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Arsonists are like that, yeah they are.I have a question for Trump supporters:
If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?
Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?
Or has the climate changed?
he ran on making the rest of the world pay for those drugs and not just American families. seems it's working.Could not believe that Trump said he " was going to drop drug prices by 80-90% . that would mean that drug company's would be giving away all their drugs, and be picking up all but 10 to 20 percent of there overhead, makes zero sense.
LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.Biden puntedHis lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.
Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away
No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastrwww.politifact.com
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
They were people there to support their belief that statues should be left alone. Peaceful southern pride folks. They do exist.
Prove they were at that rally.... It was a racist rally by the alt-right. The event was created, sponsored, promoted, hosted and attended by racists from various racist groups.
I was not there. I am guessing that was the intel he received. I am a Jew, I know what they were chanting. I believe he should have been stronger in his denouncement.
You claim to be a Jew but here you are, claiming there were "very fine people" in that crowd.
Which ones were "very fine people?" Point them out...
I have run into them physically and their name is an oxymoron. Biden also said the US is systemically racist. I disagree.Yep. I think he wants them on his side since BLM and Antifa are against him. Disaster all around. At least he admitted they exist. Biden said Antifa is just an idea.One thing is clear:
Trump gave a command order to the proud boys - he openly acted as their commander.
He clearly established himself as a white nationalist, a racist and in control of these hate groups.
It's bad enough that he refuses to denounce organizations that are clearly Anti-American, but giving them instructions as their commander borders on treason.
I know that the concept of AntiFa being an idea rather than an organization scares you, but being Anti-Fascist is very, very American.
Best thing to do is shut off the mike of the guy who is NOT speaking Take away the scumbag trumps whole gameWhy aren’t they discussing foreign policy?
Did you actually expect Chris Wallace to choose to allow Trump to talk about his historic peace deal? No, it's FAR more important to the future of the nation that they gabble on about whether or not climate change is responsible for forest fires.
The topics for this debate were negotiated and made clear beforehand.
I'm sure that foreign policy will be a topic at one of the future debates.
Biden:Biden may not have won the debate, but it was obvious that Trump lost it!!!!!!!!
How is it rainfall and temperatures are normal?I have a question for Trump supporters:
If poor forest management is the cause of California's current fires, why has the instances of fires increased so much just this year?
Was forest management better last year or the year before? Has forest management changed drastically?
Or has the climate changed?
Misleading the public is a far more serious offense than misstating known facts. Saying we have shipped 50 million test kits instead of saying we have shipped a huge number of test kits is bad but not near as bad as downplay the seriousness of a disease with no cure or vaccination that has cost the lives many Americans. Misstating know facts decreases the creditability of a president. Misleading the public on the seriousness of a disease cost lives.If Donnie wasn't branded as a liar he is now. Did anyone count how many times he was called a liar or a clown tonight on global and national television?Trump controlled the debate to such a degree that Biden wasn't able to get a shot, or even a word, in edgewise. Wallace was unable to double team Trump effectively. Trump turned the debate into a brawl and grappling match. It was a draw, which is a win for Trump.
47 years looking into the camera and doing fking nothing for 47 fking years. HilariousMisleading the public is a far more serious offense than misstating known facts. Saying we have shipped 50 million test kits instead of saying we have shipped a huge number of test kits is bad but not near as bad as downplay the seriousness of a disease with no cure or vaccination that has cost the lives many Americans. Misstating know facts decreases the creditability of a president. Misleading the public on the seriousness of a disease cost lives.If Donnie wasn't branded as a liar he is now. Did anyone count how many times he was called a liar or a clown tonight on global and national television?Trump controlled the debate to such a degree that Biden wasn't able to get a shot, or even a word, in edgewise. Wallace was unable to double team Trump effectively. Trump turned the debate into a brawl and grappling match. It was a draw, which is a win for Trump.
In his basement?Looks like Joe knew where he was after all.
Are there any official lie counts out there for both candidates?
Biden had to have told at least 30 lies.
i could list 10 just off the top of my head.
1) Trump told everyone to inject Clorox into their veins
2) Trump referred to soldiers as losers
3) Trump didnt denounce White Supremacists at Charlottesville
4) Trump is responsible for COVID.
5) Trump doesnt pay taxes
6) Trump is responsible for the riots
7) Trump is responsible for the fires in California
8) Biden and Obama handed Trump the best economy ever and Trump fucked it up.
9) Biden’s refusal to answer the question about the Supreme Court stacking is the same as a lie. The answer is YES.
10) Trump tax cuts ONLY benefit millionaires.
11) ANTIFA is an idea, not an organization.
