Obama One Term President

The Nature of Politcal Parties

Any political party, by definition, is a conglomeration of people with a wide range of interests and priorities. This range of outlooks need to be as wide as possible so as to attract as many diverse followers as possible.

The enemy of every political party is those who would narrow its focus unduly, causing groups of splinter off, and causing others to feel unmotivated to work for the party, and vote for the party.

A Party must have a core, and those who attack that core are an enemy of the whole, because that core must be like the hub of a wheel with many spokes radiating out to the rim, which also needs to be strong to carry the weight whole when in contact with the ground. A Party, like a wheel is a complex organism that has many parts all of which must be paid attention to for the whole to be strong.

Each spoke and part of the wheel whines and groans and threatens collapse to try to get its way, but the only way to move forward is to ignore all threats while trying to meet all needs.

Parties are war machines, and in war you always have two fronts, the enemy in front and the traitors, spies, defeatists and double agents in your midst, and other the two, your rear is more important that your front line.

Defeatist talk is a big enemy in wartime and is therefore often punished severely, as it should be. Talk of treason and defeat are the hallmarks of a double agent and they must be shut down.

This forum has a lot of double agents pretending to be Conservatives, Christians, and Republicans, but they are really Democrats in disguise trying to disrupt us to produce division, cause doubt and make us lose focus.

Just because someone "says" they are a Conservative, Christian or Republican does not mean they are anything of the sort. Don't pay attention to who people say they are, but pay attention to what they say and do. Judge them by their fruit, not their foliage. Gays are especially skilled at playing the double agent role, not that all do, but that many do. These types always think Conservatives are stupid and can be manipulated easily.

As to Candidates: The winner will be that person who is most true to their gender, and who has the most money, and most fanatical volunteers. Sarah wins on all three of those counts in both the Primaries and the General Election. What we don't want is another colorless McCain, Bob Dole type that doesn't inspire or attract fanatic volunteers or lots of money.

Sarah is a money raising, volunteer raising machine, and I don't see anyone out there that has those skills she has. Nice people, yes, but those qualities NO.
 
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Name names...

Give me one Republican who is capable of defeating Obama


Michelle Bachmann

Gen Patreaus

Bobby Jindal

Mitch Daniels

Mike Pence

Rick Perry

John Thune

Paul Ryan

Democrat Problem of Long Standing....

Is that they are a party from their very beginning in 1800 AD, (and 1800 BC for that matter) that has never had any principles whatsoever.

They are, and always have been, unprincipled opportunistic parasites and leaches on the decent people.

Whether they were the slavers of Egypt, or the slavers of the South, they were always the lazy parasites wanting to live off of others without working themselves.

Today they specialize in being government Bureaucrats living off of the people's blood, just as they have done throughout history.

To hold on to this exploitative power they will do anything, believe anything, hand out welfare for votes, and commit any crime, just to keep themselves a leaches on the people.

Republicans throughout history have been the party that have resisted this. They represent all those who honestly WORK, who raise the crops and build the building, and do all that which benefits humanity. They produce and represent the producers, while Democrats consume and represent those who consume without working. This can take the form of lazy Union workers, or lazy bureaucrats, or lazy do-gooders, or lazy whatever, but they are always lazy. For example, Obama never held a job in his life and has never done a days work in his life. He has always lived off of the people, and same with Biden and same with every Democrat. Now, Democrats will scramble around and allege this or that exception, but it remains essentially true.

Contrast that with Sarah who has worked all her life, literally worked with her hands, and her husband Todd who has worked with his hands, and Abe Lincoln who worked with his hands.

This analysis is necessarily a generalization which has some exceptions, but in general it is a fair delineation and depiction. Jamestown was settled by these lazy aristocrats from England called gentlemen cavaliers and they always had a cavalier attitude such that they would never dirty their hands planting a potato. Instead they imported Black people from Africa and forced them to plant and harvest and cook their potatoes. Contrast that with the Puritans of New England who prided themselves in planting and harvesting their own potatoes with no help from slaves.

These two ideas were woven into the foundations of America and are present to this very day in our two parties.

Of course your facts are faulty, lopsided as usual, but hey, we get it that you worship Sarah. You could be her campaign manager.
 
Michelle Bachmann

Gen Patreaus

Bobby Jindal

Mitch Daniels

Mike Pence

Rick Perry

John Thune

Paul Ryan

Thank you...those were the names I expected. I notice you left off Mitt Romney who is the only Republican with a chance of winning.

