Official USMB Debate 2020 -- "Round One" Thread..

[Doc7505]

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot quickly fired back at Trump after he invoked Chicago’s gun violence to criticize Dems, tweeting: “Keep ‘Chicago’ out of your lying mouth.” ⠀

Trump lied about the gun violence in Chigago?
Someone had better alert all the news stories covering it over the last decade.

Au Contraire::
"There were 2,151 shootings across the city in 2019, police said".
See:

Chicago closes year with double-digit drops in murders, shootings

Though 492 people were killed in 2019, the number is 13% lower than the 567 who were murdered in 2018, according to data released Tuesday by Chicago police

chicago.suntimes.com

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Chicago sees 139% jump in murders, uptick in shootings in July 2020: police

July saw the largest mass shooting in recent Chicago history, along with at least 58 minors shot.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[candycorn]

Already reading that numerous democrats don't want Slow Joe to debate again. Wow! Even his own supporters are telling him to stop.

I told them Biden can't handle an opponent as strong as Trump. Hell Hillary barely stood her ground and she's about as nasty as the Dems have.

Phhhhhheewww....oh boy....

First off, hats off to Wallace. That could not have been an easy job. For those of you who say Wallace is a disgrace...you are entitled to your opinion...but I just dont see it.

I imagine wallace, after he leaves tonight is going to have himself a stiff drink.....or 18....

I did not see where wallace was favoring trump at all. He spent most of the debate trying to shut trump down. Again, that chair was a tough place to be tonight.

Say what you will, but biden did it. He held out for the entire debate and didn't cave. Sure, he had a few moments where he got a bit tongue tied, but at the end of it all, he didn't turn into the nonsensical babbling person people thought he would. For the most part, he stayed on point. Its because of this that I think trumps antics actually helped biden.

Biden, by withstanding trumps onslaught, showed people he has more resolve. I think this is going to play well for biden, not so much for trump.

Trump had a good opportunity here to prove all of his critics wrong. He should have stood up there, and respected biden. He should have respected Wallace, and the rules of the debate. They both should have spoken when it was their turn and respected the other person when it wasn't.

Trump had an opportunity to look presidential, but he didn't do it. He had to be the aggressor and the bully. He had to dominate and try to shut biden down. He could have been the bigger man, and people would have gained respect for him, because he would have shown the country that he could stand there and carry on a debate, calmly, and with reservation.

Again, I think this is not going to play well for trump. Let's hope someone talks to him and gives him some constructive criticism before their next debate.

I think most people have already made up their minds, so, in the long run, this will probably not really hurt trump.

200 million?

Huh?

You say the Slow Joe "did it"... But he claimed 200 million have died from Covid. That statement alone showed his 47 years of doing nothing has destructed his brain. The old man is shot. He had nothing but deflecting fake laughs. President Trump is living in his head now rent free. Let him keep fake laughing while people are dying.

Was biden gaffe free? No, but I think he did a lot better than most people were expecting.

People were claiming he needed breaks because he couldn't handle 90 minutes straight. People were saying he was going to fall apart.

Again, say what you will, he withstood better than most thought he would, and with trump interrupting and trying rattle him the whole time, I think it may have backfired on trump.

He was lucid, manipulative, and just kept telling one huge lie after another.

Wallace allowed Biden to lie with impunity, Trump had to jump in and do the moderating.

When your opposition starts attacking the moderator for their candidates rather poor performance, then you know you won.

Considering the fact that Wallace was doing the job of 4 moderator and how poorly the candidates followed the rules, I think he did a very good job. If I was Wallace, I would have politely told them to shut up and then I would have turned off their mike. This wasn't a debate, it was a shouting match in which each candidate spent as much time off topic as they spent on topic.

If you're ahead in the polls, as Biden seems to be, he did quite a bit better than he had to. I think he actually gained ground.

 

[jc456]

I saw him as more lackluster, less animated. He looked tired. Trump needs a live audience to bring out his highest and best. I did like his statement to Joe, twice, "you just lost the Left" LOL

It just shows Trump doesn't understand the left.

You don’t understand Trump

 

[basquebromance]

CNN's Don Lemon just told Trump and his supporters: "don't be racist pigs!"

 

[candycorn]

Who do you think will be the first candidate to make a racist remark tonight? Also, why do you think it will be Joe Biden?

Telling violent White Supremacists to "stand by" was frankly surprising....

 

[TemplarKormac]

His lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.

Biden punted

Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.

Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away

He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?

No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.

He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.

ShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.

Stand down and stand back

LOL

It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.

No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.

Not what happened. If you’re just going to stick to ad Hominems pick a different user to troll. Thanks.

