None of you are rich. Why are you defending billionaires?

Stockholm Syndrome

In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a real paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Conservatism for the nonwealthy in America is an irrational response whereby, instead of voting for one's self-interests, those less well-off in society often empathize with the one group that is largely responsible for placing them in their economic predicament.

The wealthy, in America, have done a masterful job of deflecting criticism away from themselves and "scapegoating" others (politicians, Washington, the poor, liberals, socialists, Democrats, the media, minorities, unions, teachers, etc).
 
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My take on the current difference between liberalism and conservatism is a contrasting view in what the function of government should be. Liberals currently see government as the solution to all problems and wish for it's power to increase. Conservatives see government an impediment to solving problems and wish for it's power to be contained.

I said contrast Conservatism with Libertarianism not Liberalism.

Liberals and Conservatives aren't much different. They're all anti-freedom one way or the other.

Liberal = Communist
Conservative = Fascist



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Actually you started out talking about Liberalism ("Liberalism: less economic freedom, more social freedom
Conservativsm: more economic freedom, less social freedoms") and then switched over to talking about Libertarianism like they were the same.

False. I didn't imply Libertarianism was the same, on the contrary it was implied that Libertarianism is different than both. I just brought up Libertarianism to show someone why Conservatism isn't about freedom so to demonstrate that I said contrast Conservatism with Libertarianism (a true ideology of freedom) to find out why Conservatism isn't about freedom.

I took it that you were confused by the two terms. Now I don't know what to think.

You're confused because I don't fall in line with the establishments false left-right paradigm.

So because I'm a fiscal conservative I'm also a fascist? That's absurd.

Depends. Do you believe in the entirety of Conservatism, or just the economic policies? If you're just fiscally Conservative and not socially, then what's your social policy views?

If you support fiscal Conservatism and social Liberalism, for the most part you're a Libertarian. But then why call yourself "Conservative?"


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RDean - If I give you some of my hard earned money (more than I already do in taxes that I pay, unlike you) will you STFU ?
 
RDean - we know why you defend Socialism. You don't want your Food Stamps taken away from you. Don't worry, once Perry is elected, people of your ilk will be cut off at the knees.

You are always making remarks insinuating that liberals don't work and collect every free dollar they can. Prove it. What is your source of reference?? If you don't have one, maybe you shouldn't make outrageous statements like that.

Can't speak for anyone but myself, but I started working a part time job when I was 16 years old. And I was still in school. When I finished school I got a good job and stayed with the company almost 30 years. Received several promotions and raises. I have a pension, social security, and a 401-K. How about you?? I'd love to know. YOU are probably the bum!!! I picture you to look just like the picture in your avi. Yuck!!
 
RDean - we know why you defend Socialism. You don't want your Food Stamps taken away from you. Don't worry, once Perry is elected, people of your ilk will be cut off at the knees.

You are always making remarks insinuating that liberals don't work and collect every free dollar they can. Prove it. What is your source of reference?? If you don't have one, maybe you shouldn't make outrageous statements like that.

Can't speak for anyone but myself, but I started working a part time job when I was 16 years old. And I was still in school. When I finished school I got a good job and stayed with the company almost 30 years. Received several promotions and raises. I have a pension, social security, and a 401-K. How about you?? I'd love to know. YOU are probably the bum!!! I picture you to look just like the picture in your avi. Yuck!!

(points to title of thread)
 
RDean - we know why you defend Socialism. You don't want your Food Stamps taken away from you. Don't worry, once Perry is elected, people of your ilk will be cut off at the knees.

You are always making remarks insinuating that liberals don't work and collect every free dollar they can. Prove it. What is your source of reference?? If you don't have one, maybe you shouldn't make outrageous statements like that.

Can't speak for anyone but myself, but I started working a part time job when I was 16 years old. And I was still in school. When I finished school I got a good job and stayed with the company almost 30 years. Received several promotions and raises. I have a pension, social security, and a 401-K. How about you?? I'd love to know. YOU are probably the bum!!! I picture you to look just like the picture in your avi. Yuck!!

Hey dumb shit - the idiot RDean makes BLANKET statements regarding Conservatives every day. I threw one in about Liberals in the middle of this BS thread to illustrate how assinine this tactic is.

Mind your own fucking business and lighten the fuck up, Alice.

And it's none of your damned business what I am worth or what I look like - so FOAD.
 
I said contrast Conservatism with Libertarianism not Liberalism.

Liberals and Conservatives aren't much different. They're all anti-freedom one way or the other.

Liberal = Communist
Conservative = Fascist


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go away

What an intelligent and insightful response. Sorry but "go away" is not gonna get you off the hook.

Since the elites have already conditioned your mind to be trapped in the establishment false left-right paradigm, it seems you just want to ignore anything that deviates from left-right paradigm. Your rulers are VERY pleased with you! Good for you.


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"...the establishment false left-right paradigm..."? Let me guess...you're one of those people that think using phrases like that one will make your viewpoint carry more weight? I've got bad news for you...only in academic circles are verbal gymnastics like that valued...out in the real world you get laughed at for being pompous and deliberately "obtuse" .
 
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RDean - we know why you defend Socialism. You don't want your Food Stamps taken away from you. Don't worry, once Perry is elected, people of your ilk will be cut off at the knees.

You are always making remarks insinuating that liberals don't work and collect every free dollar they can. Prove it. What is your source of reference?? If you don't have one, maybe you shouldn't make outrageous statements like that.

Can't speak for anyone but myself, but I started working a part time job when I was 16 years old. And I was still in school. When I finished school I got a good job and stayed with the company almost 30 years. Received several promotions and raises. I have a pension, social security, and a 401-K. How about you?? I'd love to know. YOU are probably the bum!!! I picture you to look just like the picture in your avi. Yuck!!

(points to title of thread)

Thanks -

She seems dense. Just like her pal RDean
 
I believe the Rich earned their money and they are the job creators. If you continue to tax them they will not hire . They already pay over 50% of the taxes collected in this country while others pay NOTHING.
 
I said contrast Conservatism with Libertarianism not Liberalism.

Liberals and Conservatives aren't much different. They're all anti-freedom one way or the other.

Liberal = Communist
Conservative = Fascist



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Actually you started out talking about Liberalism ("Liberalism: less economic freedom, more social freedom
Conservativsm: more economic freedom, less social freedoms") and then switched over to talking about Libertarianism like they were the same.

False. I didn't imply Libertarianism was the same, on the contrary it was implied that Libertarianism is different than both. I just brought up Libertarianism to show someone why Conservatism isn't about freedom so to demonstrate that I said contrast Conservatism with Libertarianism (a true ideology of freedom) to find out why Conservatism isn't about Libertarianism.

I took it that you were confused by the two terms. Now I don't know what to think.

You're confused because I don't fall in line with the establishments false left-right paradigm.

So because I'm a fiscal conservative I'm also a fascist? That's absurd.

Depends. Do you believe in the entirety of Conservatism, or just the economic policies? If you're just fiscally Conservative and not socially, then what's your social policy views?

If you support fiscal Conservatism and social Liberalism, for the most part you're a Libertarian. But then why call yourself "Conservative?"


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The only people that believe in the "entirety of Conservatism" are people like you who believe "your" take on what being a conservative means.

I call myself a conservative because unlike you I understand that conservatism embodies a wide range of individual view points.
 
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