Like I said, with the radical Conservatices pulling strings and naming candidates like you did

Obama Landslide in 2012


The only way Obama were to win by a "landslide" is if he were to hire an organization similar to ACORN to pull up some dead folks names (and it would have to be a crap load of names), get them registered and cast the votes along with adding illegals to the voter registration. To many of his supporters had defected from Obama.

Another alternative for an Obama landslide win is for the GOP to run a marginal candidate with an extreme rightwing conservative platform in a healthy economy.

I think my option is much more likely
 
Sarah's Plan To Win.

First off, Sarah is very centrist, but she has to win the Primaries, which are just three small states, Iowa, NH, and SC, as all do, and to win those three small states she has to out Conservative everyone else in those three very small state primaries. She can, and will, do that.

Then comes the General Election which is a totally different ball game. There she must mollify all the centrists, moderates, including Independents, and Democrats that can be brought over. I think she is fully capable of doing that. She is a very practical woman politician. She has fought an won many elections already. Don't underestimate her as everyone always does. Then they get slammed.

And never doubt that she will get an enormous vote from Democrat women, just because she is "woman."
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Sarah's Plan To Win.

First off, Sarah is very centrist, but she has to win the Primaries, which are just three small states, Iowa, NH, and SC, as all do, and to win those three small states she has to out Conservative everyone else in those three very small state primaries. She can, and will, do that.

Then comes the General Election which is a totally different ball game. There she must mollify all the centrists, moderates, including Independents, and Democrats that can be brought over. I think she is fully capable of doing that. She is a very practical woman politician. She has fought an won many elections already. Don't underestimate her as everyone always does. Then they get slammed.

And never doubt that she will get an enormous vote from Democrat women, just because she is "woman."
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I should save some of your posts. Nah, I'm just not a vindictive person who will come back later and shove them in your face with an I-TOLD-YOU-SO postscript.
 
Sarah's Plan To Win.

First off, Sarah is very centrist, but she has to win the Primaries, which are just three small states, Iowa, NH, and SC, as all do, and to win those three small states she has to out Conservative everyone else in those three very small state primaries. She can, and will, do that.

Then comes the General Election which is a totally different ball game. There she must mollify all the centrists, moderates, including Independents, and Democrats that can be brought over. I think she is fully capable of doing that. She is a very practical woman politician. She has fought an won many elections already. Don't underestimate her as everyone always does. Then they get slammed.

And never doubt that she will get an enormous vote from Democrat women, just because she is "woman."
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I should save some of your posts. Nah, I'm just not a vindictive person who will come back later and shove them in your face with an I-TOLD-YOU-SO postscript.

Nothing is sure. I'm only saying what I believe will happen. I've been wrong before, when unforeseen things intervene.
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If the republicans win back the House and go into a lock down mode, the majority of Americans will be thankful that they will stop the bleeding in America. Most common sense everyday Joe's understand the term debt, and which way this administration is going.

If people did understand the Debt, we'd be much better off. The problem is, they don't. People want solutions, not grandstanding.

If the GOP wins in 2010, it has the potential to be a poison pill come 2012. If they're in lockdown mode, they'll be seen as the party of "NO!" instead of a party with answers and they will lose. Ask Bob Dole how well a midterm win transalted into a Presidential win. As Kerry how well running on a platform of "Anti That Other Guy" worked.

At some point you have to bring solutions to the table if you want to win the White House. A lockdown GOP House and Senate would completely undercut the campaign of anyone they'd want to run in 2012.
 
If the republicans win back the House and go into a lock down mode, the majority of Americans will be thankful that they will stop the bleeding in America. Most common sense everyday Joe's understand the term debt, and which way this administration is going.

If people did understand the Debt, we'd be much better off. The problem is, they don't. People want solutions, not grandstanding.

If the GOP wins in 2010, it has the potential to be a poison pill come 2012. If they're in lockdown mode, they'll be seen as the party of "NO!" instead of a party with answers and they will lose. Ask Bob Dole how well a midterm win transalted into a Presidential win. As Kerry how well running on a platform of "Anti That Other Guy" worked.

At some point you have to bring solutions to the table if you want to win the White House. A lockdown GOP House and Senate would completely undercut the campaign of anyone they'd want to run in 2012.

The republicans did bring solutions, the democrats just said "no, we'll do it our way", "You lost, get over it".
If the republicans do win the House in 2010, they probably will have enough solutions for Barry to veto. That won't bode well for him in 2012, or he will have to come back to the center as Clinton did. We'll see
 
If the republicans win back the House and go into a lock down mode, the majority of Americans will be thankful that they will stop the bleeding in America. Most common sense everyday Joe's understand the term debt, and which way this administration is going.

