No Use Of U.S. Military Power In Iraq

[NYcarbineer]

More proof the far left is not connected to reality.

Get off your fat ass and prove that anything I said was inaccurate.

More proof that the mentality of the far left is no different than a toddler.

The far left will knowingly post bunk info and expect you to prove them wrong.

Can't prove a negative.

All you have to prove is that the American people and the Iraqi people did not want American troops to leave Iraq at the end of 2011.

Since I realize you've never made a valid argument about anything since you've been on this board,

it will be quite a challenge for you.

 

[g5000]

You guys just haven't caught on yet, have you. It is the WAITING part that gives away the GOP. They haven't the balls to state their position until AFTER Obama states his. Then they go the opposite route.

That's not leadership. It is the opposite of leadership and is a dead giveaway of their cowardice and partisanship. They aren't thinking about what is best for America. They are scared of being caught on the same side of the street as the President. Chickenshit motherfuckers, is what they are.

Take a stand and defend it BEFORE Obama does. Cowards.

Those who take a stand on an issue will flip flop later if it so happens Obama comes out in favor of the same thing. Just like they did with Common Core.

Cowards and hypocrites.

 

[Kosh]

Get off your fat ass and prove that anything I said was inaccurate.

More proof that the mentality of the far left is no different than a toddler.

The far left will knowingly post bunk info and expect you to prove them wrong.

Can't prove a negative.

All you have to prove is that the American people and the Iraqi people did not want American troops to leave Iraq at the end of 2011.

Since I realize you've never made a valid argument about anything since you've been on this board,

it will be quite a challenge for you.

WOW! The far left changes what they want for "proof" with each post. And also changes the parameters of an argument at a moments notice.

If you wanted to prove your initial comments they should have been followed by links.

But then again the far left can only follow a pre-programmed course and we will watch it unfold as they can not post anything factual.

 

[The T]

More proof that the mentality of the far left is no different than a toddler.

The far left will knowingly post bunk info and expect you to prove them wrong.

Can't prove a negative.

All you have to prove is that the American people and the Iraqi people did not want American troops to leave Iraq at the end of 2011.

Since I realize you've never made a valid argument about anything since you've been on this board,

it will be quite a challenge for you.

WOW! The far left changes what they want for "proof" with each post. And also changes the parameters of an argument at a moments notice.

If you wanted to prove your initial comments they should have been followed by links.

But then again the far left can only follow a pre-programmed course and we will watch it unfold as they can not post anything factual.

Carbonated is well known for moving the goalposts. He's an idiot that likes to argue for the sake of it...and pat himself on the back for being a consummate liar.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You guys just haven't caught on yet, have you. It is the WAITING part that gives away the GOP. They haven't the balls to state their position until AFTER Obama states his. Then they go the opposite route.

That's not leadership. It is the opposite of leadership and is a dead giveaway of their cowardice and partisanship. They aren't thinking about what is best for America. They are scared of being caught on the same side of the street as the President. Chickenshit motherfuckers, is what they are.

Take a stand and defend it BEFORE Obama does. Cowards.

Those who take a stand on an issue will flip flop later if it so happens Obama comes out in favor of the same thing. Just like they did with Common Core.

Cowards and hypocrites.

Why are you such a lying hack piece of shit? I have made multiple threads taking a pro bombing stance and most of the right have disagreed with me.
Do you need them to send you a notarized letter of their position?

Idiot

 

[1776]

Obama wanted out of Iraq so he did it, then blamed Iraq for it.

Now he is going to blame Buuuuuuuuuush for the current mess in Iraq, just give it time.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

In fact g500, the ONLY PERSON WHO IS DITHERING IS OBAMA. This decision should have been made long ago. The moron in chief should have had contingency plans in place. But he didn't because AS USUAL he leads from behind.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Well, like every good Republican, I am going to wait to see what Obama wants to do. Then I will be in favor of the exact opposite and call for his impeachment. If he wants to drone bomb the shit out of the terrorists, I will be against it. If he then caves in to us Republicans and doesn't bomb the terrorists, I will say later he should have bombed them. I'm a uniter, not a divider.

