Non-Monogamy Growing in Acceptance and Popularity

[Moonglow]

I'm staying away from STD's by being monogamous and doing normal human behavior and being married to one woman Moonglow !!

You're married to Moonglow?

Oh bloody hell...

 

[Vigilante]

Yes, the manipulation of young minds by the perverts, subversives, and outright Communists that are a vast majority of college professors has taken a dire toll on our society and culture.

 

[Moonglow]

Yes, the manipulation of young minds by the perverts, subversives, and outright Communists that are a vast majority of college professors has taken a dire toll on our society and culture.

At your age what does it matter, you are out of the game.....

 

[Vigilante]

Yes, the manipulation of young minds by the perverts, subversives, and outright Communists that are a vast majority of college professors has taken a dire toll on our society and culture.

At your age what does it matter, you are out of the game.....

Unlike you who is sterile,(Thank GOD!) I have children and grandchildren that this will affect!

 

[Moonglow]

Yes, the manipulation of young minds by the perverts, subversives, and outright Communists that are a vast majority of college professors has taken a dire toll on our society and culture.

At your age what does it matter, you are out of the game.....

Unlike you who is sterile,(Thank GOD!) I have children and grandchildren that this will affect!

They make their own choices, I doubt you let that happen...

 

[Vigilante]

Yes, the manipulation of young minds by the perverts, subversives, and outright Communists that are a vast majority of college professors has taken a dire toll on our society and culture.

At your age what does it matter, you are out of the game.....

Unlike you who is sterile,(Thank GOD!) I have children and grandchildren that this will affect!

They make their own choices, I doubt you let that happen...

As a GOOD PARENT I GUIDE THEM with truth and morals....something you lack!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

he is KNOWN for those meltdowns Iceweasel , he is very sensitive to differing point of view and different opinions .

Tell you what....lets see if either one of you is capable of writing an opinion on the subject without calling anyone names, that presents a viewpoint that you can back up with logic and facts. Not holding my breath.

The facts of the matter are the subject was beaten to death earlier. And you obviously didn't like the feedback so now you're on a mission of sorts. I think if people were into swinging they would be doing it by now, with or without your blessings. I don't think it's something that one decides by way of message board opinions.

And yes, STDs are the downside to casual sex. Apart from psychological issues. To present nothing but good is a false narrative. And dangerous.

There has not been much about polyamory or swinging at all. Most gay marriage. I started this thread because I found the connection between these different things to be interesting. I am not interested in persuading anyone of anything. And many people are in fact into swinging . Again , If you read the whole OP you would know that.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Yes, the manipulation of young minds by the perverts, subversives, and outright Communists that are a vast majority of college professors has taken a dire toll on our society and culture.

Well that is certainly an interesting assertion! The vast majority of college professors are perverts, subversives, Communists AND they are responsible for the shifting norms and values about sex and relationships. No doubt that you would also include “liberals” Perhaps you can develop it further and provide some background and documentation. I would be very interested to see what you come up with.

Now I will agree that the gay rights movement was driven largely by left leaning folks for a long time, but leading up to the SCOTUS decision on marriage, many conservative and religious leaders got on board with it, having come to see that it was a human rights issue, that discrimination is bad for business, and that having all those anti-gay laws on the books contradicted their commitment to small, less intrusive government. In addition, many gay people identify as conservative.

Now as far as all of this other stuff goes, you’ll have to show me how any of it is some sort of conspiracy to manipulate young minds, as opposed to a natural progression and evolution in sexual behavior. Good luck!

PS: Are there really very many Communists still around?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Homosexual marriage ... You do realize, with the increase of bisexuality, that group marriage is next ... (?)?

My theory is simple. Without going into the morality (or immorality) of it all ... I think that soon people will express interest in group unions and will demand that they be legalized. I think this will probably begin with, say, two guys and a girl -- because initially, mutiple wives with one guy would not be... show more

 

[Luddly Neddite]

In recent years the issue of same sex marriage dominated the discussions about relationships and marriage. Other variations on traditional, one man, and one woman relationships only came up as slippery slope fear mongering in an attempt to thwart legalization of same sex marriage.

