Official USMB Debate 2020 -- "Round One" Thread..

Was the first presidential debate a "shit show"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 87.7%
  • No

    Votes: 8 12.3%

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Doc7505

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I think Trump’s strategy was to be overly aggressive to try to rattle Joe Biden. I don’t think it worked.

If it had worked, you would have heard all the dementia talk. But that wasn’t the case at all. He looked fine. I think it backfired. It made Trump look like a jackass and Biden looked relatively cool under the pressure.

Trump also kept trying to peg Biden with far-left labels. Green New Deal, defunding the police, Antifa, socialism. Maybe he was trying to get Biden to denounce them to lose his far left supporters. I think Biden fumbled on the Antifa question but the rest was handled decently. Biden isn’t that left. Maybe Trump thought he was talking to Bernie Sanders.

Of course maybe I’m assuming too much and Trump didn’t actually have a plan.
Trump is a masterbaiter - but Biden held his own. Biden clearly won the night.

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Come on man!! Joey Xi got mauled... Joey just denounced the Sanders/AOC crowd tonight. He's in bad kim chi now..
 
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Biden handled the bit about his son taking money exactly like Trump does. He lied, called it completely fake news, called it a totally discredited lie. Very impressive. Very Trumpian.

Of course most of — but certainly not all of — those charges were exaggerations. Biden actually came out of it sounding almost classy, like a wounded father. Pretty surprising to me.

You forget there are suspicious activity reports from the banks that document the transactions.

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It is true
 

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I think Trump’s strategy was to be overly aggressive to try to rattle Joe Biden. I don’t think it worked.

If it had worked, you would have heard all the dementia talk. But that wasn’t the case at all. He looked fine. I think it backfired. It made Trump look like a jackass and Biden looked relatively cool under the pressure.

Trump also kept trying to peg Biden with far-left labels. Green New Deal, defunding the police, Antifa, socialism. Maybe he was trying to get Biden to denounce them to lose his far left supporters. I think Biden fumbled on the Antifa question but the rest was handled decently. Biden isn’t that left. Maybe Trump thought he was talking to Bernie Sanders.

Of course maybe I’m assuming too much and Trump didn’t actually have a plan.
Trump is a masterbaiter - but Biden held his own. Biden clearly won the night.

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Come on man!! Joey Xi got mauled... Joey just denounced the Sanders/AOC crowd tonight. He's in bad kim chi now..
And Biden claimed the Grenn New Deal was now THE BIDEN PLAN... Bet that goes over well..
 

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That's what I would expect from CNN.. polling their own... I am surprised however that it wasn't 10/10. This means 4 out of ten of their left wing people didn't think Biden did well...
Actually, only 28% thought Trump won. The rest thought it was a draw.

Safe to say other than rallying the proud boys tonight’s debate did nothing for either candidate. I suspect more people were appalled by Trump than disappointed by Biden.
Good point. The thing is, six months of talking about "Sleepy Joe", Biden didn't have a very high bar to cross. He did what he had to do. He looked engaged and he hit back when needed.

Indeed... whatever drugs they've been feeding Joey Xi worked..
 

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“Stand back and stand by.”

I’m seeing a lot of stuff posted on this moment.

They tossed Trump a layup and he botched it bad. Expect this quote to show up at the next debate.

Trump supporters are trying to deny it. But there’s proof. Next, they’ll move on to spinning the story as soon as Breitbart tells them what they’re supposed to think.
 

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Trump is like a battle bot. He is a fighter for sure.
Yeah, he is not a sly politician. He is blunt and effective.

The NBC coverage is hilariously biased in their comments right now. So corrupt.
trump lost. There are rules in debate and when you break them you lose points. trump lost every round.
In a boxing fight he would have been docked points on many rounds...
True.
 

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Hispanics throw in BIG TIME for President Trump after the debate. :thup:


Democrat operatives must be panicking in the fallout of the first presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, considering the initial response from the Hispanic community.

In Telemundo’s poll of Spanish-speaking individuals, a shocking 66 percent of them believed that Trump defeated Biden in the debate. ( 34% for Biden )





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I really thought Trump would demolish Biden. I’m glad he did not. The moderator was obviously tough on Trump, but Trump did interrupt constantly. Not a great win for Biden. But a bad night for Trump.
I don't know why you would think that, trump is an idiot and Biden is far more intelligent.
 

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Was biden gaffe free? No, but I think he did a lot better than most people were expecting.
Some analyst are saying Biden was on the verge of a gaffe many times but Trump interrupted and saved Biden from himself.
Possibly. Another reason why trump was actually working against his own interest here.
So, how did the Slow Joe win the debate again? :blahblah:
I don't know that biden won the debate so much as trump lost the debate.

When the leader of the free world goes on national television, and in front of the entire world, and acts like that, its not good. Thats all I'm saying.
Biden called the POTUS a liar, racist, murderer, and a number of nasty names and it's Trump you have an issue with??
I'm not dismissing biden. I'm also not saying trump shouldn't be allowed to defend against those attacks. What im saying is, this debate was televised for the entire world to see. When you are that visible, you need to be more distinguished. BOTH of them.
I love that it was, Democrats need to be exposed for who they are. You should see the Australia news reporting on Biden, they think the guy is a lying joke.
 

