Opinion: Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump

[lantern2814]

It's fake:

Here is 3 people that all have the same height and weight listed...which one is not like the other..

Who ******* cares? Only Trump hating turds like you give a damn about his weight. He's doing better than most Americans his age.

Thank you for admitting you were full of shit.

And the only reason I posted the pics I did was because your fellow Trump worshiper posted the picture of him as Rocky...because that is how you people view him.

And you immediately got triggered by a picture of Trump and started ranting and raving as usual. Trump knows just how to push your buttons. Living in your head rent free for another 5 years.

Was not triggered at all, just love making fun of you Trump worshipers.

Thus you are triggered as you have to jump in and whine anytime Trump is mentioned. By the way that sound you hear is us laughing at your pathetic attempt at spin.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thus you are triggered as you have to jump in and whine anytime Trump is mentioned. By the way that sound you hear is us laughing at your pathetic attempt at spin.

Why would I care if someone that worships another human being is laughing at me?

All you Trump worshipers think people care what you think. It must be part of the mindset of being a worshiper.

 

[berg80]

Revisiting Criminal Obstruction of Justice in the Impeachment Inquiry
Revisiting Criminal Obstruction of Justice in the Impeachment Inquiry

There is no legal rationale for obstructing the inquiry. Full stop.

 

[White 6]

Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump.

this paragraph stuck out:
Every fact in the Democrats’ case has been contested—starting with whether or not Trump demanded a quid pro quo from Ukraine. But the most obvious example of Democrats presuming, not proving, the necessary facts is their complete failure to demonstrate Trump had “corrupt” intent. Democrats assert—without evidence—that President Trump’s motivation in seeking investigations of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and Burisma was his own personal political interests.
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and it's 100% true. the left dove on this like a duck on a junebug and *assumed* it was because it was for trumps own political gain. yet none of that has been proven.

just "assumed".

if he is truly looking into corruption and the activities of the left 2 things would happen:
1. he would make that phone call
2. the left, if corrupt, would go apeshit to discredit anything he was doing.

looks like both happened.

as the left loves to tell trump, if you've nothing to hide, let it all out for us to see. yet, where are they when it comes to looking into what THEY have done over the last decade? throwing up FAKE NEWS, just ignoring you, accusing the right of what they are being looked into doing and so forth.

if the left has done nothing wrong, what's wrong with trump having the complaints from the ukraine looked into? i mean, they didn't do it so nothing would be found, right? a lot like the mueller reports...

yet, here we are. no laws have been broken and there is zero proof trump did it for political gain vs. following up and doing his job.

it's also funny to me that somehow during all this IMPEACH 45 activity for the phone call, obstruction in 2016 is coming up as a top reason for said impeachment. like a streaker at halftime this came out of nowhere to take center stage.

Schiff exonerated President trump? In your dreams! I am pretty sure he chairman of the committee that investigated heard testimony and sent the impeachment issues to Judiciary committee for narrowing down the actual charges to those he thought most easily proved.

 

[BlindBoo]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

Oh so you're convinced he did something, you're just on the fence as to his motive for having a foreign country very publicly announce an investigation into two specific political enemies of his? Why didn't he just ask his AG to make an announcement like that?

 

[BlindBoo]

Yeah sure, Trumpybear didn't specifically tell anyone that has testified so far that he planned to use the phony headlines he was creating against Joe and the Democrat so I guess his coercion, bribery, blackmail or extortion plot was just for fun and he should continue to lead the Country.

Or not.

Dims are the ones who are engaging in coercion, bribery, blackmail and extortion

I'm rubber you'r.......

