No Use Of U.S. Military Power In Iraq

WOW! The far left changes what they want for "proof" with each post. And also changes the parameters of an argument at a moments notice.

If you wanted to prove your initial comments they should have been followed by links.

But then again the far left can only follow a pre-programmed course and we will watch it unfold as they can not post anything factual.
Carbonated is well known for moving the goalposts. He's an idiot that likes to argue for the sake of it...and pat himself on the back for being a consummate liar.

Do you have any evidence that the American or the Iraq people wanted a large American troop presence in Iraq after 2011?

Iraq | Gallup Historical Trends

There's 75% support for getting out. You got anything different?

More proof that the far left does not understand anything beyond their programming.

Gallop poll is a far left poll just like CNN is a far left mouth piece.

Like I pointed out they have nothing!
 
The far left would much rather see the world burn that admit they were wrong!

Typical of the far left and their programming.

Why post when you have nothing to offer and what you offer cannot be supported by any evidence? Are you stupid or simply desperate for attention and need affirmation from the radical right?

Why post when you all your far left talking points have been debunked?

You post your programmed talking points over and over even they are proven to be incorrect.

So why post them at all?
 
Get off your fat ass and prove that anything I said was inaccurate.

More proof that the mentality of the far left is no different than a toddler.

The far left will knowingly post bunk info and expect you to prove them wrong.

Can't prove a negative.

This being your third post (and I've only read page one) and you seem to think you are an authority on the "far left".

Please define for us what you mean by the "far left". Who is far left and where is the dividing line between the RINO, Conservatives (Republican and Democrat), the vast majority of American citizens - who rejected the neo conservatives and continue to blame them for the Iraq fiasco - and whatever you call yourself (I call you a neo fascist)?

You are far left and the far left controls the party that incestuous support without reason or question.

And another shining example of the far left programmed mentality.
 
The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.
The failure is the spineless obamashitforbrains who has failed at everything he touches.
 
More proof that the mentality of the far left is no different than a toddler.

The far left will knowingly post bunk info and expect you to prove them wrong.

Can't prove a negative.

This being your third post (and I've only read page one) and you seem to think you are an authority on the "far left".

Please define for us what you mean by the "far left". Who is far left and where is the dividing line between the RINO, Conservatives (Republican and Democrat), the vast majority of American citizens - who rejected the neo conservatives and continue to blame them for the Iraq fiasco - and whatever you call yourself (I call you a neo fascist)?

You are far left and the far left controls the party that incestuous support without reason or question.

And another shining example of the far left programmed mentality.

I'm far from far left; I'd suggest you'd have been brainwashed buy I doubt anything so extreme was necessary; likely a light rinse did the job.

Don't use words you don't understand and parrot them because some AM radio 'philosopher' said them, and turn off Fox News and maybe, maybe you won't appear to be an ignorant ass.
 
The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.
The failure is the spineless obamashitforbrains who has failed at everything he touches.

Why are the Obama haters so foolish and arrogant as to post a message like this ^^^? Don't they realize only someone with a double digit IQ and a sadly inadequate education would produce such insipid tommyrot ?
 
Wry Catcher wins the troll of the day award. Bitches about others contributions while adding nothing most of the time
 
Wry Catcher wins the troll of the day award. Bitches about others contributions while adding nothing most of the time
FlyCatcher IS a caricature of himself, and doesn't realize it.

PITY.:lol:

I invite everyone to review my posts and those of the two idiots above, and see who contributes and who lacks substance.
 
This being your third post (and I've only read page one) and you seem to think you are an authority on the "far left".

Please define for us what you mean by the "far left". Who is far left and where is the dividing line between the RINO, Conservatives (Republican and Democrat), the vast majority of American citizens - who rejected the neo conservatives and continue to blame them for the Iraq fiasco - and whatever you call yourself (I call you a neo fascist)?

You are far left and the far left controls the party that incestuous support without reason or question.

And another shining example of the far left programmed mentality.

I'm far from far left; I'd suggest you'd have been brainwashed buy I doubt anything so extreme was necessary; likely a light rinse did the job.

Don't use words you don't understand and parrot them because some AM radio 'philosopher' said them, and turn off Fox News and maybe, maybe you won't appear to be an ignorant ass.

Yes you are and I will use what ever words I like..

Another post showing that you are indeed far left!
 
The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.
The failure is the spineless obamashitforbrains who has failed at everything he touches.

Why are the Obama haters so foolish and arrogant as to post a message like this ^^^? Don't they realize only someone with a double digit IQ and a sadly inadequate education would produce such insipid tommyrot ?

Obama is far left and you are far left!
 
Bush's Status of Forces agreement was implemented. With 75% support from the American people,

not to mention the fact that the Iraqi people wanted us out of there.

Now you tell us how any president would have gotten around those realties.
If it HAD you dumbfuck as was originally designed? WE wouldn't have Marines there now clearing our embassy, and protecting contractors. And tell us WHY the Iraqi Army is throwing down their weapons and running?
(For FEAR of being massacred as they ARE)?

:eusa_hand:

Article 24—Withdrawal of the United States Forces from Iraq

Recognizing the performance and increasing capacity of the Iraqi Security Forces, the assumption of full security responsibility by those Forces, and based upon the strong relationship between the Parties, an agreement on the following has been reached:1.All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.


That's directly from the text of the 2008 agreement. What's your problem?

link:

Status of Forces Agreement, 2008 - Wikisource, the free online library

Other than the failure of the Iraq army,that was then this is now.
 
If it HAD you dumbfuck as was originally designed? WE wouldn't have Marines there now clearing our embassy, and protecting contractors. And tell us WHY the Iraqi Army is throwing down their weapons and running?
(For FEAR of being massacred as they ARE)?

:eusa_hand:

Article 24—Withdrawal of the United States Forces from Iraq

Recognizing the performance and increasing capacity of the Iraqi Security Forces, the assumption of full security responsibility by those Forces, and based upon the strong relationship between the Parties, an agreement on the following has been reached:1.All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.


That's directly from the text of the 2008 agreement. What's your problem?

link:

Status of Forces Agreement, 2008 - Wikisource, the free online library

Other than the failure of the Iraq army,that was then this is now.

Are you suggesting the failure of the Iraq Government is cause for us to invade Iraq again?
 
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Obviously the big winners in the Iraq War were Iran and Al Qaeda. All the American People got out of that awful blunder was $Trillions flushed, too many funerals, and a more powerful Iran & Al Qaeda. A historical blunder for sure. So let's not make it worse. Let's sit this one out.
 

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