Considering that the landscape is littered with his scandals, deception, lies and so on it probably only be prudent to do the opposite of what he proposes.

Of course you are blind to the mountains of manufactured bullshit coming from the Right.

Not at all. But you seem to be blind to the deception coming from the left.

 

[1776]

As someone that has intimate knowledge of military operations under Obama, I can say it is par for the course that orders come down from DC to plan for this and that "after the shit hits the fan" but then Obama doesn't implement the plan....see Syria, I worked that plan a few years ago.

 

[tinydancer]

The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.

You've got it ass backwards. It's a Shiite dominated majority. The army of terrorists called ISIS is Sunni. They have been trying to overthrow Assad as well and are supported financially by Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

ISIS has been working with Saddam's old crew the Baathists to overthrow this government. They are not rebels. They are a army of terrorists.

Now if you want Sunni terrorists who make AQ look like Girl Scouts to have access to all the wealth in Baghdad and all the oil fields and all the military hardware we have given Iraq and last but not least open up a whole can of nasty whoop ass on the world, just say it.

Lord Almighty you freaking libs are worse than an ex wife who keeps dragging up the shit you did years ago instead of dealing with the issue at hand. GW made mistakes. Clinton made mistakes. GH made mistakes and so on and so on in the ME.

But the biggest mistake of all was by the League of Nations.

 

[NYcarbineer]

All you have to prove is that the American people and the Iraqi people did not want American troops to leave Iraq at the end of 2011.

Since I realize you've never made a valid argument about anything since you've been on this board,

it will be quite a challenge for you.

WOW! The far left changes what they want for "proof" with each post. And also changes the parameters of an argument at a moments notice.

If you wanted to prove your initial comments they should have been followed by links.

But then again the far left can only follow a pre-programmed course and we will watch it unfold as they can not post anything factual.

Carbonated is well known for moving the goalposts. He's an idiot that likes to argue for the sake of it...and pat himself on the back for being a consummate liar.

Do you have any evidence that the American or the Iraq people wanted a large American troop presence in Iraq after 2011?

Iraq | Gallup Historical Trends

There's 75% support for getting out. You got anything different?

 

[The T]

The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.

You've got it ass backwards. It's a Shiite dominated majority. The army of terrorists called ISIS is Sunni. They have been trying to overthrow Assad as well and are supported financially by Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

ISIS has been working with Saddam's old crew the Baathists to overthrow this government. They are not rebels. They are a army of terrorists.

Now if you want Sunni terrorists who make AQ look like Girl Scouts to have access to all the wealth in Baghdad and all the oil fields and all the military hardware we have given Iraq and last but not least open up a whole can of nasty whoop ass on the world, just say it.

Lord Almighty you freaking libs are worse than an ex wife who keeps dragging up the shit you did years ago instead of dealing with the issue at hand. GW made mistakes. Clinton made mistakes. GH made mistakes and so on and so on in the ME.

But the biggest mistake of all was by the League of Nations.

Indeed. They are so radical that AQ rejected them. What does that portend?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.

You've got it ass backwards. It's a Shiite dominated majority. The army of terrorists called ISIS is Sunni. They have been trying to overthrow Assad as well and are supported financially by Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

ISIS has been working with Saddam's old crew the Baathists to overthrow this government. They are not rebels. They are a army of terrorists.

Now if you want Sunni terrorists who make AQ look like Girl Scouts to have access to all the wealth in Baghdad and all the oil fields and all the military hardware we have given Iraq and last but not least open up a whole can of nasty whoop ass on the world, just say it.

Lord Almighty you freaking libs are worse than an ex wife who keeps dragging up the shit you did years ago instead of dealing with the issue at hand. GW made mistakes. Clinton made mistakes. GH made mistakes and so on and so on in the ME.

But the biggest mistake of all was by the League of Nations.

You have an ex-wife? ooh la la.

Obama couldn't keep troops in Iraq even if he wanted to. That is the first fact you need to cope with.