 

[iceberg]

Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump.

this paragraph stuck out:
Every fact in the Democrats’ case has been contested—starting with whether or not Trump demanded a quid pro quo from Ukraine. But the most obvious example of Democrats presuming, not proving, the necessary facts is their complete failure to demonstrate Trump had “corrupt” intent. Democrats assert—without evidence—that President Trump’s motivation in seeking investigations of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and Burisma was his own personal political interests.
----
and it's 100% true. the left dove on this like a duck on a junebug and *assumed* it was because it was for trumps own political gain. yet none of that has been proven.

just "assumed".

if he is truly looking into corruption and the activities of the left 2 things would happen:
1. he would make that phone call
2. the left, if corrupt, would go apeshit to discredit anything he was doing.

looks like both happened.

as the left loves to tell trump, if you've nothing to hide, let it all out for us to see. yet, where are they when it comes to looking into what THEY have done over the last decade? throwing up FAKE NEWS, just ignoring you, accusing the right of what they are being looked into doing and so forth.

if the left has done nothing wrong, what's wrong with trump having the complaints from the ukraine looked into? i mean, they didn't do it so nothing would be found, right? a lot like the mueller reports...

yet, here we are. no laws have been broken and there is zero proof trump did it for political gain vs. following up and doing his job.

it's also funny to me that somehow during all this IMPEACH 45 activity for the phone call, obstruction in 2016 is coming up as a top reason for said impeachment. like a streaker at halftime this came out of nowhere to take center stage.

Schiff exonerated President trump? In your dreams! I am pretty sure he chairman of the committee that investigated heard testimony and sent the impeachment issues to Judiciary committee for narrowing down the actual charges to those he thought most easily proved.

And exactly what are those and how will they prove his intent?

Put emotions dow.

 

[dudmuck]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

from Sondland testimony:
Holmes overheard Sondland talking on the phone with Trump, who asked if Zelensky would pursue the investigations he wanted. After the call, Holmes asked Sondland, “Does the President give a shit about Ukraine?” As Holmes testified, the answer was no, he only cares about “the big stuff.” Well, Holmes pointed out, there is big stuff happening in Ukraine, like a war with Russia, but Sondland said no, that was not what he meant. Trump only cared about matters that concerned him, like the investigations.

 

[dudmuck]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

What is worse, is that The President never received any benefit after this phone call. Zelinsky got everything he asked for without doing anything for The United States or The President for that matter even though The President was asking Zelinsky do something for "US" as in The U.S. to ensure that Foreign Aid was not going to be used for corrupt purposes as is his Duty to ensure that.

Trump ignored corruption talking points with Zelensky.

The aid the US was giving them is for defending against Russian aggression.

 

[White 6]

Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump.

this paragraph stuck out:
Every fact in the Democrats’ case has been contested—starting with whether or not Trump demanded a quid pro quo from Ukraine. But the most obvious example of Democrats presuming, not proving, the necessary facts is their complete failure to demonstrate Trump had “corrupt” intent. Democrats assert—without evidence—that President Trump’s motivation in seeking investigations of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and Burisma was his own personal political interests.
----
and it's 100% true. the left dove on this like a duck on a junebug and *assumed* it was because it was for trumps own political gain. yet none of that has been proven.

just "assumed".

if he is truly looking into corruption and the activities of the left 2 things would happen:
1. he would make that phone call
2. the left, if corrupt, would go apeshit to discredit anything he was doing.

looks like both happened.

as the left loves to tell trump, if you've nothing to hide, let it all out for us to see. yet, where are they when it comes to looking into what THEY have done over the last decade? throwing up FAKE NEWS, just ignoring you, accusing the right of what they are being looked into doing and so forth.

if the left has done nothing wrong, what's wrong with trump having the complaints from the ukraine looked into? i mean, they didn't do it so nothing would be found, right? a lot like the mueller reports...

yet, here we are. no laws have been broken and there is zero proof trump did it for political gain vs. following up and doing his job.

it's also funny to me that somehow during all this IMPEACH 45 activity for the phone call, obstruction in 2016 is coming up as a top reason for said impeachment. like a streaker at halftime this came out of nowhere to take center stage.

Schiff exonerated President trump? In your dreams! I am pretty sure he chairman of the committee that investigated heard testimony and sent the impeachment issues to Judiciary committee for narrowing down the actual charges to those he thought most easily proved.

And exactly what are those and how will they prove his intent?

Put emotions dow.

