Not Enough Rare Earth Minerals...The "Green Revolution" is Impossible

[Oddball]

Long and the short of the matter is that minerals like copper, nickel, and lithium, for starters, would have to be produced at levels that are mathematically impossible to meet the demand of the "green" Brave New World.


Before the video, here are a few screenshots from it. This one shows the principal metals needed for a wind and solar energy system, and compares those requirements with actual production of those commodities as of 2019, the last “normal” pre-covid year. Note that 189 years worth of copper production, 400 years of nickel production, 9,921 years of lithium production, 1,733 years of cobalt production, 29,113 years of germanium production, and so on, would be needed for the first 20 years of wind and solar installations. Then we would have to do it all over again. Talk about a lack of sustainability!

The “Green Revolution” Is Impossible

Liberals tell us that we are in the midst of a transition from fossil fuels to wind and solar energy. The reality is that no such transition is taking place, nor will it. This video by Professor Si…

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[JGalt]

Ecological sustainability is a pipe dream.

 

[Moonglow]

Isn't that why they are going to the Moon and Mars for more materials?

 

[Vrenn]

Long and the short of the matter is that minerals like copper, nickel, and lithium, for starters, would have to be produced at levels that are mathematically impossible to meet the demand of the "green" Brave New World.


Before the video, here are a few screenshots from it. This one shows the principal metals needed for a wind and solar energy system, and compares those requirements with actual production of those commodities as of 2019, the last “normal” pre-covid year. Note that 189 years worth of copper production, 400 years of nickel production, 9,921 years of lithium production, 1,733 years of cobalt production, 29,113 years of germanium production, and so on, would be needed for the first 20 years of wind and solar installations. Then we would have to do it all over again. Talk about a lack of sustainability!

The “Green Revolution” Is Impossible

Liberals tell us that we are in the midst of a transition from fossil fuels to wind and solar energy. The reality is that no such transition is taking place, nor will it. This video by Professor Si…

www.powerlineblog.com

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MAGA strikes again. I happen to know that there are lithium fields all through the western US states that have yet to be tapped. This whole thing you present is gaslighting at it's worst.

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[Oddball]

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MAGA strikes again. I happen to know that there are lithium fields all through the western US states that have yet to be tapped. This whole thing you present is gaslighting at it's worst.

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Refute the numbers and statistics, loser.

 

[Manonthestreet]

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MAGA strikes again. I happen to know that there are lithium fields all through the western US states that have yet to be tapped. This whole thing you present is gaslighting at it's worst.

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Mining destroys mother earth,,,,cant do that.

 

[Vrenn]

Refute the numbers and statistics, loser.

I don't have to. The figures may or may not be correct for a shot term. But it's the way it's presented which is wrong from a site that is known to lie out it's ass. And you are also known to buy the lie and defend it. I would rather be an occasional loser than a full time liar like you are.l

 

[shockedcanadian]

Regardless, they are putting the cart before the horse. You don't force a shift, you introduce alternatives and if the shift makes sense society will embrace it. It appears that "climate change" (the current term being promoted and accepted) is the catch phrase for any and all forced changes.

It will be interesting when someone wants to drive a vehicle across a country and needs to constantly find a charger. The energy needs of the world will be addressed by nations interested in legitimate harnessing of solar, wind etc and not looking for a "you must dispose and buy a replacement" model.

 

[Oddball]

I don't have to. The figures may or may not be correct for a shot term. But it's the way it's presented which is wrong from a site that is known to lie out it's ass. And you are also known to buy the lie and defend it. I would rather be an occasional loser than a full time liar like you are.l

So you cannot refute the numbers and statistics presented.

Your capitulation is accepted.

 

[Vrenn]

Mining destroys mother earth,,,,cant do that.

Have you ever been to the middle of the dessert of western states of the US? Outside of making sure that it has no affect on what little wildlife there, almost anything you do will be an improvement considering todays mining operations, by law, must leave the area in better condition than it was before.

 

[Oddball]

Nah, we heard that there were beings that were so white they are invisible and we need to bring the property values by making sure that we have something other than an all white and male crew. Then, the next rocket will be filled with Realtors who will drive the property values back up making the Billionaires billions more.

 

[Vrenn]

Regardless, they are putting the cart before the horse. You don't force a shift, you introduce alternatives and if the shift makes sense society will embrace it. It appears that "climate change" (the current term being promoted and accepted) is the catch phrase for any and all forced changes.

It will be interesting when someone wants to drive a vehicle across a country and needs to constantly find a charger. The energy needs of the world will be addressed by nations interested in legitimate harnessing of solar, wind etc and not looking for a "you must dispose and buy a replacement" model.

You mean like the forced introduction of motor vehicles into NYC?

 

[Vrenn]

So you cannot refute the numbers and statistics presented.

Your capitulation is accepted.

lYah, and I can't personally disprove the big lie either. But common sense plays into things. Something you don't seem to have.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Have you ever been to the middle of the dessert of western states of the US? Outside of making sure that it has no affect on what little wildlife there, almost anything you do will be an improvement considering todays mining operations, by law, must leave the area in better condition than it was before.

Just quoting lib tripe. MN has huge amount of nickel needed for your green dream. The Dem Gov wont let them touch it. Everyone up north must work in tourism or gas stations and fast food. Real jobs not allowed

 

[jehanne1431]

I don't have to. The figures may or may not be correct for a shot term. But it's the way it's presented which is wrong from a site that is known to lie out it's ass. And you are also known to buy the lie and defend it. I would rather be an occasional loser than a full time liar like you are.l

Climate change induced by humanity is a political tool, nothing more, except it is of great harm to humanity and a means of power and control for the left.

Environmental extremism is another political ploy by the democrats. You do not see it that way because you want to hate the right. . And you do nothing to admit the horrors and lies and illegal spy investigations and scandals the democrats have been involved with. . Given that, your credibility is the one in question. . . (imo)

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Regardless, they are putting the cart before the horse. You don't force a shift, you introduce alternatives and if the shift makes sense society will embrace it. It appears that "climate change" (the current term being promoted and accepted) is the catch phrase for any and all forced changes.

It will be interesting when someone wants to drive a vehicle across a country and needs to constantly find a charger. The energy needs of the world will be addressed by nations interested in legitimate harnessing of solar, wind etc and not looking for a "you must dispose and buy a replacement" model.

Not to mention the current grid won't handle the dream

 

[petro]

Have you ever been to the middle of the dessert of western states of the US? Outside of making sure that it has no affect on what little wildlife there, almost anything you do will be an improvement considering todays mining operations, by law, must leave the area in better condition than it was before.

Where are you going to get the precious water needed for production?
Roughly 500,000 gallons of water goes into extracting 1 ton of lithium

 

[Yarddog]

Isn't that why they are going to the Moon and Mars for more materials?

get going!

 

[petro]

South America's 'lithium fields' reveal the dark side of electric cars

Demand for lithium-ion batteries is unprecedented - but is mining the chemical harmful to the environment?

www.euronews.com

Toxic pools will save the Earth.

 

[Yarddog]

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MAGA strikes again. I happen to know that there are lithium fields all through the western US states that have yet to be tapped. This whole thing you present is gaslighting at it's worst.

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• The U.S. Climate Reference Network[…] finds there has been no warming for the past 14 years at least – Inaccurate
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We would rather keep mining and pollution of the earth all in the 3rd world nations

To mine a ton of lithium it takes 2 million litres of water (according to this article) but Hey, its not like the western states have a water shortage problem or anything.

The side effects of lithium mining

Laura Grace Simpkins attempts to untangle some uncomfortable truths about the social and environmental costs of making her medication.

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