ShortBus, I posted that with a link to the video of him saying everything I quoted him saying. You denying reality doesn't mean he didn't refuse to condemn white supremacists; it just means you're a fucking nut.

Just as I figured you cannot be civil. Enjoy your echo chamber.

Why should people be civil with someone who's denying what is shown on video? If you're gonna blatantly lie like that, you should expect incivility.

...oh

So if it's good for Biden, it's good for Trump too. Gotcha.

 

[toobfreak]

As for as most voters are concerned, this election is all about, Trump's performance. There's not a lot to question about Biden's performance.

OH RUBBISH. Had this viral pandemic never hit the planet this year, there would be NO QUESTION about Trump's performance. He's knocked it out of the ballpark these past four years DESPITE massive interference.

Dems want to try to claim Trump somehow failed at Covid, a problem which has eluded every other nation on the planet! And will do so until a vaccine is delivered.

SO THE REAL QUESTION is: WHY SHOULD WE REPLACE AN OTHERWISE SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT!

And you can't ask that question without examining who and what you are proposing replacing him with.

Tonight's debate was 95% focused on attacking Trump, 5% on Biden.

And most of THAT was brought up by Trump himself, AGAINST THE PROTESTATIONS OF WALLACE.

Chris Wallace can go suck HORSE COCK.

Tonight's debate was set up as a hit on Donald Trump.

 

[Dragonlady]

He said Antifa is an idea and to send shrinks with police officers on calls. He is nuts.

THANK YOU I mean WTF and where was Wallace follow up on that??? Thug is shooting up a neighborhood and Biden wants to send in a social worker the guy is disconnected from reality.

No, it is YOU who are disconnected from reality. The social worker/psychiatrist is to accompany officers on family disturbance and mental health calls. So that when the police get there and the naked guy is running around and screaming, the police don't kill him because he won't calm down.

This week, two cities paid out $32 million for the wrongful deaths of Breonna Taylor and William Green. Green was shot 6 times in the head by police as he sat with his hands cuffed behind his back, in the front seat of the police cruiser. His family received $20 million and the cop has been charged with 2nd degree murder.

Taxpayers are tired of having to pay out tax dollars which should be going to schools, and roads, and city services, going to yet another grieving black family, who was wantonly killed in police custody. Joe Arpaio was voted out as Sheriff because the citizens of Maricopa County paid $20 million out of their own pockets, to the victims of Arpaio's attacks on Hispanics.

1500 Americans died at the hands of the police, or while in police custody, last year. It's not just the anger, the rioting and the looting, it's the $300 million American taxpayers paid out to the victims of police brutality. That comes directly out of the pockets of every home owner in the city/county/community.

Please stop interfering in our elections.

You first.

I am an American from Boston. You’re a dirty Canuck hag. Please stop interfering in our elections

You may very well be an American from Boston, but you are not a 30 something married father and small business owner, unless your small business involves posting 40 messages a day on a message board. And your lack of business knowledge undermines your assertion that you're a "management consultant".

Americans have been interfering our elections for years. Trump even promoted Andrew Scheer before our last election. Scheer is currently out as Conservative Leader, and under investigation by the RCMP for lavish living on the Conservative Party's dime. Well, not dime. $900,000 actually.

You stay out of our elections we stay out of yours. What did you think I was saying?

40 in less than two weeks. It’s 12:20AM. I am posting now. Stop interfering in our elections and stop talking about my kids. Weirdo.

I never mentioned your kids. You did. I said your background story is phony. My youngest daughter and her husband are in your position. 30ish, starting a business, young children. My SIL spends every spare minute on his business. Not on social media, unless he's posting on his business page, or promoting his business page.

He sure as hell isn't posting 40 times a day on a political page. EVER. Much 40 posts a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for two years.

 

[jc456]

That's what I would expect from CNN.. polling their own... I am surprised however that it wasn't 10/10. This means 4 out of ten of their left wing people didn't think Biden did well...

Actually, only 28% thought Trump won. The rest thought it was a draw.

Safe to say other than rallying the proud boys tonight’s debate did nothing for either candidate. I suspect more people were appalled by Trump than disappointed by Biden.

Good point. The thing is, six months of talking about "Sleepy Joe", Biden didn't have a very high bar to cross. He did what he had to do. He looked engaged and he hit back when needed.

That’s sad that’s all you think of Biden, presidential candidate, was to not mess up!

 

[OKTexas]

Biden handled the bit about his son taking money exactly like Trump does. He lied, called it completely fake news, called it a totally discredited lie. Very impressive. Very Trumpian.

Of course most of — but certainly not all of — those charges were exaggerations. Biden actually came out of it sounding almost classy, like a wounded father. Pretty surprising to me.

You forget there are suspicious activity reports from the banks that document the transactions.

