Were the British colonists slaves?

[rupol2000]

I did not find any clear information about this. But the usual policy of agricultural colonization was to settle slaves in new territories, as was the case, for example, in Rome during the imperialist period. These slaves were called colons, hence the word "colonization" itself.

The first settlers were under some kind of Christian community. As a rule, communal peasants were slaves.

 

[WinterBorn]

I did not find any clear information about this. But the usual policy of agricultural colonization was to settle slaves in new territories, as was the case, for example, in Rome during the imperialist period. These slaves were called colons, hence the word "colonization" itself.

The first settlers were under some kind of Christian community. As a rule, communal peasants were slaves.

No, they were not slaves. The crops they grew were theirs. Or in the case of community farms, they belonged to everyone.

And the colonists could move if they wanted. They could marry who they chose. All of which points to the fact they were not slaves.

 

[rupol2000]

No, they were not slaves. The crops they grew were theirs. Or in the case of community farms, they belonged to everyone.

And the colonists could move if they wanted. They could marry who they chose. All of which points to the fact they were not slaves.

It is not known how free they were in movement. And they had nowhere to go.

The community members, as a rule, were slaves or dependent peasants. The abolition of slavery in Europe was the end of the communities, and the slave collective farms of the communists were the revival of the communities.

 

[rupol2000]

They could marry who they chose

This was not forbidden to slaves, at least not always.

 

[WinterBorn]

It is not known how free they were in movement. And they had nowhere to go.

The community members, as a rule, were slaves or dependent peasants. The abolition of slavery in Europe was the end of the communities, and the slave collective farms of the communists were the revival of the communities.

It is known that some went hunting and trapping. So their freedom of movement was, at least, local. And there was movement between the various colonies.

 

[WinterBorn]

This was not forbidden to slaves, at least not always.

Slave owners chose who a slave would marry. Effectively breeding for better slaves.

 

[rupol2000]

It is known that some went hunting and trapping. So their freedom of movement was, at least, local. And there was movement between the various colonies.

Proves nothing. Serfs in Russia have always done this.

 

[rupol2000]

Slave owners chose who a slave would marry. Effectively breeding for better slaves.

There was no positive selection. Slave owners did not need "quality" slaves, they are dangerous. That is why they promoted the cult of foolishness.

That's bullshit. Serfs usually married voluntarily. Some of them did not marry, no one forced them, although they stimulated the birth rate in general.

 

[WinterBorn]

Proves nothing. Serfs in Russia have always done this.

Serfs did not relocate to another place.

 

[WinterBorn]

There was no positive selection. Slave owners did not need "quality" slaves, they are dangerous. That is why they promoted the cult of foolishness.

That's bullshit. Serfs usually married voluntarily. Some of them did not marry, no one forced them, although they stimulated the birth rate in general.

You are talking about serfs in Russia to justify your claims about the colonists.

BTW, the colonists voluntarily moved to the New World. Of course, there were some who came here by way of indentured servitude. But once their debt was paid they were free.

 

[rupol2000]

Serfs did not relocate to another place.

Bullshit. They could do it at any time, they were traded like cattle, they were sent to build ships, and in the end, the main point of expanding the agricultural empire was precisely in settling slaves in new places. You are a complete idiot.

 

[rupol2000]

You are talking about serfs in Russia

No difference. The same communities were in Germany. They must have been in the UK. The colonization of the British colonies was precisely agricultural.

 

[WinterBorn]

Bullshit. They could do it at any time, they were traded like cattle, they were sent to build ships, and in the end, the main point of expanding the agricultural empire was precisely in settling slaves in new places. You are a complete idiot.

You ignore the fact that the colonists that relocated to another colony were not sent there. They did it of their own free will.

Yes, there were slaves in the New World. But your claim that the colonists were slaves is ridiculous.

 

[WinterBorn]

Your only evidence the colonists were slaves is the fact that many agricultural cultures had slaves. Nothing more. No records. Nothing written to make the claim. Nothing.

I am not going to argue your fantasies.

 

[The Duke]

Your only evidence the colonists were slaves is the fact that many agricultural cultures had slaves. Nothing more. No records. Nothing written to make the claim. Nothing.

I am not going to argue your fantasies.

Almost all Native American Indian tribes kept slaves.

 

[rupol2000]

You ignore the fact that the colonists that relocated to another colony were not sent there. They did it of their own free will.

It's unknown and it's unlikely
In any case, the community is a sure sign of slavery.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Rupol is the blind man trying to draw a picture of an elephant by feeling around. He learns a smattering of this and that, then fills it in by imagination. The imagining of an aristocratic Apache tells you where his flights of fancy go.

Why not give a serious study of history and stop making it up as you go along?

 

[WinterBorn]

It's unknown and it's unlikely
In any case, the community is a sure sign of slavery.

Community is a sure sign of slavery? lol So we should all be recluses and ignore anyone's needs but our own? You are a child.

 

[rupol2000]

Community is a sure sign of slavery?

Yes. slaves have always lived in communities

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes. slaves have always lived in communities

And because of that, you claim all communities are slaves? Lol

So only hermits and recluse are not slaves?