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He is the president. Where does the buck stop?
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He is the president. Where does the buck stop?
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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Proud Boy with wife and kids
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastrwww.politifact.com
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
The base? Yes. But if you have a spectrum of hard right on the right and hard left on the left, as you get toward the middle, your support gets softer. Somewhere on the spectrum is the tipping point where support tilts one way or the other. He moved the fulcrum closer to his own end with that performance.
LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
Quote whom? Trump condemned the white supremacists and he said what is next George Washington? Guess what? George Washington was next. He was right. You're a snowflake. Poor waste of life, bested again.
What is true is:
- Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden, had an investment deal 7 years ago that involved the Bank of China, but Trumpās $1.5 billion figure is most probably exaggerated. How much itās exaggerated is unclear, given the lack of disclosures.
- There is no evidence that either of the Bidens broke any laws, but experts in political ethics say that the elder Biden would have been better served if his son had never gotten involved with an investment entity linked to China.
- Experts say itās not unusual for the Chinese government and state-affiliated businesses to court prominent Americans or their family members. Ivanka Trump, for example, was granted potentially lucrative trademark protections by the Chinese government while she was serving as a White House official.
Republicans need to very careful in going after Hunter Biden because that can turn very quicken into a discussion of the Ukraine, and Trump's recorded phone call admitting he would trade US support for dirt on Biden. This kind of discussion reminds Trump voters that they're going to be voting for an impeached president that senate republicans quickly dismissed all charges without any investigation or witnesses.
Hunter Biden and China: Looking at a murky business deal
In recent weeks, President Donald Trump and his allies have ratcheted up attacks against Democratic presidential nominee
www.politifact.com
LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
Quote whom? Trump condemned the white supremacists and he said what is next George Washington? Guess what? George Washington was next. He was right. You're a snowflake. Poor waste of life, bested again.
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Game set match.
If you had to bet your life, would you bet Hunter got his money fairly and honestly? Yes or No?What is true is:
What has come out of RNC and Trump campaign are accusation lacking any proof. This started after the Senate republican investigation of both Biden's found no wrong doing.
- Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden, had an investment deal 7 years ago that involved the Bank of China, but Trumpās $1.5 billion figure is most probably exaggerated. How much itās exaggerated is unclear, given the lack of disclosures.
- There is no evidence that either of the Bidens broke any laws, but experts in political ethics say that the elder Biden would have been better served if his son had never gotten involved with an investment entity linked to China.
- Experts say itās not unusual for the Chinese government and state-affiliated businesses to court prominent Americans or their family members. Ivanka Trump, for example, was granted potentially lucrative trademark protections by the Chinese government while she was serving as a White House official.
Republicans need to very careful in going after Hunter Biden because that can turn very quicken into a discussion of the Ukraine, and Trump's recorded phone call admitting he would trade US support for dirt on Biden. This kind of discussion reminds Trump voters that they're going to be voting for an impeached president that senate republicans quickly dismissed all charges without any investigation or witnesses.
Hunter Biden and China: Looking at a murky business deal
In recent weeks, President Donald Trump and his allies have ratcheted up attacks against Democratic presidential nominee
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Biden said that Trump looks down his nose at Irish Catholics? Huh? What the fuck is he talking about?
Trump just nominated a Catholic to the Supreme Court you fucking lying asshole.
Trump just nominated a Catholic to the Supreme Court you fucking lying asshole.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
You seem to be forgetting that everything was peaceful until the commies showed up. I guess you think constitutional rights only apply to people you agree with. I didn't agree with most of the messaging, but they had every right to peaceably assemble and speak their peace. No on had a right to violently confront them. If you think otherwise, you're the problem.
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So? Is that supposed to mean the radical right racists aren't racists?
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Letās look at what Trump actually said, shall we?
Chris Wallace: (41:33)
You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as weāve seen in Portland.
President Donald J. Trump: (41:57)
Sure, Iām willing to do that.
Chris Wallace: (41:59)
Are you prepared specifically to do it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:00)
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right wing.
Chris Wallace: (42:04)
But what are you saying?
President Donald J. Trump: (42:06)
Iām willing to do anything. I want to see peace.
www.rev.com
Now, just because he didn't utter the words he had previously, they want to say he didnāt condemn them. Who gets to choose? Why must he continually be asked to condemn once he already has?
His previous comments-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Chris Wallace: (41:33)
You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as weāve seen in Portland.
President Donald J. Trump: (41:57)
Sure, Iām willing to do that.
Chris Wallace: (41:59)
Are you prepared specifically to do it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:00)
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right wing.
Chris Wallace: (42:04)
But what are you saying?
President Donald J. Trump: (42:06)
Iām willing to do anything. I want to see peace.
Trump & Biden First Presidential Debate 2020 | Transcripts
Full transcript of the first 2020 presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The debate was moderated by Chris Wallace of Fox News on September 29, 2020 in Cleveland, Ohio.
www.rev.com
His previous comments-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
There were citizens there during the day time protesting the removal of the historic statues that weren't affiliated with any of the groups. Of course you already knew that, but your commie propaganda would fall apart if you admit it.
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No, I don't know that. Prove it...
I don't think support for either candidate is that soft today. It was a few months. I saw two polls, both showing voter would not be swayed by the debate. One poll showed only 12% saying the debate may effect their vote. And NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll before the debate finds only 11% of voters undecided.