The fact is that the such practices as swinging, open relationships, polygamy and closed group (informal) marriage- also known as polyamory - have been part of the equation since long before same sex marriage ever became a serious issue.

At the same time, the acceptance and practice of varying forms of non-monogamy is not only growing but seems to be accelerating. One question that comes to mind is it a manifestation of the slippery slope to an “anything goes society” as the direct result of same sex marriage, or, is it a natural progression in the evolution of sexual norms and values that began with the sexual revolution. There is clearly a correlation between the advance of gay rights and these other changes, but I would not be too hasty to assign a cause and effect relationship.

In any case, here is a rundown on what has been happening in the world of non mon-monogamy

Polyamory By the Numbers Polyamory By the Numbers | Advocate.com

Selected excerpts :

From the pages of Time magazine to the rules of the new “Fallout” game, polyamory seems suddenly to be everywhere — and very present in the public consciousness.

When the Supreme Court extended marriage equality to same-sex couples in all 50 states, Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum mused that same-sex marriage might soon lead to marriages of three people or more. Polyamory.

Also known as “consensual non-monogamy,” polyamory comes in a number of flavors, including swinging, polyfidelity, open relationships, and relationship anarchy. It is sometimes lumped in with polygamy — a tradition of husbands taking on multiple wives

Exact numbers for individuals practicing non-monogamy can be maddeningly hard to come by. But most researchers estimate that a full 4–5 percent of Americans participate in some form of ethical non-monogamy. In her Psychology Today blog post on May 9, 2014, Elisabeth Sheff relates the findings of independent Australian academic Kelly Cookson:

“It appears that sexually non-monogamous couples in the United States number in the millions. Estimates based on actually trying sexual non-monogamy are around 1.2 to 2.4 million. An estimate based solely on the agreement to allow satellite lovers is around 9.8 million. These millions include poly couples, swinging couples, gay male couples, and other sexually non-monogamous couples.”

In the court of public opinion, however, not all consensual non-monogamous relationships are created equal. A paper published online in September 2013 in the journal Psychology & Sexuality found that those in polyamorous relationships are seen in a more positive light than either swingers or those in open relationships. In 13 different areas there were significant perceived differences between the three consensual non-monogamy strategies under scrutiny. Those in polyamorous relationships were regarded as more moral, more motivated by duty (rather than pleasure), and more family-oriented than swingers and those in open

With low levels of acceptance around polygamy and the general population’s lack of understanding of or knowledge about polyamory, it might be tempting to dismiss the possibility that three people (or more) could be legally wed in the United States, but in 2001 support for same-sex marriage in this country was around 40 percent. Now it’s 60 percent.

And then there was this recent article:

OkCupid Makes an Appeal to the Polyamorous OkCupid Makes an Appeal to the Polyamorous | Advocate.com

Online dating site OkCupid is launching a new feature aimed at the polyamorous.

Starting today, users who are listed as “seeing someone,” “married,” or “in an open relationship” will be able link their profile to their partner’s and search for others to participate in their relationship, reports The Atlantic. It has been available to some users on a trial basis since last month.

The move comes in response to increased interest in nonmonogamous relationships, The Atlantic notes. Twenty-four percent of OkCupid users indicate they are “seriously interested” in group sex, and 42 percent say they would consider dating someone who is already in an open or polyamorous relationship; both figures are up eight percentage points from five years ago. The proportion of users who say they are strictly monogamous has fallen from 56 percent to 44 percent over the same period.

OkCupid’s new feature is groundbreaking, The Atlantic notes. “Though specialized dating sites for polyamorous people exist, this appears to be the first instance of a mainstream online-dating platform allowing two users to search for sexual partners together, as a unit,” the publication reports.

