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To prevent them from building nukes. Trump killed that deal, and by all reports, it was working.So what was the point of the Obama Iran deal?
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To prevent them from building nukes. Trump killed that deal, and by all reports, it was working.So what was the point of the Obama Iran deal?
You are the useful idiot Dimwingers rely on.To prevent them from building nukes. Trump killed that deal, and by all reports, it was working.
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You really are clueless.Prove it.
What countries in the region supported the deal?It was a peaceful solution to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran and/or potential regional conflict. One not based on trust but through a verification process.
THE GULF COOPERATION COUNCIL: On August 3, all six members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) – Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates – publically endorsed the Iran nuclear deal during a visit to the region by Secretary of State John Kerry. Speaking on behalf of the Council, Qatari Foreign Minister Khalid bin Mohammed al- Attiyah said of the deal: “This was the best option among other options — to come up with a solution . . . through dialogue…We are confident that all the efforts that have been exerted make this region very secure, very stable.”What countries in the region supported the deal?
BS thats what Obama was like his red line in the sand. His deal was a failure and Iran made a fool out of him.
After trump's ill-fated, reckless decision to withdraw from the JCPOA, eventually causing this war, he said he would negotiate a better deal. He failed. With the US imposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran, the offer of lifting sanctions being what brought it to the negotiating table in the first place, it announced it would withdraw from the agreement on May 8, 2019. Exactly 1 year after Don essentially killed it.
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A timeline of tensions over Iran's nuclear program as talks with U.S. approach
Iran and the United States are due to hold new talks in Geneva on Thursday over Tehran's nuclear program.www.pbs.org
In response, Obama made a prediction.
Trump says U.S. pulling out of ‘rotten’ nuclear deal
The move makes good on Trump’s insistence that the deal was too generous, allowing Iran to keep a mostly dormant nuclear program that Trump said could quickly produce a nuclear bomb once the deal’s provisions expire in the middle of the next decade.
But it further strains relations with key European allies, who have spent months urging Trump to sustain the agreement. It also came over the opposition of China and Russia, which were also parties to the 2015 deal.
And it drew an unusual public rebuke from former President Barack Obama himself, who invoked the specter of military conflict.
“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.
Many former Obama administration officials suspect that Trump’s decision was, in part personal — that he was motivated by a desire to gut Obama’s foreign policy legacy. Obama aides, including former Secretary of State John Kerry, spent years pushing sanctions and hundreds of hours painstakingly negotiating the deal over some 18 months, and Trump’s decision left some of them dejected.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, meanwhile, said he had ordered his foreign minister to begin negotiating with other countries to salvage the deal, according to The Associated Press. He added that if those talks fail, Iran will once against enrich uranium “more than before … in the next weeks.”
But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — a vociferous critic of the deal who calls Iran an existential threat to his country — praised Trump’s “bold decision.”
Naturally, trump apologists have made all manner of factually incorrect allegations about the agreement made in 2015 designed to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. They amount to nothing more than a parroting of trump's lies about the adequacy of the JCPOA. Ultimately, Obama's comments following the withdrawal have proven to be prescient. So too Hillary's comments about trump's lack of fitness to lead the nation. If only we had listened.
Obama has no room to talk about the Middle East after his Presidency. It is pot, meet kettle.After trump's ill-fated, reckless decision to withdraw from the JCPOA, eventually causing this war, he said he would negotiate a better deal. He failed. With the US imposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran, the offer of lifting sanctions being what brought it to the negotiating table in the first place, it announced it would withdraw from the agreement on May 8, 2019. Exactly 1 year after Don essentially killed it.
![]()
A timeline of tensions over Iran's nuclear program as talks with U.S. approach
Iran and the United States are due to hold new talks in Geneva on Thursday over Tehran's nuclear program.www.pbs.org
In response, Obama made a prediction.
Trump says U.S. pulling out of ‘rotten’ nuclear deal
The move makes good on Trump’s insistence that the deal was too generous, allowing Iran to keep a mostly dormant nuclear program that Trump said could quickly produce a nuclear bomb once the deal’s provisions expire in the middle of the next decade.
But it further strains relations with key European allies, who have spent months urging Trump to sustain the agreement. It also came over the opposition of China and Russia, which were also parties to the 2015 deal.
And it drew an unusual public rebuke from former President Barack Obama himself, who invoked the specter of military conflict.
“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.
Many former Obama administration officials suspect that Trump’s decision was, in part personal — that he was motivated by a desire to gut Obama’s foreign policy legacy. Obama aides, including former Secretary of State John Kerry, spent years pushing sanctions and hundreds of hours painstakingly negotiating the deal over some 18 months, and Trump’s decision left some of them dejected.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, meanwhile, said he had ordered his foreign minister to begin negotiating with other countries to salvage the deal, according to The Associated Press. He added that if those talks fail, Iran will once against enrich uranium “more than before … in the next weeks.”
But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — a vociferous critic of the deal who calls Iran an existential threat to his country — praised Trump’s “bold decision.”
Naturally, trump apologists have made all manner of factually incorrect allegations about the agreement made in 2015 designed to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. They amount to nothing more than a parroting of trump's lies about the adequacy of the JCPOA. Ultimately, Obama's comments following the withdrawal have proven to be prescient. So too Hillary's comments about trump's lack of fitness to lead the nation. If only we had listened.
1) It did NIT prevent a nuclear-armed Iran. It delayed it a few years.It was a peaceful solution to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran and/or potential regional conflict. One not based on trust but through a verification process.
When this was first reported, I wondered why Obama didn’t make the release of the hostages a part of the “deal.”
Because under Biden Russia was sanctioned where they had to sell their oil at a discount. Such as if oil was selling for $49 a barrel, And it cost them $39 a barrel to get the oil out of the ground, and to market. Russia was capped at selling it for $44 a barrel. So they were only able to make a few dollars per barrel in profit.Now you are worried about Putin making money off selling energy?
You didn’t care when xiden let them own Europe and build their pipeline Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline
And five NATO/EU countries along with the UN. Who, even after Trump withdrew, kept Iran in compliance for another year, waiting for Trump to make a better deal.1) It did NIT prevent a nuclear-armed Iran. It delayed it a few years.
2) It was so bad that Obama classified it as a “deal” - rather than a treaty which it actually was - in order to bypass the wishes of American voters and skip Congressional approval. He instead brought it to the anti-Israel, pro- Arab U.N.
And Iran continued to enrich uranium to nuclear levels - so what “compliance” are you talking about?And five NATO/EU countries along with the UN. Who, even after Trump withdrew, kept Iran in compliance for another year, waiting for Trump to make a better deal.
So you had no problem with Biden waiving sanctions so Russia could sell more natural gasBecause under Biden Russia was sanctioned where they had to sell their oil at a discount. Such as if oil was selling for $49 a barrel, And it cost them $39 a barrel to get the oil out of the ground, and to market. Russia was capped at selling it for $44 a barrel. So they were only able to make a few dollars per barrel in profit.
Now with no sanctions and oil at $95 a barrel, Russia was making over 10 times as much money. That's over 1,000% more.
Or enough money to buy over 3,000 long range drones per DAY, that they could launch at Ukraine.
It delayed it for at least 15 years. Giving the next presidents time to make a bigger and better deal.1) It did NIT prevent a nuclear-armed Iran. It delayed it a few years.
If it was so great, why was Obama afraid to present it to Congress and let the people vote on it? Why bypass us and bring it to the pro-Arab, anti-Jew U.N.?It delayed it for at least 15 years. Giving the next presidents time to make a bigger and better deal.