Zone1 Only Tax Payers should be allowed to vote

[Concerned American]

What will that money do while it is waiting to be spent? Collect dust?

I swear some of you people lose IQ points by the minute on this forum!

Climb off your soap box and read the thread. I presented a hypothetical to counter the poster's claim:
Spending on retirees is the primary fiscal obligation of the government at present.
Please keep up with the thread. It will do wonders to keep you from looking like a pompous ass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Climb off your soap box and read the thread. I presented a hypothetical to counter the poster's claim:
Spending on retirees is the primary fiscal obligation of the government at present.
Please keep up with the thread. It will do wonders to keep you from looking like a pompous ass.

Couldn't answer the question, you pompous ass!

 

[Concerned American]

Couldn't answer the question, you pompous ass!

Answer you own stupid question, moron. A hypothetical doesn't require an answer. But since you insist, invest it in SAVINGS BONDS and let you and the idiot who I was talking to, pay the interest. SMFH, are you in the bottle or what?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Answer you own stupid question, moron. A hypothetical doesn't require an answer. But since you insist, invest it in SAVINGS BONDS and let you and the idiot who I was talking to, pay the interest. SMFH, are you in the bottle or what?

They are already invested in US Treasury bonds dumbass! WTF is the difference?

I am seriously concerned for your sanity. Your posts are meaningless word salads, lacking in any truth or logic. Are you Kamala Harris?

 

[mudwhistle]

No. I don't take orders from a nitwit who can't admit he fucked up.

I'm not going to admit to something we both know is bull shit.

So why don't you just cry about it you little baby.

 

[mudwhistle]

They are already invested in US Treasury bonds dumbass! WTF is the difference?

I am seriously concerned for your sanity. Your posts are meaningless word salads, lacking in any truth or logic. Are you Kamala Harris?

English must be your second language, Troll.

We'll try not to use big words like THE and ARE in the future.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm not going to admit to something we both know is bull shit.

So why don't you just cry about it you little baby.

I will just continue to ridicule your ignorance Suck it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

English must be your second language, Troll.

We'll try not to use big words like THE and ARE in the future.

I am the furthest thing from a troll you will find. I just enjoy fact checking your dumb ass!

 

[mudwhistle]

I will just continue to ridicule your ignorance Suck it!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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You can't keep from making immature responses. We get it!

 

[Greenbeard]

Take SS contributions out of the general fund and dedicate them solely to paying SS obligations and its amazing how the fiscal drain on the general fund is reduced. Taxes will go up a like amount, but the retiree drain will be gone.

I understand that raising taxes on people who are working would be appealing to those who are simply drawing the benefits, but I think the point of the OP is to question whether the beneficiaries should have an equal say with the benefactors in such decisions.

 

[mudwhistle]

You can't keep from making immature responses. We get it!

Every single post you've replied with has been nasty and immature.

I put you on ignore last year.....and now I figure you need to go back on it, because you're a nasty little sh*t that I don't need to waste time responding to.

So have a nice day.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Thats a bad idea. It rains on everyone.

 

[Lisa558]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Yes. Can’t remember who said it (maybe Franklin - he always had the best sayings) but something to the effect of “as soon of the majority of the people can vote themselves money out of the U.S. Treasury, that’s the end of the Republic.”

People who are net takers - like those on welfare - should not be able to vote themselves more money.

 

[Concerned American]

I understand that raising taxes on people who are working would be appealing to those who are simply drawing the benefits, but I think the point of the OP is to question whether the beneficiaries should have an equal say with the benefactors in such decisions.

You apparently don't understand the concept of paying taxes with a deferred benefit. We don't disagree on the fact that those on the dole shouldn't have a say. It seems our disagreement is on what constitutes the dole.

 

[Lisa558]

You apparently don't understand the concept of paying taxes with a deferred benefit. We don't disagree on the fact that those on the dole shouldn't have a say. It seems our disagreement is on what constitutes the dole.

Liberals try to draw a parallel between seniors on SS who have worked and paid into SS for 40 years and a baby momma who has never had a job, has four illegitimate kids with four different fathers, and who is taking food stamps, TANF, Medicaid, subsidized rent, and more.

It goes back to libs’ defending unsuccessful and irresponsible people while trying to make it as though they are every bit as admirable as seniors with a life-long history of paying into Medicare, SS, and federal income taxes.

It goes back to “equity”! Everyone is as good as everyone else.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Every single post you've replied with has been nasty and immature.

I put you on ignore last year.....and now I figure you need to go back on it, because you're a nasty little sh*t that I don't need to waste time responding to.

So have a nice day.

Feel free to put me on ignore! That doesn't stop me from pointing out when you post bullshit!

 

[Greenbeard]

You apparently don't understand the concept of paying taxes with a deferred benefit. We don't disagree on the fact that those on the dole shouldn't have a say. It seems our disagreement is on what constitutes the dole.

I haven't reached a conclusion, I think it's an interesting question. But ignoring who's actually in a position to vote themselves benefits would be unwise. TANF (the welfare successor program) has a budget of ~$16B. It literally rounds to zero percent of the federal budget. Less than one percent of the population receives it.

Meanwhile you seem to not want to ask the question of whether the Boomers who account for $3+ trillion of the budget every year should be able to vote to extract more money for themselves through some mix of taxing current workers more and cutting future benefits for current workers. Feels questionable.

 

[Lisa558]

I haven't reached a conclusion, I think it's an interesting question. But ignoring who's actually in a position to vote themselves benefits would be unwise. TANF (the welfare successor program) has a budget of ~$16B. It literally rounds to zero percent of the federal budget. Less than one percent of the population receives it.

Meanwhile you seem to not want to ask the question of whether the Boomers who account for $3+ trillion of the budget every year should be able to vote to extract more money for themselves through some mix of taxing current workers more and cutting future benefits for current workers. Feels questionable.

Fully 30% of all Americans receive some form of welfare, and it’s a pretty safe bet that very few pay federal income taxes. That’s an awfully big voting bloc to vote for more of other people’s money.

 

[initforme]

Take SS contributions out of the general fund and dedicate them solely to paying SS obligations and its amazing how the fiscal drain on the general fund is reduced. Taxes will go up a like amount, but the retiree drain will be gone.

SS is no drain on the economy. It's been paid for. So no matter what pay the benefit to those that have paid in. Same for medicare. Pay up.