As stated earlier, these practices have been around a while. The Polyamory Societywas formed in 1996

Polyamory is the nonpossessive, honest, responsible and ethical philosophy and practice of loving multiple people simultanously. Polyamory emphasizes consciously choosing how many partners one wishes to be involved with rather than accepting social norms which dictate loving only one person at a time. Polyamory is an umbrella term which integrates traditional mutipartner relationship terms with more evolved egalitarian terms. Polyamory embraces sexual equality and all sexual orientations towards an expanded circle of spousal intimacy and love. Polyamory is from the root words Poly meaning many and Amour meaning love hence "many loves" or Polyamory. Of course, love itself is a rather ambiguous term, but most polys seem to define it as a serious, intimate, romantic, or less stable, affectionate bond which a person has with another person or group of persons. This bond usually, though not necessarily always, involves sex. Sexualove or eromance are other words which have been coined to describe this kind of love. Other terms often used as synonyms for polyamory are responsible, ethical or intentional non-monogamy. Polyamory Society

And for those who want to engage in a less formal and binding form of non-monogamy, there is swinging:

The Swinging Facts The Swinging Facts

Swinging, also called the alternative or 'alt' lifestyle, seems to be increasingly popular among mainstream, middle-aged married couples in America.

With this increasing number of people who are into the lifestyle there is also a growing need for interactive ways to meet similar thinking couples. They find the internet to be the ultimate way to interaction. Distance is no longer an issue to meet similar thinking others because of the increasing number of lifestyle lovers who join a worldwide swingers community such as http://www.sdc.com.

So there you have it. It’s a changing world. Each of us has the choice to embrace it or to fight it.

Or option 3: shrug shoulders 'cuz it doesn't have anything to do with me and I don't care.

This is one of those things that if you don't know who you are going in then you will dang sure know who you are going out.

IF it concerns consenting adults, I agree - not my business and I don't care. But, I do believe we have an obligation to protect children.

Needless to say, I believe we also need to protect children from abuse in the "one man/one woman" marriage the nutters supposedly hold so dear.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

In recent years the issue of same sex marriage dominated the discussions about relationships and marriage. Other variations on traditional, one man, and one woman relationships only came up as slippery slope fear mongering in an attempt to thwart legalization of same sex marriage.

The fact is that the such practices as swinging, open relationships, polygamy and closed group (informal) marriage- also known as polyamory - have been part of the equation since long before same sex marriage ever became a serious issue.

At the same time, the acceptance and practice of varying forms of non-monogamy is not only growing but seems to be accelerating. One question that comes to mind is it a manifestation of the slippery slope to an “anything goes society” as the direct result of same sex marriage, or, is it a natural progression in the evolution of sexual norms and values that began with the sexual revolution. There is clearly a correlation between the advance of gay rights and these other changes, but I would not be too hasty to assign a cause and effect relationship.

In any case, here is a rundown on what has been happening in the world of non mon-monogamy

Polyamory By the Numbers Polyamory By the Numbers | Advocate.com

Selected excerpts :

From the pages of Time magazine to the rules of the new “Fallout” game, polyamory seems suddenly to be everywhere — and very present in the public consciousness.

When the Supreme Court extended marriage equality to same-sex couples in all 50 states, Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum mused that same-sex marriage might soon lead to marriages of three people or more. Polyamory.

Also known as “consensual non-monogamy,” polyamory comes in a number of flavors, including swinging, polyfidelity, open relationships, and relationship anarchy. It is sometimes lumped in with polygamy — a tradition of husbands taking on multiple wives

Exact numbers for individuals practicing non-monogamy can be maddeningly hard to come by. But most researchers estimate that a full 4–5 percent of Americans participate in some form of ethical non-monogamy. In her Psychology Today blog post on May 9, 2014, Elisabeth Sheff relates the findings of independent Australian academic Kelly Cookson:

“It appears that sexually non-monogamous couples in the United States number in the millions. Estimates based on actually trying sexual non-monogamy are around 1.2 to 2.4 million. An estimate based solely on the agreement to allow satellite lovers is around 9.8 million. These millions include poly couples, swinging couples, gay male couples, and other sexually non-monogamous couples.”

