Zone1 Only Tax Payers should be allowed to vote

[Monk-Eye]

" Easy Criticism Inviting Participation "

* Poorly Formed Inquiry *

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

Approximately 60% of illegal migrants have ein ( employee identification number ) and pay taxes on documented commercial transactions .

As it is , libertarians believe they should be able to import a bunch of foreign workers and be minimally responsible for their well being and possibly be required to return the foreign national to their country of origin , while declining any accountability for 18 years of social subsistence when a child is given jus soli us citizenship , so now why in hell should voting by the foreign workers be allowed , simply because they pay taxes ?

. Apportionment Of Congressional Seats From Census Contingent On Number Of Citizens .

* Short Sighted Economic Planning *

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

A first mistake taxpayers of a society make is in abdicating accountability for social welfare to the authoritarian aggression of a bureaucratic collective government .

Yet economic libertarians ( economic liberals ) deride a volition or accountability for social welfare and offload the responsibility onto taxpayers wherever possible .

Thus the economic liberal should not be allowed to manifest a surrogate class and decline accountability for it by depriving those individual citizens of representation .

. CDZ - Why Have Socialists Not Privatized The Socialist Ideals ? .

* Strump Cues Keynesian Economics For DoD Contracts And Not Paying Down National Debt *

. Public Private Trust .

. Why Find Waste To Decrease National Debt But Spend It Elsewhere Or On Tax Cuts ? .

 

[Concerned American]

Meanwhile you seem to not want to ask the question of whether the Boomers who account for $3+ trillion of the budget every year should be able to vote to extract more money for themselves through some mix of taxing current workers more and cutting future benefits for current workers. Feels questionable.

Payment on a loan that was taken by the treasury department to pay for the interest accrued can hardly be blamed on "boomers" Your congress took the loan in the form of treasury bonds. SS recipients PAID the premiums on their old age INSURANCE. It has been paid in full. Social giveaways--think STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS and money wasted supporting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are a much larger drain than SS and THEY DIDN'T PAY ANYTHING IN. So there is that. I suggest you educate yourself as to what is welfare and what is not.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yes. Can’t remember who said it (maybe Franklin - he always had the best sayings) but something to the effect of “as soon of the majority of the people can vote themselves money out of the U.S. Treasury, that’s the end of the Republic.”

People who are net takers - like those on welfare - should not be able to vote themselves more money.

All of the hourly employees should be able to vote Democratically in the company they work for to raise their pay from $12 an hour to $50 an hour… what could go wrong?

 

[Concerned American]

SS is no drain on the economy. It's been paid for. So no matter what pay the benefit to those that have paid in. Same for medicare. Pay up.

Maybe you should respond to the people who are calling it welfare. You just repeated my position.

 

[initforme]

Where is the drain from programs paid paid into?

 

[White 6]

It was an epic failure of Titanic proportions! It made all of the new shows. Google is your friend. Look it up!

Nah, you go ahead.

 

[Dragonlady]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

EVERYBODY pays taxes. Renters pay property taxes in their rent. People pay sales taxes, gas taxes, cigarette taxes, import tariffs. EVERYONE living or even visiting in the USA, are paying local, state and federal taxes in some form or another every time they buy something in a store, or eat in a restaurant, but only American citizens are allowed to vote.

If paying taxes entitles you to vote, according to your beliefs, EVERYBODY living in the USA should be allowed to vote.

 

[Dragonlady]

I guess you slept through Rachel the Mad Cow's getting a hold of one of Trump's old tax returns and do a full show on his return. She was embarrassed and laughed off the air when it showed he paid several million dollars in taxes that year. They never llooked at it before the show to see they had a nothing burger with extra cheese!

So many lies. Maddow did NOT "get hold of one of Trump's tax returns". She received 2 pages of his 2005 tax return which showed he paid $39 million in tax for that year. This makes me think that Trump might have leaked it himself, given that the rumours going around at the time were that Trump had paid no income taxes, and this is one of the rare years when Trump DID pay taxes.

Subsequent years' returns revealed that Trump did, in fact, pay very little, in anything in taxes, until 2023.