If people did understand the Debt, we'd be much better off. The problem is, they don't. People want solutions, not grandstanding.

If the GOP wins in 2010, it has the potential to be a poison pill come 2012. If they're in lockdown mode, they'll be seen as the party of "NO!" instead of a party with answers and they will lose. Ask Bob Dole how well a midterm win transalted into a Presidential win. As Kerry how well running on a platform of "Anti That Other Guy" worked.

At some point you have to bring solutions to the table if you want to win the White House. A lockdown GOP House and Senate would completely undercut the campaign of anyone they'd want to run in 2012.

The republicans did bring solutions, the democrats just said "no, we'll do it our way", "You lost, get over it".
If the republicans do win the House in 2010, they probably will have enough solutions for Barry to veto. That won't bode well for him in 2012, or he will have to come back to the center as Clinton did. We'll see

your definition of "solutions" is not what you think it is
 
If the republicans win back the House and go into a lock down mode, the majority of Americans will be thankful that they will stop the bleeding in America. Most common sense everyday Joe's understand the term debt, and which way this administration is going.

If people did understand the Debt, we'd be much better off. The problem is, they don't. People want solutions, not grandstanding.

If the GOP wins in 2010, it has the potential to be a poison pill come 2012. If they're in lockdown mode, they'll be seen as the party of "NO!" instead of a party with answers and they will lose. Ask Bob Dole how well a midterm win transalted into a Presidential win. As Kerry how well running on a platform of "Anti That Other Guy" worked.

At some point you have to bring solutions to the table if you want to win the White House. A lockdown GOP House and Senate would completely undercut the campaign of anyone they'd want to run in 2012.

people, much less politicians, wouldn't know a solution if it picked their nose for them. all anybody really knows how to do is grandstand, which is why they keep doing it.
 
The republicans did bring solutions, the democrats just said "no, we'll do it our way", "You lost, get over it".
If the republicans do win the House in 2010, they probably will have enough solutions for Barry to veto. That won't bode well for him in 2012, or he will have to come back to the center as Clinton did. We'll see

The DNC was absolutely desperate to get a Republican, any Republican on board. Look at how they trumpeted any GOP vote on even the procedural stuff.

The GOP didn't want to negotiate at all. They took the hardline "Zero GOP votes" line, and in the end got nothing. That stance was red meat for the Tea Party voters and their base, but it won't keep the moderates behind you.

2010 has the potential to backfire on the GOP if they win. Suppose they do start passing legislation meant to address the ills of the nation. Obama still has to sign it into law (No one is predicting veto proof majorities in even the best scenarios), so Obama now gets to run in 2012 on a bipartisan "Look what we did together!" platform.

If the GOP stonewalls, then Obama gets to run on a platform that paints the GOP as aloof and uncaring. Obstructionist and unwilling to actually address the issues facing you, the poor innocent citizen.

Either way, he wins.

A lot of folks here think that a 2010 election win for the GOP will mean Obama becomes a one term President. They need to ask Bob Dole what he thinks of that.
 
The republicans did bring solutions, the democrats just said "no, we'll do it our way", "You lost, get over it".
If the republicans do win the House in 2010, they probably will have enough solutions for Barry to veto. That won't bode well for him in 2012, or he will have to come back to the center as Clinton did. We'll see

The DNC was absolutely desperate to get a Republican, any Republican on board. Look at how they trumpeted any GOP vote on even the procedural stuff.

The GOP didn't want to negotiate at all. They took the hardline "Zero GOP votes" line, and in the end got nothing. That stance was red meat for the Tea Party voters and their base, but it won't keep the moderates behind you.

2010 has the potential to backfire on the GOP if they win. Suppose they do start passing legislation meant to address the ills of the nation. Obama still has to sign it into law (No one is predicting veto proof majorities in even the best scenarios), so Obama now gets to run in 2012 on a bipartisan "Look what we did together!" platform.

If the GOP stonewalls, then Obama gets to run on a platform that paints the GOP as aloof and uncaring. Obstructionist and unwilling to actually address the issues facing you, the poor innocent citizen.

Either way, he wins.

A lot of folks here think that a 2010 election win for the GOP will mean Obama becomes a one term President. They need to ask Bob Dole what he thinks of that.