Not an emotional response. Just evaluating the validity of the premise that Schiff exonerated the President. My unemotional opinion is that Schiff would not have sent it to Judicial for consideration if he thought the president was exonerated by the testimony before committee.

 

[iceberg]

Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump.

this paragraph stuck out:
Every fact in the Democrats’ case has been contested—starting with whether or not Trump demanded a quid pro quo from Ukraine. But the most obvious example of Democrats presuming, not proving, the necessary facts is their complete failure to demonstrate Trump had “corrupt” intent. Democrats assert—without evidence—that President Trump’s motivation in seeking investigations of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and Burisma was his own personal political interests.
----
and it's 100% true. the left dove on this like a duck on a junebug and *assumed* it was because it was for trumps own political gain. yet none of that has been proven.

just "assumed".

if he is truly looking into corruption and the activities of the left 2 things would happen:
1. he would make that phone call
2. the left, if corrupt, would go apeshit to discredit anything he was doing.

looks like both happened.

as the left loves to tell trump, if you've nothing to hide, let it all out for us to see. yet, where are they when it comes to looking into what THEY have done over the last decade? throwing up FAKE NEWS, just ignoring you, accusing the right of what they are being looked into doing and so forth.

if the left has done nothing wrong, what's wrong with trump having the complaints from the ukraine looked into? i mean, they didn't do it so nothing would be found, right? a lot like the mueller reports...

yet, here we are. no laws have been broken and there is zero proof trump did it for political gain vs. following up and doing his job.

it's also funny to me that somehow during all this IMPEACH 45 activity for the phone call, obstruction in 2016 is coming up as a top reason for said impeachment. like a streaker at halftime this came out of nowhere to take center stage.

Schiff exonerated President trump? In your dreams! I am pretty sure he chairman of the committee that investigated heard testimony and sent the impeachment issues to Judiciary committee for narrowing down the actual charges to those he thought most easily proved.

And exactly what are those and how will they prove his intent?

Put emotions dow.

Not an emotional response. Just evaluating the validity of the premise that Schiff exonerated the President. My unemotional opinion is that Schiff would not have sent it to Judicial for consideration if he thought the president was exonerated by the testimony before committee.

Yet when asked you can't name laws broken or real prove "issues".

I rest my case.

 

[Dragonlady]

Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump.

this paragraph stuck out:
Every fact in the Democrats’ case has been contested—starting with whether or not Trump demanded a quid pro quo from Ukraine. But the most obvious example of Democrats presuming, not proving, the necessary facts is their complete failure to demonstrate Trump had “corrupt” intent. Democrats assert—without evidence—that President Trump’s motivation in seeking investigations of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and Burisma was his own personal political interests.
----
and it's 100% true. the left dove on this like a duck on a junebug and *assumed* it was because it was for trumps own political gain. yet none of that has been proven.

just "assumed".

if he is truly looking into corruption and the activities of the left 2 things would happen:
1. he would make that phone call
2. the left, if corrupt, would go apeshit to discredit anything he was doing.

looks like both happened.

as the left loves to tell trump, if you've nothing to hide, let it all out for us to see. yet, where are they when it comes to looking into what THEY have done over the last decade? throwing up FAKE NEWS, just ignoring you, accusing the right of what they are being looked into doing and so forth.

if the left has done nothing wrong, what's wrong with trump having the complaints from the ukraine looked into? i mean, they didn't do it so nothing would be found, right? a lot like the mueller reports...

yet, here we are. no laws have been broken and there is zero proof trump did it for political gain vs. following up and doing his job.

it's also funny to me that somehow during all this IMPEACH 45 activity for the phone call, obstruction in 2016 is coming up as a top reason for said impeachment. like a streaker at halftime this came out of nowhere to take center stage.

So you found an unknown blogger to support your bogus opinions. Whoopee shit. Come back to us with any legitimate legal source that agrees with this partisan fool.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

What is worse, is that The President never received any benefit after this phone call. Zelinsky got everything he asked for without doing anything for The United States or The President for that matter even though The President was asking Zelinsky do something for "US" as in The U.S. to ensure that Foreign Aid was not going to be used for corrupt purposes as is his Duty to ensure that.

