OMG, El Nino weather is here!!!

Little-Acorn

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Here in Sandy Eggo, this year every time some rain is in the forecast, the newsreaders are in a tizzy. "This is an El Nino driven storm, OMG, batten down the hatches, get read for disaster! El Nino is here!!!" - repeated over and over ad nauseum.

Apparently someone found that ocean temperatures were high than usual this summer. This, they say, is called "El Nino", and can cause more severe storms. Or so they tell us. So now they are screaming "El Nino!" every time it gets cloudy.

Well, where are the severe storms?

Have any of these people screaming that El Nino is driving all the storms this year, checked the actual rainfall?

Climate Los Angeles - California and Weather averages Los Angeles - Weather history august 2015

Rainy season starts in August around here. The rainy season isn't over yet, of course. But we can look at what we've gotten so far.

In San Diego, normal rainfall Aug-Feb is 7.99". So far from Aug 2015 thru Feb 2016, we've had 6.90".

For Los Angeles, the numbers are 15.29" normally, Aug-Feb. So far this season, they've had 6.04" from Aug to Feb.

We've had the same sporadic flooding, mudslides etc. that always happen ever year, with or without El Nino.

This is what El Nino produces? The hysterical newsreaders say so - this year's southern California storms are "El Nino driven!"

Sounds to me like El Nino doesn't do squat. Normal weather (or even a little drier) is what it gets us.

Are these the same people who scream Manmade Global Warming is making our weather worse... without a shred of proof that man had anything to do with it?
 
I'm from blizzard country and the land of 50 below zero . Nothing to be afraid of , I personally think that the goal is to make USA society more wusse like than they already are . Heck , nowadays I see kids staying home from school because of a few inches of snow on the roads . I see roads over mountains being shut down because of snow that 20 years ago we just drove over . Making wusses plus giving the cops and authorities a chance to be important . ------------ might be off topic so just my thoughts .
 
Strong El Nino predicted this year...

China braces for ‘severe’ flooding on Yangtze
Sun, Apr 03, 2016 - Three GORGES DAM: Predictions for a strong El Nino this year are likely to test the US$59 billion damming of the Yangtze River, designed to control the river’s water levels
Severe floods are expected on China’s Yangtze River this year due to a strong El Nino weather pattern, state media said, raising the risk of deaths and damage to property and crops along the country’s longest waterway. The El Nino conditions are the strongest since records collection began in 1951 and resemble a 1998 weather pattern that flooded the river and killed thousands, the official Xinhua news agency said on Friday, citing the Chinese Ministry of Water Resources’ vice minister Liu Ning. “Precipitation in the upper, middle and lower reaches of the river is forecast to be as much as 80 percent more than normal from May to August,” Xinhua said.

Some Yangtze tributaries had already begun flooding and the flood control and drought relief situation was “extremely severe,” Liu said, according to the news agency. Provinces and cities along the river needed to make contingency plans, Xinhua cited Hubei Province Governor Wang Guosheng as saying. China has frequently been devastated by natural disasters, particularly by floods and earthquakes that have claimed millions of lives over the centuries.

Flooding, an annual problem, has been exacerbated by urban sprawl and poor drainage infrastructure in many cities. Xinhua said 1,320 people died in the 1998 floods, though estimates vary and some put the death toll at more than 4,000. Floods could be a test of the water management capabilities of the controversial US$59 billion Three Gorges Dam, which was finished in 2012. Along with power generation and navigation, the dam was designed for controlling the Yangtze’s water levels.

The ongoing El Nino, a warming of sea-surface temperatures in the Pacific Ocean, has been linked to serious crop damage, forest fires and flash flood and drought around the world. Experts have warned that changing global climate leading to extreme weather is likely to have an impact on the world’s most important commodity crops — maize, soybean, wheat and rice. Most of the global production of these four crops comes from a small number of countries, such as China.

China braces for ‘severe’ flooding on Yangtze - Taipei Times
 
El Nino causin' heat wave in Malaysia shuts down schools...

