Not surprisingly, Obama nailed it.

Are you kidding. It was the court that Americans held hostage could sue Iran for damages, and they won hundreds of millions.
Actually no, us citizens were awarded damages from Iran in US courts







And that money Obama gave Iran could have gone to them, but he didn’t care
 
After trump's ill-fated, reckless decision to withdraw from the JCPOA, eventually causing this war, he said he would negotiate a better deal. He failed. With the US imposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran, the offer of lifting sanctions being what brought it to the negotiating table in the first place, it announced it would withdraw from the agreement on May 8, 2019. Exactly 1 year after Don essentially killed it.


In response, Obama made a prediction.

Trump says U.S. pulling out of ‘rotten’ nuclear deal​

The move makes good on Trump’s insistence that the deal was too generous, allowing Iran to keep a mostly dormant nuclear program that Trump said could quickly produce a nuclear bomb once the deal’s provisions expire in the middle of the next decade.

But it further strains relations with key European allies, who have spent months urging Trump to sustain the agreement. It also came over the opposition of China and Russia, which were also parties to the 2015 deal.

And it drew an unusual public rebuke from former President Barack Obama himself, who invoked the specter of military conflict.

“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.

Many former Obama administration officials suspect that Trump’s decision was, in part personal — that he was motivated by a desire to gut Obama’s foreign policy legacy.
Obama aides, including former Secretary of State John Kerry, spent years pushing sanctions and hundreds of hours painstakingly negotiating the deal over some 18 months, and Trump’s decision left some of them dejected.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, meanwhile, said he had ordered his foreign minister to begin negotiating with other countries to salvage the deal, according to The Associated Press. He added that if those talks fail, Iran will once against enrich uranium “more than before … in the next weeks.”

But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — a vociferous critic of the deal who calls Iran an existential threat to his country — praised Trump’s “bold decision.”


Naturally, trump apologists have made all manner of factually incorrect allegations about the agreement made in 2015 designed to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. They amount to nothing more than a parroting of trump's lies about the adequacy of the JCPOA. Ultimately, Obama's comments following the withdrawal have proven to be prescient. So too Hillary's comments about trump's lack of fitness to lead the nation. If only we had listened.
Not surprisingly, another Berg TDS thread.
 
After trump's ill-fated, reckless decision to withdraw from the JCPOA, eventually causing this war, he said he would negotiate a better deal. He failed. With the US imposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran, the offer of lifting sanctions being what brought it to the negotiating table in the first place, it announced it would withdraw from the agreement on May 8, 2019. Exactly 1 year after Don essentially killed it.


In response, Obama made a prediction.

Trump says U.S. pulling out of ‘rotten’ nuclear deal​

The move makes good on Trump’s insistence that the deal was too generous, allowing Iran to keep a mostly dormant nuclear program that Trump said could quickly produce a nuclear bomb once the deal’s provisions expire in the middle of the next decade.

But it further strains relations with key European allies, who have spent months urging Trump to sustain the agreement. It also came over the opposition of China and Russia, which were also parties to the 2015 deal.

And it drew an unusual public rebuke from former President Barack Obama himself, who invoked the specter of military conflict.

“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.

Many former Obama administration officials suspect that Trump’s decision was, in part personal — that he was motivated by a desire to gut Obama’s foreign policy legacy.
Obama aides, including former Secretary of State John Kerry, spent years pushing sanctions and hundreds of hours painstakingly negotiating the deal over some 18 months, and Trump’s decision left some of them dejected.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, meanwhile, said he had ordered his foreign minister to begin negotiating with other countries to salvage the deal, according to The Associated Press. He added that if those talks fail, Iran will once against enrich uranium “more than before … in the next weeks.”

But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — a vociferous critic of the deal who calls Iran an existential threat to his country — praised Trump’s “bold decision.”


Naturally, trump apologists have made all manner of factually incorrect allegations about the agreement made in 2015 designed to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. They amount to nothing more than a parroting of trump's lies about the adequacy of the JCPOA. Ultimately, Obama's comments following the withdrawal have proven to be prescient. So too Hillary's comments about trump's lack of fitness to lead the nation. If only we had listened.
I agree with Obama. Either war with Iran or a nuclear armed Iran. Which do YOU prefer?
 