In 2023 Trump, as the media was focused on the Georgia Grand Jury indictment of Trump and his associates, Donald Trump quietly refiled his personal income taxes, millions of dollars of personal income, had flowed into his personal accounts from more than 200 off-shore entities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/13/donald-trump-financial-disclosure/

This refiling is interesting in light of Trump's theft of Top Secret documents from the White House in January of 2021. Because later in the year, we have this report from the CIA:

CIA sounds alarm over capture, killing of dozens of informants: report

The CIA has called on its frontline spies to step up their operational security around the world after dozens of informants have been arrested, killed or otherwise compromised in recent years.

nypost.com

Trump transferred $40 million from the Trump Corporation to pay those taxes, which is the ONLY reason that the public would every know about this at all. It came up in court filings by the financial oversight of the Trump Corporation's assets after Trump's conviction for fraud.

Trump financial watchdog informs judge of $40 million in undisclosed cash transfers

Barbara Jones, a retired federal judge who was appointed to monitor financial activity at the Trump Organization, said there have been some violations of court orders.

www.nbcnews.com

So let's connect the dots: Trump hadn't paid personal income taxes for years, and suddenly, after stealing boxes of TOP SECRET documents from the White House, while CIA agents all over the world are dying or being captured at alarming rates, millions of dollars start flowing into Trump's personal bank accounts from around the world, to the point that Trump has to refile his personal income taxes for this time period and pay $29 million in personal income taxes on the money received.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

If you're employed by the federal government, you shouldn't be voting

 

[Carl in Michigan]

What if you are a disabled adult and only worked for 10 years?



Stay at home Mom's - you are SOL.




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Service to the country is not the same as service to a bloated government

 

[Concerned American]

If you're employed by the federal government, you shouldn't be voting

The military is employed by the federal government.

 

[Dragonlady]

If you're employed by the federal government, you shouldn't be voting

Au contraire. Who knows better which government policies are working and which are not. THESE are people who believe in your nation so much, that they are giving BACK to the country by working for the civil service - regardless of which party is in office.

Here's a suggestion for you: Instead of trying to prevent people from voting for Democrats, why don't you come up with REAL policies Americans will vote for, instead of trying to stop them from voting.

When the ONLY way Republicans can get elected is to lie about what their policies will do, you need BETTER policies.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Fore Oh Won Ire Eh Commerce Market Wealth "

* Anecdote About Socialism Bent In Government For Civil Servant Pension Wage Volition *

Au contraire. Who knows better which government policies are working and which are not. THESE are people who believe in your nation so much, that they are giving BACK to the country by working for the civil service - regardless of which party is in office.

Are civil service volunteers compensated through private contributions , as government unions are largest of last vestiges in private sectors that are offering pensions ?

For a period of time , civil servants received a good pension in exchange for civil servant wages that were as expected for civil servants - more often lower than private sector wages , an exchange of volition as a civil servant ; however , eventually , it was also necessary to compensate civil servants at wages competitive with private sector staffing that also includes a good pension .

These days , depending on rank of municipal or bureaucratic office and duration , multiple pensions can be lucrative .

An american school of economics , focusing to advance independence of the individual - its citizens , would expect factions of its populace to be competent in completing advanced tasks , which most often requires extended education .

Does thine fur roar espouse independence of the individual , as a foundation of us republic , through personal volition of individual privateers asking not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country ?

A voluntary participation in civil service is an excellent opportunity for exposure to complex activities that could provide opportunities for internment and placement in roles for current demands , as private sector only seems concerned with shareholders , return on investment and optimized personnel rather than privatizing ideals of socialism .

. CDZ - Why Have Socialists Not Privatized The Socialist Ideals ? .

* Would Drag Goon Know *

Here's a suggestion for you: Instead of trying to prevent people from voting for Democrats, why don't you come up with REAL policies Americans will vote for, instead of trying to stop them from voting.

Please clarify members included as americans .

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* Us Republicanism Definitions In Light Of Castigation For Causes Pursued By Its Member Representatives *

When the ONLY way Republicans can get elected is to lie about what their policies will do, you need BETTER policies.

A us republican and us republicanism aspires to independence of the individual , through equal protection of negative liberties among individuals , whether an individual is a us citizen , a litigant , an incorporate , a state or a federate .

Negative liberties are protections , independence and individualism .

Positive liberties are endowments , dependence and collectivism .

. Public Private Trust .