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Look people THIS IS HOW FAR APART THE TWO PARTIES ARE and it's been the left stirring shit up not the center or right. We on the right don't really care what the left does so long as they don't try to impose their leftist world view on us and tax us into oblivion and kill jobs, businesses, hell entire industries with their policies and ship our jobs to Mexico, Canada, and China. Because they are doing all of this we have to destroy them.
 

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I was expecting Trump to act just little bit presidential but he sounded a lot like he did in 2016 debates.
Why? Biden called him a liar, a racist, a murderer, and more. I'm pretty sure if some asshole Dem was calling you all of those things on international TV you would respond no?
 

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Hispanics throw in BIG TIME for President Trump after the debate. :thup:


Democrat operatives must be panicking in the fallout of the first presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, considering the initial response from the Hispanic community.

In Telemundo’s poll of Spanish-speaking individuals, a shocking 66 percent of them believed that Trump defeated Biden in the debate. ( 34% for Biden )





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trump lost.

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Biden quote of the night that damaged his campaign...(I AM THE DEMOCRAT PARTY) wow, just wow.
Sounds like something a dictator might say.
They should've asked him if he would establish a national mask mandate.

Come to think of it, someone needs to ask him if he would try to reinstate Obamacare's individual mandate.
Biden vowed to EXPAND Obamacare. The guy is stuck on stupid, even his own party wants nothing to do with Obamacare it cost them the biggest Dem loss in nearly 100 years in 2010 and it cost them again in 2014. Dem candidates were screaming at Obama to go on tv and take the blame for it. Now here's Biden yapping about Obamacare hilarious.
 

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Already reading that numerous democrats don't want Slow Joe to debate again. Wow! Even his own supporters are telling him to stop.
I told them Biden can't handle an opponent as strong as Trump. Hell Hillary barely stood her ground and she's about as nasty as the Dems have.
Phhhhhheewww....oh boy....

First off, hats off to Wallace. That could not have been an easy job. For those of you who say Wallace is a disgrace...you are entitled to your opinion...but I just dont see it.

I imagine wallace, after he leaves tonight is going to have himself a stiff drink.....or 18....

I did not see where wallace was favoring trump at all. He spent most of the debate trying to shut trump down. Again, that chair was a tough place to be tonight.

Say what you will, but biden did it. He held out for the entire debate and didn't cave. Sure, he had a few moments where he got a bit tongue tied, but at the end of it all, he didn't turn into the nonsensical babbling person people thought he would. For the most part, he stayed on point. Its because of this that I think trumps antics actually helped biden.

Biden, by withstanding trumps onslaught, showed people he has more resolve. I think this is going to play well for biden, not so much for trump.

Trump had a good opportunity here to prove all of his critics wrong. He should have stood up there, and respected biden. He should have respected Wallace, and the rules of the debate. They both should have spoken when it was their turn and respected the other person when it wasn't.

Trump had an opportunity to look presidential, but he didn't do it. He had to be the aggressor and the bully. He had to dominate and try to shut biden down. He could have been the bigger man, and people would have gained respect for him, because he would have shown the country that he could stand there and carry on a debate, calmly, and with reservation.

Again, I think this is not going to play well for trump. Let's hope someone talks to him and gives him some constructive criticism before their next debate.

I think most people have already made up their minds, so, in the long run, this will probably not really hurt trump.
200 million?
Huh?
You say the Slow Joe "did it"... But he claimed 200 million have died from Covid. That statement alone showed his 47 years of doing nothing has destructed his brain. The old man is shot. He had nothing but deflecting fake laughs. President Trump is living in his head now rent free. Let him keep fake laughing while people are dying.
Was biden gaffe free? No, but I think he did a lot better than most people were expecting.

People were claiming he needed breaks because he couldn't handle 90 minutes straight. People were saying he was going to fall apart.

Again, say what you will, he withstood better than most thought he would, and with trump interrupting and trying rattle him the whole time, I think it may have backfired on trump.
He was lucid, manipulative, and just kept telling one huge lie after another.
Wallace allowed Biden to lie with impunity, Trump had to jump in and do the moderating.
When your opposition starts attacking the moderator for their candidates rather poor performance, then you know you won.

Considering the fact that Wallace was doing the job of 4 moderator and how poorly the candidates followed the rules, I think he did a very good job. If I was Wallace, I would have politely told them to shut up and then I would have turned off their mike. This wasn't a debate, it was a shouting match in which each candidate spent as much time off topic as they spent on topic.
What part of Wallace allowed Biden to lie repeatedly don't you understand?
 

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I was expecting Trump to act just little bit presidential but he sounded a lot like he did in 2016 debates.
Why? Biden called him a liar, a racist, a murderer, and more. I'm pretty sure if some asshole Dem was calling you all of those things on international TV you would respond no?
He called trump what his records shows him to be.
 

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