Unkotare
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It's the only reason YOU are a citizen.
One Of Trump's Unconstitutional EOs Is Being Raked Over the Coals By SCOTUS Tomorrow
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Unkotare
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They aren't, because it doesn't work that way.
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Here is the Congressional Record: https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/jacob_howard_on_14th_amendment_1866.gif
The sponsor of the 14th amendment (Jacob Howard) made it crystal clear that birthright citizenship was for everyone, excluding the children of foreign ministers and ambassadors for obvious reasons.
"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States."
Trump can't do jack shit about it.
The sponsor of the 14th amendment (Jacob Howard) made it crystal clear that birthright citizenship was for everyone, excluding the children of foreign ministers and ambassadors for obvious reasons.
"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States."
Trump can't do jack shit about it.
Unkotare
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It's not birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants, it's citizenship for those born in the US (and therefore not illegal).
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No sane person believes you.
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Lame brains interrupt and talk out of turn constantly. It’s an attempt to throw fact based commentary off its baseHere is the deep Constitutional analysis the brainiacs at Fox News have been able to bring to bear thus far:
Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts reins in Sotomayor after repeated interruptions
Given a reading comprehension disability you probably won't read the arguments presented here. But they are quite interesting for those wanting information instead of just spewing assigned talking points garbage:You mean Fox News?
You clearly don't know what "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means.
Why do you think they had to carve out ambassadors?
EVERYONE on our soil is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States except those with diplomatic immunity.
Which, by the way, also means they have Fifth Amendment protections, vis a vis due process.
You're cracking me up.
UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK.
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"Believe" has got nothing to do with it. It is a fact.
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There were no illegals to consider back then so it remains as it is when written. For American citizens
My parents, their parents, their parents' parents were all American citizens. That is what should make me a citizen. Not the fact that I was born here.
There were conscious though that there could be invaders or those here for other reasons than to become Americans and they certainly did not intend that those should become citizens.
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Illegals would need some inkling of an affirmation from the authors that being “born here” qualifies those from distant lands as citizens. There is no such thing. They probably had a few remaining pirates to deal with and their babies did not become citizens. That would be stupid, the authors were not,
Is HAS worked that way up until now. The alien pregnant woman gets here before her child comes, she give birth in a U.S. hospital at taxpayer expense, and voila! She has a citizen anchor baby that cannot be deported. And because Americans won't be so heartless to send her home without the baby she gets to stay too. And then far too often she has been allowed to bring in her husband if she has one, parents, siblings, grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles. And if they can't support themselves the taxpayer does.
President Trump is doing what he can to remedy this situation. He should be aided and backed up by every honorable American.
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Additional word that you don't know the meaning of.
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There is no reference of every other class of persons from other countries being elegible and benefitted
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However you want to spin it, do you support citizenship for the offspring of people in the country illegally?
Yes, or no?
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