In the court of public opinion, however, not all consensual non-monogamous relationships are created equal. A paper published online in September 2013 in the journal Psychology & Sexuality found that those in polyamorous relationships are seen in a more positive light than either swingers or those in open relationships. In 13 different areas there were significant perceived differences between the three consensual non-monogamy strategies under scrutiny. Those in polyamorous relationships were regarded as more moral, more motivated by duty (rather than pleasure), and more family-oriented than swingers and those in open

With low levels of acceptance around polygamy and the general population’s lack of understanding of or knowledge about polyamory, it might be tempting to dismiss the possibility that three people (or more) could be legally wed in the United States, but in 2001 support for same-sex marriage in this country was around 40 percent. Now it’s 60 percent.

And then there was this recent article:

OkCupid Makes an Appeal to the Polyamorous OkCupid Makes an Appeal to the Polyamorous | Advocate.com

Online dating site OkCupid is launching a new feature aimed at the polyamorous.

Starting today, users who are listed as “seeing someone,” “married,” or “in an open relationship” will be able link their profile to their partner’s and search for others to participate in their relationship, reports The Atlantic. It has been available to some users on a trial basis since last month.

The move comes in response to increased interest in nonmonogamous relationships, The Atlantic notes. Twenty-four percent of OkCupid users indicate they are “seriously interested” in group sex, and 42 percent say they would consider dating someone who is already in an open or polyamorous relationship; both figures are up eight percentage points from five years ago. The proportion of users who say they are strictly monogamous has fallen from 56 percent to 44 percent over the same period.

OkCupid’s new feature is groundbreaking, The Atlantic notes. “Though specialized dating sites for polyamorous people exist, this appears to be the first instance of a mainstream online-dating platform allowing two users to search for sexual partners together, as a unit,” the publication reports.

As stated earlier, these practices have been around a while. The Polyamory Societywas formed in 1996

Polyamory is the nonpossessive, honest, responsible and ethical philosophy and practice of loving multiple people simultanously. Polyamory emphasizes consciously choosing how many partners one wishes to be involved with rather than accepting social norms which dictate loving only one person at a time. Polyamory is an umbrella term which integrates traditional mutipartner relationship terms with more evolved egalitarian terms. Polyamory embraces sexual equality and all sexual orientations towards an expanded circle of spousal intimacy and love. Polyamory is from the root words Poly meaning many and Amour meaning love hence "many loves" or Polyamory. Of course, love itself is a rather ambiguous term, but most polys seem to define it as a serious, intimate, romantic, or less stable, affectionate bond which a person has with another person or group of persons. This bond usually, though not necessarily always, involves sex. Sexualove or eromance are other words which have been coined to describe this kind of love. Other terms often used as synonyms for polyamory are responsible, ethical or intentional non-monogamy. Polyamory Society

And for those who want to engage in a less formal and binding form of non-monogamy, there is swinging:

The Swinging Facts The Swinging Facts

Swinging, also called the alternative or 'alt' lifestyle, seems to be increasingly popular among mainstream, middle-aged married couples in America.

With this increasing number of people who are into the lifestyle there is also a growing need for interactive ways to meet similar thinking couples. They find the internet to be the ultimate way to interaction. Distance is no longer an issue to meet similar thinking others because of the increasing number of lifestyle lovers who join a worldwide swingers community such as http://www.sdc.com.

So there you have it. It’s a changing world. Each of us has the choice to embrace it or to fight it.

Or option 3: shrug shoulders 'cuz it doesn't have anything to do with me and I don't care.

This is one of those things that if you don't know who you are going in then you will dang sure know who you are going out.

IF it concerns consenting adults, I agree - not my business and I don't care. But, I do believe we have an obligation to protect children.

Needless to say, I believe we also need to protect children from abuse in the "one man/one woman" marriage the nutters supposedly hold so dear.

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

 

[Bonzi]

A Christian prospective needs to be added as well.