Iran took the money, proliferated nukes and funded proxies to attack US. That’s a failure
A decade later, the Trump administration is on the defensive as it tries to justify temporarily lifting sanctions on 140 million barrels of Iranian oil that is currently sitting at sea. With oil prices hovering around $100 a barrel, the sanctions relief, which is intended to boost global supplies of crude to ease energy prices, could give Iran a $14 billion windfall at the same time the United States is waging a war on the country.

Iran only began ramping up it's nuclear program AFTER Dotard pulled the US out of the agreement.
 
A decade later, the Trump administration is on the defensive as it tries to justify temporarily lifting sanctions on 140 million barrels of Iranian oil that is currently sitting at sea. With oil prices hovering around $100 a barrel, the sanctions relief, which is intended to boost global supplies of crude to ease energy prices, could give Iran a $14 billion windfall at the same time the United States is waging a war on the country.

Iran only began ramping up it's nuclear program AFTER Dotard pulled the US out of the agreement.
That’s not true, Iran has been in violation other NPT for decades

The only oil allowed to be sold now is the oil at sea, the money won’t got to the regime, that’s finally dying
 
Obama could have kept it, but the international tribunal set up to handle cases from the Algiers accords that freed the hostages, ruled that the US had to give the money back.
I would agree with that decision. They were the recognized government. Whether we liked that or not really doesnt matter. We shouldnt be allowed to steal another country's money because we arent boys anymore.
 
I agree with Obama. Either war with Iran or a nuclear armed Iran. Which do YOU prefer?
“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.

Disingenuous much?
 
How exactly did Iran proliferate nuclear weapons technology they dont have?
You have to ignore the US intel agency's assessment, the IAEA's assessment, and the assessment of the scientific community........

Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say

Confusion on whether Iran truly needed only “two weeks to four weeks” to make a nuclear weapon, as President Donald Trump suggested on Monday, hangs over the ongoing U.S. and Israeli war on the Persian Gulf nation. Nuclear experts call this claim unlikely—but the confusion may stem from some basics of atomic chemistry.

“There was no evidence that Iran was close to a nuclear weapon,” says Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies. His comment echoed those of other experts after the war’s start, as well as statements from International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Rafael Grossi at that time and in 2025 and last year’s “threat assessment” report by U.S. intelligence agencies.

According to an IAEA estimate, as of June 2025, Iran possessed 441 kilograms of 60 percent enriched uranium, where the percentage refers to the share of the isotope uranium 235 (U 235) found in the material. That would be enough for 10 nuclear weapons if the material could be enriched further to full 90 percent weapons-grade concentrations, according to the IAEA. That further enrichment would take a matter of weeks in a fully functioning Iranian nuclear complex, perhaps explaining the time line within Trump’s declaration.

That step alone doesn’t equal a bomb, however. And Iran’s main enrichment capabilities were “completely and totally obliterated,” according to Trump himself in June, after the U.S. bombed three underground Iranian facilities. The administration’s special envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff nonetheless claimed on March 3, after the start of the current war, that Iran had the capability to make 11 nuclear bombs. Trump administration officials reportedly failed to include nuclear technical experts in their negotiation teams with Iran prior to the war, adding to the uncertainty. If Iran really had rebuilt these facilities, that might have led—over months and not weeks—to the nation resuming its uranium enrichment, Lewis says. “But this is all ‘if,’ ‘maybe’ and ‘later,’” he adds.

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Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say

Although President Trump has claimed Iran was weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon, much more work was needed for the country to do so
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..............to believe Iran posed an imminent threat to the US.
 
“Without the [Iran deal], the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said in a lengthy statement.

Disingenuous much?
What was the Iran deal?
 
Ordinarily I'd assume any person who wrote that was feigning ignorance but with you...........................
I know what the deal was, but I want to hear your version. Go ahead.
 
It was a great deal for Iran

In return for abandoning their nuclear program, we loosened sanctions, returned seized assets and moderated relations with the west

Too bad Trump focked it up
You keep believing Iran abandoned nuclear programs.
 
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