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[pknopp]

As I've said many times, whether or not Trump is a racist he knows he has to appeal to them to win.

'Stand back and stand by': Trump refuses to condemn white supremacists in Tuesday's presidential debate

 

[Faun]

His

His lack of courage in answering the packing of the Supreme Court is interesting. We ll see if this hurts Biden.

Biden punted

Yes. Unfortunate. Shows cowardice.

Trump didn’t punt on condemning White Supremacy
He just can’t do it. Looked like he was going to at first, then backed away

He said Proud Boys stand down and Biden said Antifa is an idea?

No. He didn't say ”Proud Boys stand down”.

He did. LoneLoser. Turn up your miracle ear, fatty.

ShortBus, Impeached Trump said, "stand back and stand by." Asked to condemn white supremacists, he instead tells them to stand by.

Stand down and stand back

LOL

It's like you rightards live in an alternate universe where you make up your own alternative facts.

No moron, he said, "stand back and stand by." And immediately after telling thd Proud Boys to "stand by," he says, "but I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left." So rather than condemn white supremacists, he gives them the green light to "do something" about the left. He's a sick fuck who supports white supremacy.

Not what happened. If you’re just going to stick to ad Hominems pick a different user to troll. Thanks.

It's EXACTLY what happened. The Proud Boys have already adopted the phrase "Stand back and stand by" as their new motto and they're promoting it.

Sucks to be a stupid Trump Troll.

Proud boys are run by a black man how could they be a white supremacist group if their leader is a black man

He is Hispanic. Jeezuz!

He’s got the same complexion as African-American men moron

Damn. And I thought Faun was crazy. You two deserve one another

You come here and post your Trump cult bullshit. You lie, and insult other posters. Basically, you're an entitled white asshat.

Who the fuck do you think you are, calling people names and ordering them around? Get a clue!

His boyfriend calls him "Karen".

Gay slurs. Hilarious. You have me confused with Faun.

Nope, I'm straight, married and have kids; so no, he's not confused.

 

[basquebromance]

BIDEN tonight: “The Green New Deal is not my plan.”

BIDEN website: “Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework…”

So what is it, Joe? You can’t have it both ways.

Comrades Bernie and AOC, and the American people deserve an answer.

 

[Orangecat]

As for as most voters are concerned, this election is all about, Trump's performance. There's not a lot to question about Biden's performance. He's hasn't done anything for 8 years because he's been retired. His career as vice president and as a senator is an open book. He is just not that interesting. His platform is exactly what one would expect from any democrat candidate. All in all, voter's are simple not that interested in Biden. They are going to be voting for or against Trump. How often do voters get a chance to vote for an impeached president. Voters are plenty interested in hearing what Trump has to say about his response to covid, the economy, the supreme court nomination, his rather usually take on the upcoming election voting. I believe Wallace selected the topic and questions voter are most interested in hearing about and they are almost all about Trump.

Well said. Biden spends a lot of time stuttering and basically saying nothing beyond "Trump bad". Bo-f'n-ring.

 

[Billy_Bob]

That's what I would expect from CNN.. polling their own... I am surprised however that it wasn't 10/10. This means 4 out of ten of their left wing people didn't think Biden did well...

Actually, only 28% thought Trump won. The rest thought it was a draw.

Safe to say other than rallying the proud boys tonight’s debate did nothing for either candidate. I suspect more people were appalled by Trump than disappointed by Biden.

Good point. The thing is, six months of talking about "Sleepy Joe", Biden didn't have a very high bar to cross. He did what he had to do. He looked engaged and he hit back when needed.

That’s sad that’s all you think of Biden, presidential candidate, was to not mess up!

THe Biden camp buried the bar so Joe could walk over it without tripping... The bar was so low that Joe could have low-crawled over it on his belly.

 

[Billy_Bob]

BIDEN tonight: “The Green New Deal is not my plan.”

BIDEN website: “Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework…”

So what is it, Joe? You can’t have it both ways.

Comrades Bernie and AOC, and the American people deserve an answer.

The green new deal is now THE BIDEN PLAN...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Biden handled the bit about his son taking money exactly like Trump does. He lied, called it completely fake news, called it a totally discredited lie. Very impressive. Very Trumpian.

Of course most of — but certainly not all of — those charges were exaggerations. Biden actually came out of it sounding almost classy, like a wounded father. Pretty surprising to me.

You forget there are suspicious activity reports from the banks that document the transactions.

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Now, now... You know that facts dont matter to democrats and their lemmings...

 

[jc456]

Demofks must squash the Trump

 

[Orangecat]

It just shows Trump doesn't understand the left.

The only fix for that is a lobotomy.

 

[basquebromance]

our global enemies are cracking the fuck up

if you're a country that's allied to the US, you're like HOLY SHIT