterBorn]

Funny that you post a caricature of the wolf. Their social structure is one of war when needed and caring for the pack when it is not. The pack is often nomadic. But the pace of movement is set by the slowest. The alpha female controls the pack, along with the alpha male. They all care for the youngest and the oldest.

 

[rupol2000]

Yes, they do. But not all villains deserve death.

You are always harping on about scams and about slaves. And yet your worship of the "true warrior" is responsible for both. The scam that a "true warrior" must have no other job or place in the tribe is a scam. And the "true warrior" is fed, clothed, housed and taken care of by the tribe. Which makes them his slave.

You keep your warriors who are perpetually at war. They create wars to keep their place in the world. I'll take the citizen warrior, who fights when it is needed, and then goes back to being a member of the society when it is not needed.

Lies. A warrior may work for food and armor, or may live off taxes, it doesn't matter.

A villain does not deserve death if his villainy is the fruit of delusion. Then he can find the right path if he is forgiven.

 

[rupol2000]

Funny that you post a caricature of the wolf. Their social structure is one of war when needed and caring for the pack when it is not. The pack is often nomadic. But the pace of movement is set by the slowest. The alpha female controls the pack, along with the alpha male. They all care for the youngest and the oldest.

This is a slave pack of villains, like dogs and jackals.

 

[WinterBorn]

This is a slave pack of villains, like dogs and jackals.

No, this is a social order that is good for all members of the pack.

 

[BlackSand]

These are 2 very reliable matches. Nowhere else is such extreme self-torture known.

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Everywhere from European monks to segments of the Asian society self-tortured to extreme degrees.

Stop making shit up to fail yet again in proving a point that is meaningless and useless in the first place.
It doesn't matter if you want to believe something, you cannot make it true.

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[BlackSand]

Self-torture in such a pure form was only among Shaivists and Sioux.

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Self-torture, the reasoning behind it, and any association with a culture that adopts it in any form, are in no way exclusive to Shaivists and the Sioux.

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[BlackSand]

Your obvious worship of what you think a warrior is, is hilarious. Pure mythology.

And as long as you can convince others that there is a villain, you will be allowed to kill and others will take care of your every need.

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His admiration and near worship of warriors and the warrior class ...
Are based in his misogynistic views and the lies people tell themselves about honor and glory in combat, so they can live with the deeds they have done.

If he was a warrior ... He would know that.

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[WinterBorn]

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His admiration and near worship of warriors and the warrior class ...
Are based in his misogynistic views and the lies people tell themselves about honor and glory in combat, so they can live with the deeds they have done.

If he was a warrior ... He would know that.

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Anyone who talks about the "glory of war" has not actually been on the front lines of a war.

And his continued claims that war is romantic shows the same. He wants a woman to be threatened so he came swoop in and rescue her. She will be so grateful she will finally give him what he desires. A woman touching his peepee.

 

[BlackSand]

Anyone who talks about the "glory of war" has not actually been on the front lines of a war.

And his continued claims that war is romantic shows the same. He wants a woman to be threatened so he came swoop in and rescue her. She will be so grateful she will finally give him what he desires. A woman touching his peepee.

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In combat ... There are times when Bravery and Valor can be virtuous,
but they are about personal risk and sacrifice in the moment ... Not public perception or recognition.

Glory and Honor are completely different in origin and purpose.

Glory espouses some respect to the Victor, based on Victory and Might.
Honor in combat ... Like I mentioned ... Is mostly the lie the Warrior and Society tells themselves.

Honor only affects combat ... When someone chooses not to engage the enemy for Honorable reasons,
and ignores the basic raw instinct to continue to the fight for survival.

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[WinterBorn]

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Self-torture, the reasoning behind it, and any association with a culture that adopts it in any form, are in no way exclusive to Shaivists and the Sioux.

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I read about a practice of the aborigines in Australia. When the boys reached the age to become men, they had a very strange practice.

from: 10 Gruesome Acts Of Self-Torture That Will Horrify You - Listverse
"For some Aboriginal children, becoming an adult in the eyes of tribal society involves painful rituals in which the genitals are modified. Typically, this is limited to circumcision or cuts to the clitoris at the onset of puberty. Other times, a sharp stone tool is used to split open the underside of the penis.