Severe heatwave closes Malaysian schools
April 11, 2016 -- Steamy temperatures, brought on by the current El Nino, have closed hundreds of schools in the states of Perlis and Pahang.
With temperatures soaring above 98.6 Fahrenheit, authorities have closed 259 schools, affecting 97,533 students. The ministry also asked parents to monitor the movement and activities of children while not in school. The country's capital, Kuala Lumpur, usually only sees high temperatures around 90 degrees. Besides school closings, food production has slowed and water shortages throughout the region have been reported.

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Many parts of Asia have been affected by the El Nino dry spell. Vietnam has the worst drought in a century, and Thailand and the Philippines have seen reduced crop production. Malaysia might be in store for some relief. The nation's meteorological department predicts more showers and thunderstorms are forecast to cool down the area. Director-general Datuk Che Gayah said the country had already entered the inter-monsoon season with more rains and thunderstorms in the afternoon.

The world Meteorological Organization announced that temperatures in the first two months this year had soared to new highs. The organization warns that the "alarming" and "unprecedented" rate of climate change was "sending a powerful message to world leaders."

Severe heatwave closes Malaysian schools

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World Bank to shift focus to climate change
April 11, 2016 -- The World Bank announced Thursday it is making a "fundamental shift" away from financing efforts to ease global poverty, towards tackling climate change.
The group, which provides financial assistance to the developing world, said all future spending under its new Climate Change Action Plan would be respectful of the environment and specifically 28 percent of new investments will fund projects that fight climate change.

The Climate Change Action Plan spells out the organization's actions to help nations deliver on their commitments to the Paris climate conference -- or COP21-- agreements from December 2015 and puts forth ambitious goals in renewable energy, climate-friendly agriculture, green transportation and urban resilience in the developing world for 2020. "Following the Paris climate agreement, we must now take bold action to protect our planet for future generations," said Jim Yong Kim, World Bank Group president. "We are moving urgently to help countries make major transitions to increase sources of renewable energy, decrease high-carbon energy sources, develop green transport systems and build sustainable, livable cities for growing urban populations. Developing countries want our help to implement their national climate plans, and we'll do all we can to help them."

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John Roome, senior director for climate change at the World Bank, told reporters at a press conference: "This is a fundamental shift for the World Bank. We are putting climate change into our DNA. Climate change will drive 100 million more people into poverty in the next 15 years [unless action is taken]." The group has been criticized in the past for investing in not-so-eco-friendly projects, like coal power stations, but said it would do so in the future based on how great the need was while a country transitioned from high-carbon fuels to clean energy.

"Climate change is the defining issue of our time and cannot be tackled through isolated actions, one sector at a time," said Laura Tuck, Vice President for Sustainable Development at the World Bank Group. "The complexity of the challenge requires solutions that cut across many different sectors such as energy, water, agriculture, transport, urban planning, and disaster risk management. The World Bank is in a unique position to work with countries to develop the solutions that build their resilience to climate impacts, protect their people and environment, and reduce their emissions."

World Bank to shift focus to climate change
 
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Deadly El Nino in Peru...
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Abnormal El Nino in Peru unleashes deadly downpours; more flooding seen
Sunday 19th March, 2017: A sudden and abnormal warming of Pacific waters off Peru has unleashed the deadliest downpours in decades, with landslides and raging rivers sweeping away people, clogging highways and destroying crops in a potential sign of a global El Nino pattern this year.
At least 62 people have died and more than 70,000 have become homeless as Peru's rainy season has delivered 10 times as much rainfall than usual, authorities said Friday. About half of Peru has been declared in emergency to expedite resources to the hardest hit areas, mostly in the north where rainfall has broken records in several districts, said Prime Minister Fernando Zavala. Peru is bracing itself for another month of flooding. A local El Nino phenomenon, the warming of surface sea temperatures in the Pacific, will likely continue along Peru's northern coast at least through April, said Dimitri Gutierrez, a scientist with Peru's El Nino committee. Local El Ninos in Peru tend to be followed by the global El Nino phenomenon, which can trigger flooding and droughts in different countries, said Gutierrez.