The only thing they wanted was the GOP fall in line with the democrats, Dr.Traveler. The democrats think that the majority of Americans are as far left as obama is just rediculous. If you don't think so, just look how the Independents have left the barry camp. It's not because there is no public option or a single payer plan. They didn't think that barry was that far left. If barry loses the House and if he's smart.....I'm not so sure he is, he will have to move towards the center to be able to win in 2012. That's a fact.
 
The republicans did bring solutions, the democrats just said "no, we'll do it our way", "You lost, get over it".
If the republicans do win the House in 2010, they probably will have enough solutions for Barry to veto. That won't bode well for him in 2012, or he will have to come back to the center as Clinton did. We'll see

The DNC was absolutely desperate to get a Republican, any Republican on board. Look at how they trumpeted any GOP vote on even the procedural stuff.

The GOP didn't want to negotiate at all. They took the hardline "Zero GOP votes" line, and in the end got nothing. That stance was red meat for the Tea Party voters and their base, but it won't keep the moderates behind you.

2010 has the potential to backfire on the GOP if they win. Suppose they do start passing legislation meant to address the ills of the nation. Obama still has to sign it into law (No one is predicting veto proof majorities in even the best scenarios), so Obama now gets to run in 2012 on a bipartisan "Look what we did together!" platform.

If the GOP stonewalls, then Obama gets to run on a platform that paints the GOP as aloof and uncaring. Obstructionist and unwilling to actually address the issues facing you, the poor innocent citizen.

Either way, he wins.

A lot of folks here think that a 2010 election win for the GOP will mean Obama becomes a one term President. They need to ask Bob Dole what he thinks of that.

The only thing they wanted was the GOP fall in line with the democrats, Dr.Traveler. The democrats think that the majority of Americans are as far left as obama is just rediculous. If you don't think so, just look how the Independents have left the barry camp. It's not because there is no public option or a single payer plan. They didn't think that barry was that far left. If barry loses the House and if he's smart.....I'm not so sure he is, he will have to move towards the center to be able to win in 2012. That's a fact.

yep. It's precisely what Clinton did, however even Billy-Bob Clinton wasn't as extreme as Obama, albiet they both got their start in Politics from being a protester. (Call it field training for radical leftists). ;)
 
yep. It's precisely what Clinton did, however even Billy-Bob Clinton wasn't as extreme as Obama, albiet they both got their start in Politics from being a protester. (Call it field training for radical leftists). ;)

How, specifically, is Obama more "extreme" than Clinton?

Please be specific.
 
yep. It's precisely what Clinton did, however even Billy-Bob Clinton wasn't as extreme as Obama, albiet they both got their start in Politics from being a protester. (Call it field training for radical leftists). ;)

How, specifically, is Obama more "extreme" than Clinton?

Please be specific.

I'd be curious about this myself. Most of Obama's legislative agenda is driven by Pelosi and Reid's personal politics. His Executive policies are more in line with Bush than most of the more commonly cited "liberal" presidents.

My suspicion is that if Pelosi and Reid find themselves out of leadership positions, Obama will himself turn out to be far more moderate and centrist.
 
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One problem.....

Have you seen the stiffs the GOP has available to run against him?
Have you seen the economy in the last year?

Obama landslide in 2012

I want what this asshat's smoking.

Why do you even bother to post here?

None if your posts contain any legitimate thought. You don't make any points just make inane responses
 
I have no idea what is going to happen in 2012, and neither does anyone else, no matter what they say. But, if you are absolutely certain about what is going to happen, you can put your money where your mouth is and bet on it at Intrade.

Intrade Prediction Markets

Currently, the odds of winning the Presidential election are 41% for the Republicans and 58% for the Democrats. So if you are absolutely certain Obama is going to lose, you would be a fool not to put some real money down on the GOP.
 
Now that I have learned the ropes a bit on this forum, I know how to put people on ignore, and I now do. Any poster who uses profanity or talks ignorantly automatically goes on my ignore list. I now have 10 on there and will add others as I come across them. It feels real good to be able to X these pests out. They have forfeited their access to me by their own conduct. :eusa_pray:
 
yep. It's precisely what Clinton did, however even Billy-Bob Clinton wasn't as extreme as Obama, albiet they both got their start in Politics from being a protester. (Call it field training for radical leftists). ;)

How, specifically, is Obama more "extreme" than Clinton?

Please be specific.

How about hiring thousands of IRS agents to penalize and fine those Americans that don't want to buy his Obamacare?
 
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