Well, to be fair, the left has a good point when they say that he only released the aid once he found out there was a whistleblower. Whether or not that was the case, one can say it does look suspicious.


This is why intent and motive are so important. I think the left has to show the intent in order to have a viable case, otherwise, it will be tough to prove a crime.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

I’m sure it’s just one big coincidence that Trump became suddenly supper concerned about corruption in Ukraine and that the extent of his concern extended only to Ukraine and some idiotic theory about the DNC server. And none of that has anything to do with the fact that Biden is running and the Democratic Party is the opposition. It’s just a total coincidence he only cares amount Ukrainian corruption with regard to political adversaries.

Is that what you want us to believe?

I dont want you to believe anything I say, but I also dont want you believe everything the left says either.

The first thing we need to set straight is the phone call, in which trump never asked for "dirt on biden". He asked about a possible dnc server being held by a ukrainian oligarch. Ukraine being a very corrupt country, likely susceptible to money deals to keep things hidden. If trump believed this was going on, at the time, then he could have had a legitimate reason for asking about it.

He also never asked for ukraine to investigate Biden, he asked ukraine to investigate why biden had the prosecutor fired, which is a specific request.

Trump never indicated he wanted this for himself. He said "us, because our country has been through a lot".

I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying, you have to show intent, because without it, you are trying to impeach a president for investigating what he thought was wrongdoing. Supposition should not be used to impeach a president, that should be done with concrete facts and clear understanding of intent.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yeah sure, Trumpybear didn't specifically tell anyone that has testified so far that he planned to use the phony headlines he was creating against Joe and the Democrat so I guess his coercion, bribery, blackmail or extortion plot was just for fun and he should continue to lead the Country.

Or not.

Do you believe that if the house says " I think this is the reason he did this, or I have a feeling this is the reason he did this, we should impeach him" is a viable reason to impeach? If so, oh my, I hate to see the future, because we can just start impeachments on every president for perceived wrongdoing.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

Oh so you're convinced he did something, you're just on the fence as to his motive for having a foreign country very publicly announce an investigation into two specific political enemies of his? Why didn't he just ask his AG to make an announcement like that?

I'm convinced he asked the president of ukraine to look into a dnc server and why biden had the prosecutor fired. That's all I know, and that's all anyone else knows also. The "personal gain" angle was started by left wing media based on their theories of why he did it. There was never any actual indication he was looking for help with the election. Left wing media inserted that supposition as part of their story to drive their agenda.

We dont know what was going through his mind at the time. For all we know, he could have genuinely believed that there was some foul play afoot, and he, knowing the country had just gone through a tough 2 years if investigation, wanted to find out if there was any link between all of it.

Personally, I have a theory that the ukraine oligarch who was alleged to be in possession of the server also has ties to burisma, which means trumps request for information on the dnc server, and why biden had the prosecutor fired who would potentially reopen the burisma investigation, those two requests are linked.

If trump actually had information that this was the case and believed it, it is very possible his request for help may have been for legitimate reasons.

Basically, I dont agree with people who would say "I suspect trump did this for personal gain" being the reason to try and remove a duly elected sitting president. You have to have more than that, you need some really concrete evidence of intent. But that's just my opinion.

 

[White 6]

Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Report Exonerates President Trump.

this paragraph stuck out:
Every fact in the Democrats’ case has been contested—starting with whether or not Trump demanded a quid pro quo from Ukraine. But the most obvious example of Democrats presuming, not proving, the necessary facts is their complete failure to demonstrate Trump had “corrupt” intent. Democrats assert—without evidence—that President Trump’s motivation in seeking investigations of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and Burisma was his own personal political interests.
----
and it's 100% true. the left dove on this like a duck on a junebug and *assumed* it was because it was for trumps own political gain. yet none of that has been proven.

just "assumed".

if he is truly looking into corruption and the activities of the left 2 things would happen:
1. he would make that phone call
2. the left, if corrupt, would go apeshit to discredit anything he was doing.