The U.S. weather agency has put the chances of an El Nino developing in the second half of 2017 at 50-55 percent. While precipitation in Peru has not exceeded the powerful El Nino of 1998, more rain is falling in shorter periods of time - rapidly filling streets and rivers, said Jorge Chavez, a general tasked with coordinating the government's response. "We've never seen anything like this before," said Chavez. "From one moment to the next, sea temperatures rose and winds that keep precipitation from reaching land subsided." Some scientists have said climate change will make El Ninos more frequent and intense. In Peru, apocalyptic scenes recorded on cellphones and shared on social media have broadened the sense of chaos.

A woman caked in mud pulled herself from under a debris-filled river earlier this week after a mudslide rushed through a valley where she was tending to crops. Bridges have collapsed as rivers have breached their banks, and cows and pigs have turned up on beaches after being carried away by rivers. "There's no need to panic, the government knows what it's doing," President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski said in a televised event, urging people to stay clear of rivers. In Lima, the capital, classes have been suspended and running water has been restricted after treatment systems were clogged - prompting a rush on bottled water that produced shortages at some supermarkets.

The vast majority of people affected by the extreme weather are poor, including many who built makeshift homes on floodplains that had been dry for 20 years, said Chavez. "There's no electricity, no drinking water...no transit because streets are flooded," said Valentin Fernandez, mayor of the town Nuevo Chimbote. Chavez said Peru must rethink its infrastructure to prepare for the potential "tropicalization" of the northern desert coast, which some climate models have forecast as temperatures rise. "We need more and better bridges, we need highways and cities with drainage systems," said Chavez. "We can't count on nature being predictable."

Abnormal El Nino in Peru unleashes deadly downpours; more flooding seen
 
New El Niño weather event likely this winter says WMO...
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New El Niño weather event likely this winter says WMO
10 September 2018 - There's a 70% chance of a recurrence of the El Niño weather event before the end of this year, according to the World Meteorological Organisation. The last El Niño occurred in 2015-16 and impacted weather patterns around the world. Researchers say they are not expecting this new one to be as intense as 2015-16.
According to the WMO, climate change is influencing the traditional dynamics of these weather events. The El Niño/Southern Oscillation, to give its proper title, is a natural event that involves fluctuating ocean surface temperatures in the Pacific, which influence the weather all over the world. The 2015-16 El Niño was one of the strongest ever recorded, and had an impact on global temperatures, which saw 2016 enter the record books as the warmest year. As well as heat, the event also led to drought in Africa that saw food production plummet in many countries across the continent. South America saw floods across Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay.

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An image showing the 2015 El Niño with rising temperatures in the Pacific​

This year started with the opposite to El Niño, the so-called La Niña phase. This saw cooler than average sea-surface temperatures in the Pacific. That has now faded and, according to the WMO models, there's a 70% chance of another El Niño developing by the end of this year. However, it is expected to have less impact than in 2015-16. "WMO does not expect the anticipated El Niño to be as powerful as the 2015-2016 event, but it will still have considerable impacts," said WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas. "The advance prediction of this event will help save many lives and considerable economic losses," he added.

Climate change influence

For the first time, the WMO has coupled the El Niño update with a global seasonal climate outlook for the September-November period. The forecast says that above normal surface temperatures are forecast in ][/center] nearly all of the Asia-Pacific region, Europe, North America, Africa and much of coastal South America.

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While El Niño events normally occur every five to seven years, the recurrence of the event so close to the previous one, suggests that climate change may be having an impact. "Climate change is influencing the traditional dynamics of El Niño and La Niña events as well as their impacts," said Petteri Taalas. "2018 started out with a weak La Niña event but its cooling effect was not enough to reduce the overall warming trend which means that this year is on track to be one of the warmest on record." Separately, Japan's weather bureau said there is a 60% chance the El Niño weather pattern emerging during the northern hemisphere autumn from September to November.
 
El Nino?

It's a hurricane. It's called 'weather'....

BWUHAHAHAHAHA....
 

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