In one of the worst examples, “a boy being initiated was expected to repeatedly hit his penis with a heavy rock until it was bruised and bloody.” According to this source, his incisors were also to be knocked out of his mouth while his elders exchanged ancient religious secrets with him in return."

Now the Sioux had some serious physical torture they practiced on themselves. But to take a rock and pound your own penis until it was bruised and bloody may be the worst thing I have heard.

 

[rupol2000]

Anyone who talks about the "glory of war" has not actually been on the front lines of a war.

The front lines are built from slaves. Warriors do not line up.

 

[WinterBorn]

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In combat ... There are times when Bravery and Valor can be virtuous,
but they are about personal risk and sacrifice in the moment ... Not public perception or recognition.

Glory and Honor are completely different in origin and purpose.

Glory espouses some respect to the Victor, based on Victory and Might.
Honor in combat ... Like I mentioned ... Is mostly the lie the Warrior and Society tells themselves.

Honor only affects combat ... When someone chooses not to engage the enemy for Honorable reasons,
and ignores the basic raw instinct to continue to the fight for survival.

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The best examples I know of, to show Honor on the battlefield would be the ethical treatment of prisoners and risking your own life to save one of your buddies.

Bravery is about being scared shitless and still moving forward. Valor is about the same.

There is a reason so many veterans have a haunted look when they talk about their experiences. And the "thousand-yard stare" speaks volumes about the actual effects of war.

 

[WinterBorn]

The front lines are built from slaves. Warriors do not line up.

When someone talks about the "front line" in a war, they are not talking about actually forming a line. They are talking about where the fighting is happening. It is meant to be a description of the actual warfare, and not sitting at some camp in the rear with the high ranking officers.

 

[rupol2000]

The best examples I know of, to show Honor on the battlefield would be the ethical treatment of prisoners and risking your own life to save one of your buddies.

Bravery is about being scared shitless and still moving forward. Valor is about the same.

There is a reason so many veterans have a haunted look when they talk about their experiences. And the "thousand-yard stare" speaks volumes about the actual effects of war.

Because you inherited bad blood from dogs. They are cowardly but continue to bark, trying to scare, until they get a kick in the snout.

 

[rupol2000]

When someone talks about the "front line" in a war, they are not talking about actually forming a line

It is a subconscious slave mentality emerges. Their ancestors were always built as slaves, so they think that a warrior is a combat soldier-slave who is driven to war.

 

[BlackSand]

There is a reason so many veterans have a haunted look when they talk about their experiences. And the "thousand-yard stare" speaks volumes about the actual effects of war.

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Everyone in every walk of life has certain moments that are seared into their memory to a certain extent.

With a veteran, those moments are burned in deep, and you can almost smell it.
A veteran seems to go "elsewhere", and gets the "stare" ... Because their mind is playing the movie, in vivid color, sound ... Well, everything.

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[WinterBorn]

Because you inherited bad blood from dogs. They are cowardly but continue to bark, trying to scare, until they get a kick in the snout.

You are clueless about what happens in actual war. I could give you examples of dogs exhibiting more bravery and valor than you will ever possess. But you would still call them "stinky cowards", if for no other reason than to save face.

The stories I was told by actual combat veterans were horrible. But the look on their face as they told them was just as horrific. But still they moved forward.

 

[WinterBorn]

It is a subconscious slave mentality emerges. Their ancestors were always built as slaves, so they think that a warrior is a combat soldier-slave who is driven to war.

Absolute nonsense.

 

[rupol2000]

You are clueless about what happens in actual war. I could give you examples of dogs exhibiting more bravery and valor than you will ever possess. But you would still call them "stinky cowards", if for no other reason than to save face.

The stories I was told by actual combat veterans were horrible. But the look on their face as they told them was just as horrific. But still they moved forward.

This is not a noble war. There are exhausted and tired soldiers who are treated like cattle. Such soldiers do not have the spirit of a warrior. They do not even have the strength for a swift attack, they do not have the fighting qualities for complex tactics. For them, it's just hard work.

Apaches were not like that.