looks like both happened.

as the left loves to tell trump, if you've nothing to hide, let it all out for us to see. yet, where are they when it comes to looking into what THEY have done over the last decade? throwing up FAKE NEWS, just ignoring you, accusing the right of what they are being looked into doing and so forth.

if the left has done nothing wrong, what's wrong with trump having the complaints from the ukraine looked into? i mean, they didn't do it so nothing would be found, right? a lot like the mueller reports...

yet, here we are. no laws have been broken and there is zero proof trump did it for political gain vs. following up and doing his job.

it's also funny to me that somehow during all this IMPEACH 45 activity for the phone call, obstruction in 2016 is coming up as a top reason for said impeachment. like a streaker at halftime this came out of nowhere to take center stage.

Schiff exonerated President trump? In your dreams! I am pretty sure he chairman of the committee that investigated heard testimony and sent the impeachment issues to Judiciary committee for narrowing down the actual charges to those he thought most easily proved.

And exactly what are those and how will they prove his intent?

Put emotions dow.

Not an emotional response. Just evaluating the validity of the premise that Schiff exonerated the President. My unemotional opinion is that Schiff would not have sent it to Judicial for consideration if he thought the president was exonerated by the testimony before committee.

Yet when asked you can't name laws broken or real prove "issues".

I rest my case.

Your giving it a rest is a good thing. I doubt we will see any opinions pro or con from the USMB in future hearings. This is all going to work out. I may or may not be satisfied, but I can live with.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Next you'll be saying Trump never even made the call. Repubs are not factually contesting any of the evidence of Trump's guilt. They are simply claiming the sky is not blue.

There is no evidence of Trump's guilt, moron.

Its abuse of office.

Withholding aid for personal benefit, bribery.

Prove he did it for personal gain. That's what I want to see. I want to see evidence that he conspired with other people and actually wrote or spoke the words that he was doing it for his own gain. I want to see the evidence that is not opinion based, such as we've seen from all of these testimonies.

Without that, you only have speculation as to his motives.

from Sondland testimony:
Holmes overheard Sondland talking on the phone with Trump, who asked if Zelensky would pursue the investigations he wanted. After the call, Holmes asked Sondland, “Does the President give a shit about Ukraine?” As Holmes testified, the answer was no, he only cares about “the big stuff.” Well, Holmes pointed out, there is big stuff happening in Ukraine, like a war with Russia, but Sondland said no, that was not what he meant. Trump only cared about matters that concerned him, like the investigations.

Again, what we have here is sondland giving his opinion of what trump was thinking. Who knows what was going on in sondland mind at the time he said that. Maybe sondland was frustrated or angry with trump for some reason and he said that as a way to lash out.

Have to have something more solid than that. Perhaps something showing that trump had made some communications that indicated he was looking for a way to damage his opponents, or some kind of deal with someone where he says something to the effect of "if we can get this done, this will really help my campaign this year".

Show me something like that, and you have a winner..

 

[BlindBoo]

Yeah sure, Trumpybear didn't specifically tell anyone that has testified so far that he planned to use the phony headlines he was creating against Joe and the Democrat so I guess his coercion, bribery, blackmail or extortion plot was just for fun and he should continue to lead the Country.

Or not.

Do you believe that if the house says " I think this is the reason he did this, or I have a feeling this is the reason he did this, we should impeach him" is a viable reason to impeach? If so, oh my, I hate to see the future, because we can just start impeachments on every president for perceived wrongdoing.

After his phone call he wanted them to open an investigation into the Bidens. He said it himself. That's was political corruption clear as day.

 

[BlindBoo]

The "personal gain" angle was started by left wing media based on their theories of why he did it. There was never any actual indication he was looking for help with the election.

I think the changing of the specific words they dictated to the Ukraine President that he must include are documented in an e-mail chain. He was going to give a broad speech about fighting corruption but Trump insisted on including the specific mentioning of Biden and the DNC server/Crowdstrike as targets of the investigation.