Biden is a lying sack of shit. Not surprising for someone who has been in politics for 20% of the entire existence of the USA.
I think the debate probably energized both candidates base for different reasons.When your opposition starts attacking the moderator for their candidates rather poor performance, then you know you won.He was lucid, manipulative, and just kept telling one huge lie after another.Was biden gaffe free? No, but I think he did a lot better than most people were expecting.Already reading that numerous democrats don't want Slow Joe to debate again. Wow! Even his own supporters are telling him to stop.
I told them Biden can't handle an opponent as strong as Trump. Hell Hillary barely stood her ground and she's about as nasty as the Dems have.You say the Slow Joe "did it"... But he claimed 200 million have died from Covid. That statement alone showed his 47 years of doing nothing has destructed his brain. The old man is shot. He had nothing but deflecting fake laughs. President Trump is living in his head now rent free. Let him keep fake laughing while people are dying.Huh?200 million?Phhhhhheewww....oh boy....
First off, hats off to Wallace. That could not have been an easy job. For those of you who say Wallace is a disgrace...you are entitled to your opinion...but I just dont see it.
I imagine wallace, after he leaves tonight is going to have himself a stiff drink.....or 18....
I did not see where wallace was favoring trump at all. He spent most of the debate trying to shut trump down. Again, that chair was a tough place to be tonight.
Say what you will, but biden did it. He held out for the entire debate and didn't cave. Sure, he had a few moments where he got a bit tongue tied, but at the end of it all, he didn't turn into the nonsensical babbling person people thought he would. For the most part, he stayed on point. Its because of this that I think trumps antics actually helped biden.
Biden, by withstanding trumps onslaught, showed people he has more resolve. I think this is going to play well for biden, not so much for trump.
Trump had a good opportunity here to prove all of his critics wrong. He should have stood up there, and respected biden. He should have respected Wallace, and the rules of the debate. They both should have spoken when it was their turn and respected the other person when it wasn't.
Trump had an opportunity to look presidential, but he didn't do it. He had to be the aggressor and the bully. He had to dominate and try to shut biden down. He could have been the bigger man, and people would have gained respect for him, because he would have shown the country that he could stand there and carry on a debate, calmly, and with reservation.
Again, I think this is not going to play well for trump. Let's hope someone talks to him and gives him some constructive criticism before their next debate.
I think most people have already made up their minds, so, in the long run, this will probably not really hurt trump.
People were claiming he needed breaks because he couldn't handle 90 minutes straight. People were saying he was going to fall apart.
Again, say what you will, he withstood better than most thought he would, and with trump interrupting and trying rattle him the whole time, I think it may have backfired on trump.
Wallace allowed Biden to lie with impunity, Trump had to jump in and do the moderating.
Considering the fact that Wallace was doing the job of 4 moderator and how poorly the candidates followed the rules, I think he did a very good job. If I was Wallace, I would have politely told them to shut up and then I would have turned off their mike. This wasn't a debate, it was a shouting match in which each candidate spent as much time off topic as they spent on topic.
If you're ahead in the polls, as Biden seems to be, he did quite a bit better than he had to. I think he actually gained ground.
What rules weren’t followed?No its not like a high school debate, in high school they know the rules agree to follow the rules that's a debate.It’s like a high school debate
LOLStand down and stand backShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.Biden puntedHis lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.
Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away
No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.
It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.
No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.
He has formerly condemned white supremacists.-
“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:
“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
Proud Boys being used a white supremacist group is a left wing thing, without merit.
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"But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."
It was a racist rally to unite the alt-right extremist groups of the Proud Boys, KKK, neo-nazis, and other assorted white supremacists...
... so who anong them are "very fine people?"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
Thanks for proving what I said is accurate. Impeached Trump called members of the racist alt-right, "very fine people."
What that transcript says is that you cherrypicked the quote, you dishonest prick. Don't lie to me.
Whassamatter, fool, you don't like me using your source to prove I'm right?
Sure, calling me names proves you're right Faun. I read the transcript from top to bottom. Want me to prove YOU wrong with it? The very title of the page is "IN CONTEXT" in which the president was quoted. YOU only take at minimum five words out of an entire transcript and attempt to shape a false narrative around it.
Have a seat you worthless tool.
From the link I posted:
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
You're proving me right again. It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
"You're proving me right again."
How? Be more specific than pre-generated talking points.
It was a racist rally by the alt-right. he event was created, sponsored, promoted and attended by racists from various groups. So who where these "very fine people" on the right of whom Impeached Trump spoke? Was it the Proud Boys? The KKK? White nationalists? White Supremacists? Neo-nazis? Who??