A stable and committed 2 person (male/female) household where vows are honored and commitment is valued will give you the best possibility of a strong family unit, and thus, a strong individual. If you have no belief in God or no conviction about this, obviously, it should not be forced on you. Even God says we have free will. But there are prices to pay. We always think we know what is best for us, but, again, from a Christian viewpoint, our ways are always flawed and not for our best, no matter what we think.

 

[saveliberty]

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

Do as I say, not as I do?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

A Christian prospective needs to be added as well.

A stable and committed 2 person (male/female) household where vows are honored and commitment is valued will give you the best possibility of a strong family unit, and thus, a strong individual. If you have no belief in God or no conviction about this, obviously, it should not be forced on you. Even God says we have free will. But there are prices to pay. We always think we know what is best for us, but, again, from a Christian viewpoint, our ways are always flawed and not for our best, no matter what we think.

You are entitled to your Christian perspective, but a vast body of scientific evidence shows that what is most important for the intellectual and emotional development of children is the quality of the relationship with the parents and the stability of the family whatever form it takes. The notion that family structure and/or the gender of the parents in relationship to each other is important has been thoroughly debunked . States trying to use junk science that says differently, to fight same sex marriage , have been kicked out of courts on numerous occasions.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

Do as I say, not as I do?

Would you care to elaborate ?

 

[saveliberty]

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

Do as I say, not as I do?

Would you care to elaborate ?

No, you are well aware of exactly what I am saying. The reality is families are suffering and have for a long time. It is reflected in school test scores, crime, divorce and many other measures. It is all rooted in the attacks on the nuclear family by people who would like to believe all this foolishness has no impact.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

Do as I say, not as I do?

Would you care to elaborate ?

No, you are well aware of exactly what I am saying. The reality is families are suffering and have for a long time. It is reflected in school test scores, crime, divorce and many other measures. It is all rooted in the attacks on the nuclear family by people who would like to believe all this foolishness has no impact.

That does not really explain your comment at all. No one is attacking the nuclear family. Anyone who wants a traditional family is free to have one, and I support that. But the definition and structure of the family is evolving and has been evolving for a long time. Those who want or have a non traditional family are equally entitled to it. I stand by what I said in post 54. Feel free to try to refute it.

 

[saveliberty]

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

Do as I say, not as I do?

Would you care to elaborate ?

No, you are well aware of exactly what I am saying. The reality is families are suffering and have for a long time. It is reflected in school test scores, crime, divorce and many other measures. It is all rooted in the attacks on the nuclear family by people who would like to believe all this foolishness has no impact.

That does not really explain your comment at all. No one is attacking the nuclear family. Anyone who wants a traditional family is free to have one, and I support that. But the definition and structure of the family is evolving and has been evolving for a long time. Those who want or have a non traditional family are equally entitled to it. I stand by what I said in post 54. Feel free to try to refute it.

I just did in post #56. History is an excellent teacher if you let it.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I could not agreed more. I am a strong advocate for protecting children's physical and emotional well being. I had a long career in child protective services and fully understand to need to ensure that children are not exposed to any activity that will be detrimental to them. I would not support any "lifestyle" that would put children at risk.

Do as I say, not as I do?

Would you care to elaborate ?

No, you are well aware of exactly what I am saying. The reality is families are suffering and have for a long time. It is reflected in school test scores, crime, divorce and many other measures. It is all rooted in the attacks on the nuclear family by people who would like to believe all this foolishness has no impact.

That does not really explain your comment at all. No one is attacking the nuclear family. Anyone who wants a traditional family is free to have one, and I support that. But the definition and structure of the family is evolving and has been evolving for a long time. Those who want or have a non traditional family are equally entitled to it. I stand by what I said in post 54. Feel free to try to refute it.

I just did in post #56. History is an excellent teacher if you let it.

You have not proven anything. It's just an opinion.


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[Bonzi]

People that can't be faithful to 1 partner are just selfish.
I don't know what else needs to be said...