 

[Bush92]

The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.

You are correct. Democracy will never take hold in SW Asia. These people are not of western decent and have no connection to ancient Greece and democratic thought. Also, Islam runs counter to a democratic form of government.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The failure of the U.S. to impose Democracy has become the slow motion train wreck that many (myself included) people who opposed the Invasion said would happen.

Politico is reporting the one of largest Oil Refineries in Iraq has been captured. Mosul and Tikrit are now in rebel hands.

Rebels have captured one of the largest refineries in Iraq.

And what do all the Righties who got it wrong in the first place want?

Bomb Iraq.

Paul Bremer, Paul Wolfwitz, Bill Kristol and the rest whose lies about Saddam having ties to al_Qeada (none), lies about W.M.D. (Weren't any), lies about "Not wanting the smoking gun to become a Mushroom Cloud" (no nuclear weapons at all) these are the people who think all the U.S. has to is bomb Iraq and everything will be milk and cookies again.

The Obama Administration adhered to a plan for troop withdrawal drawn up by bush, and Mr. Obama is attacked for it.

The Obama Administration attempted to negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (S.O.F.A.) that would have permitted a residual U.S. Force to remain in Iraq, but the Iraqi Government did not want that. Mr. Obama is attacked for that.

Nuri Al Maliki is a Sunni leading a Sunni Dominated Government (He promised to be inclusive and failed) that has done all it can to suppress the Shiite Minority. Mr. Obama is attacked that. Al Maliki was the U.S. selected dictator. Just like Saddam was the U.S. select dictator. And just like Saddam, Al Maliki is not interested in Democracy, it's all about consolidating power and suppressing the Shiite Minority.

Major Truth Cons, you cannot impose Democracy. Democracy at the point of a bayonet is not democracy, it is tryanny.

There can be no use of U.S. Military Force in Iraq, there is no easily identifiable ally to support.

Use of U.S. Air Power is questionable at best and just some food for thought, among the U.S. Military equipment left behind are.....wait for it....Stinger Missiles. Shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles....brilliant idea that one.

There was no al_Qeada in Iraq before the U.S. Invasion.

This is you Cons created.

Live with it.

Spot on!!!

 

[Wry Catcher]

The far left would much rather see the world burn that admit they were wrong!

Typical of the far left and their programming.

Why post when you have nothing to offer and what you offer cannot be supported by any evidence? Are you stupid or simply desperate for attention and need affirmation from the radical right?

 

[AmericanFirst]

The far left would much rather see the world burn that admit they were wrong!

Typical of the far left and their programming.

Why post when you have nothing to offer and what you offer cannot be supported by any evidence? Are you stupid or simply desperate for attention and need affirmation from the radical right?

The left are the stupid ones, obamashitforbrains is proving it daily.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The far left would much rather see the world burn that admit they were wrong!

Typical of the far left and their programming.

Why post when you have nothing to offer and what you offer cannot be supported by any evidence? Are you stupid or simply desperate for attention and need affirmation from the radical right?

After post 35 you posted this?

Idiot

 

[The T]

The far left would much rather see the world burn that admit they were wrong!

Typical of the far left and their programming.

Why post when you have nothing to offer and what you offer cannot be supported by any evidence? Are you stupid or simply desperate for attention and need affirmation from the radical right?

After post 35 you posted this?

Idiot

Idiot is too kind...but you're correct. Fly Catcher has nothing.

 

[Wry Catcher]

More proof the far left is not connected to reality.

Get off your fat ass and prove that anything I said was inaccurate.

More proof that the mentality of the far left is no different than a toddler.

The far left will knowingly post bunk info and expect you to prove them wrong.

Can't prove a negative.

This being your third post (and I've only read page one) and you seem to think you are an authority on the "far left".

Please define for us what you mean by the "far left". Who is far left and where is the dividing line between the RINO, Conservatives (Republican and Democrat), the vast majority of American citizens - who rejected the neo conservatives and continue to blame them for the Iraq fiasco - and whatever you call yourself (I call you a neo fascist)?