Poll Finds 11% Of Voters Still Undecided As Election Nears
80% of voters say they have a high level of interest, registering either a "9" or "10" on a 10-point scale in interest.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
I can already tell you have no verbal comprehension skills. At all.
You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT.
You are a foolish human being.
The protest of the statute was organized, promoted, hosted, sponsored and attended by racists. It was a racist event.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
I can already tell you have no verbal comprehension skills. At all.
You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT.
You are a foolish human being.
Poor Fawn, getting his ass handed to him again.
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Aww, poor, ShortBus. Posting that reveals far more about you than it does me. You really shouldn't let other posters get under your skin like that.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
I can already tell you have no verbal comprehension skills. At all.
You do realize he was complimenting the people protesting the statue, too right? The ones who weren't violent? The ones who didn't respond to violence with violence? Same of the alt right protesting the removal. Not all of them were there to cause violence and mayhem, something you love to ignore. You lump them all together like the partisan you naturally are. And then you try to say Trump was saying the extremists were "very fine people".
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT.
You are a foolish human being.
If you had to bet your life, would you bet Hunter got his money fairly and honestly? Yes or No?What is true is:
What has come out of RNC and Trump campaign are accusation lacking any proof. This started after the Senate republican investigation of both Biden's found no wrong doing.
- Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden, had an investment deal 7 years ago that involved the Bank of China, but Trumpās $1.5 billion figure is most probably exaggerated. How much itās exaggerated is unclear, given the lack of disclosures.
- There is no evidence that either of the Bidens broke any laws, but experts in political ethics say that the elder Biden would have been better served if his son had never gotten involved with an investment entity linked to China.
- Experts say itās not unusual for the Chinese government and state-affiliated businesses to court prominent Americans or their family members. Ivanka Trump, for example, was granted potentially lucrative trademark protections by the Chinese government while she was serving as a White House official.
Republicans need to very careful in going after Hunter Biden because that can turn very quicken into a discussion of the Ukraine, and Trump's recorded phone call admitting he would trade US support for dirt on Biden. This kind of discussion reminds Trump voters that they're going to be voting for an impeached president that senate republicans quickly dismissed all charges without any investigation or witnesses.
Hunter Biden and China: Looking at a murky business deal
In recent weeks, President Donald Trump and his allies have ratcheted up attacks against Democratic presidential nominee
Fairly and honestly are subjective.
The question is did he get his money legally?
The answer is yes.
LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
You seem to be forgetting that everything was peaceful until the commies showed up. I guess you think constitutional rights only apply to people you agree with. I didn't agree with most of the messaging, but they had every right to peaceably assemble and speak their peace. No on had a right to violently confront them. If you think otherwise, you're the problem.
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So? Is that supposed to mean the radical right racists aren't racists?
In this country people have a right to be peaceful racist, just like you have a right to be a peaceful commie. When your side decides to breach the peace, as they did in Charlottesville, that makes you the problem. Own it commie.
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LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
View attachment 394893
Proud Boy with wife and kids
View attachment 394897
More Proud Boys
"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
Quote whom? Trump condemned the white supremacists and he said what is next George Washington? Guess what? George Washington was next. He was right. You're a snowflake. Poor waste of life, bested again.
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He didn't condemn the KKK or the Proud Boys or the NPI or skinheads, etc... So that's who he meant are very fine people. Thanks for clearing that up.
I don't think support for either candidate is that soft today. It was a few months. I saw two polls, both showing voter would not be swayed by the debate. One poll showed only 12% saying the debate may effect their vote. And NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll before the debate finds only 11% of voters undecided.
Poll Finds 11% Of Voters Still Undecided As Election Nears
80% of voters say they have a high level of interest, registering either a "9" or "10" on a 10-point scale in interest.
I didn't say that.
I said that if you're talking about the base, you're right. If you're talking about people who voted against Hillary and not for Trump....I think he lost some of them
LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
āExcuse me, they didnāt put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group ā excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.ā
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
āIām not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.ā
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trumpās āvery fine people on both sidesā remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "Iām not putting anybody on a moral plane. What Iām saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but thatās the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "ā¦ both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think thereās blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think thereās blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you donāt have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didnāt put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I said he said there were other people there sans the white supremacists. If he is wrong then shame on him but the point is that he vilified the white supremacists there. His daughter and three grandchildren are Jewish. He is not an antisemite.
And I am Jewish, waste of life. Pay attention.
Great, quote him saying there were other people there...
Quote whom? Trump condemned the white supremacists and he said what is next George Washington? Guess what? George Washington was next. He was right. You're a snowflake. Poor waste of life, bested again.
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He didn't condemn the KKK or the Proud Boys or the NPI or skinheads, etc... So that's who he meant are very fine people. Thanks for clearing that up.
It was truly disgusting.
LoneLaugher
Diamond Member
I don't think support for either candidate is that soft today. It was a few months. I saw two polls, both showing voter would not be swayed by the debate. One poll showed only 12% saying the debate may effect their vote. And NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll before the debate finds only 11% of voters undecided.
Poll Finds 11% Of Voters Still Undecided As Election Nears
80% of voters say they have a high level of interest, registering either a "9" or "10" on a 10-point scale in interest.
I didn't say that.
I said that if you're talking about the base, you're right. If you're talking about people who voted against Hillary and not for Trump....I think he lost some of them
He has been losing them since the morning of November 10, 2016.
