'No Separation Of Church And State': Trump's Religious Liberty Commission Reveals Its Priorities

So you admit things can change.
BTW: 6 words....still not hitting that ten mark.

Yes I admit things can change....as I just said.

It's you idiots that won't admit they can change back.

Watching Ted Kennedy scream at SCOTUS nominees about preserving what he called "gains" made me want to hurt him even more. I look forward to paying his grave a visit one day.

I only wish he'd been here for Dobbs.

It would have been great to see him have on-screen aneurism.
 
Your principles appear to be really fluid!
Pointing out that that there are over 200 documented instances of the SCOTUS reversing itself has nothing to do with my principles.

You are truly are worthless at reasoning and logic.

It would seem it is the SCOTUS that can't make up it's mind. But that is what you clowns on the left are pining for. That is why you are talking about packing the court.
 
BTW: 6 words....still not hitting that ten mark.

Yes I admit things can change....as I just said.

It's you idiots that won't admit they can change back.

Watching Ted Kennedy scream at SCOTUS nominees about preserving what he called "gains" made me want to hurt him even more. I look forward to paying his grave a visit one day.

I only wish he'd been here for Dobbs.

It would have been great to see him have on-screen aneurism.
I don’t give a shit what you think about my posting style, though it does tickle me that it bothers you so much. :p
 
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Pointing out that that there are over 200 documented instances of the SCOTUS reversing itself has nothing to do with my principles.

You are truly are worthless at reasoning and logic.

It would seem it is the SCOTUS that can't make up its mind. But that is what you clowns on the left are pining for. That is why you are talking about packing the court.
It’s not so much a matter changed minds as it is the fact that the Constitution is a living document.
 
I don’t give a shit what you think about my posting style, though it does tickle me that it bothers you so much. :p
Wow...more than 10 words. That's impressive.

Your vocabular seemed to add one or two more.

Keep it up...the 4th grade awaits you.
 
It’s not so much a matter changed minds as it is the fact that the Constitution is a living document.
I nominate this post for "Dumbassed post of the month".

I suspect you'll win.

The only thing that changed with regards the abortion was that in 1973, the court overreached and decided to stick it's pointy nose in a state matter. That was all "legal" minds (as you call the....I call them partisan POS's).

And with Dobbs, the court decided that the idiots in 1973 were wrong.

Not a word changed in the constitution.

And as to that point, where was the movement to create a federal amendment to make abortion legal. Oh yeah,.....it never materialized.
 
That didn't start until 1930-1940 and one day will be rejected as an aberration of the FDR butt-nugget court.

That WAS NOT THE CASE WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED.
The U.S. constitution did not start to take effect in the 1930’s. The first amendment in full applied to the states the day it was ratified.
 
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It’s not so much a matter changed minds as it is the fact that the Constitution is a living document.
The US Constitution is not a living and breathing document which can just expand or contract on it’s own.
 
The U.S. constitution did not start to take effect in the 1930’s.
OK

Final word to because you are clearly to lazy to do any research.

First, states had state run churches and they were never challenged: from a 100 sources on the internet:

By 1790, about two-thirds of Connecticut’s religious societies were Congregationalist, while the rest were other Christian denominations teachitct.org.

The Congregational Church was disestablished in 1818 when the Connecticut Constitution formally ended state support for any single church, aligning with the U.S. First Amendment’s establishment clause teachitct.org+1.

So, while Connecticut did not have a national church, it maintained a state-established Congregational Church from the 1630s until 1818, when it became a secular state.

Second, Thomas stated the following:

Justice Thomas, who wrote a supporting opinion for the Greece v. Galloway decision, argues that the Establishment Clause applies only to federal government, and that state and municipal governments retain the power to recognize a local religion if they want. He cites as evidence the fact that several of the states actually had established religions, in some cases with taxation laws supporting the church, at the time of the framing of the Constitution.

He goes on to assert that while the federal government protects the individual’s right to religious freedom, it is restrained by the Establishment Clause from even speaking to the right of states and municipalities to establish religion or allow prayer in public meetings. This opinion is unique within the court, but remains consistent with other opinions he has written over the years regarding the First Amendment.

You want to argue with Thomas, be my guest. He's smarter that you (and looking even more smart with each post you make).

Third: Incorporation is: In United States constitutional law, incorporation is the doctrine by which portions of the Bill of Rights have been made applicable to the states.

Rep. John Bingham, the principal framer of the Fourteenth Amendment, advocated that the Fourteenth applied the first eight Amendments of the Bill of Rights to the States.<a href="Incorporation of the Bill of Rights - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> The U.S. Supreme Court subsequently declined to interpret it that way, despite the dissenting argument in the 1947 case of Adamson v. California by Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black that the framers' intent should control the Court's interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment (he included a lengthy appendix that quoted extensively from Bingham's congressional testimony)

Although the Adamson Court declined to adopt Black's interpretation, the Court during the following twenty-five years employed a doctrine of selective incorporation that succeeded in extending against the States almost all of the protections in the Bill of Rights, as well as other, unenumerated rights.

In the 1940s and 1960s the Supreme Court gradually issued a series of decisions incorporating several of the specific rights from the Bill of Rights, so as to be binding upon the States


No more you stupid ****. Do your own homework and stop making an ass of yourself.
 
OK

Final word to because you are clearly to lazy to do any research.

First, states had state run churches and they were never challenged: from a 100 sources on the internet:

By 1790, about two-thirds of Connecticut’s religious societies were Congregationalist, while the rest were other Christian denominations teachitct.org.

The Congregational Church was disestablished in 1818 when the Connecticut Constitution formally ended state support for any single church, aligning with the U.S. First Amendment’s establishment clause teachitct.org+1.

So, while Connecticut did not have a national church, it maintained a state-established Congregational Church from the 1630s until 1818, when it became a secular state.

Second, Thomas stated the following:

Justice Thomas, who wrote a supporting opinion for the Greece v. Galloway decision, argues that the Establishment Clause applies only to federal government, and that state and municipal governments retain the power to recognize a local religion if they want. He cites as evidence the fact that several of the states actually had established religions, in some cases with taxation laws supporting the church, at the time of the framing of the Constitution.

He goes on to assert that while the federal government protects the individual’s right to religious freedom, it is restrained by the Establishment Clause from even speaking to the right of states and municipalities to establish religion or allow prayer in public meetings. This opinion is unique within the court, but remains consistent with other opinions he has written over the years regarding the First Amendment.

You want to argue with Thomas, be my guest. He's smarter that you (and looking even more smart with each post you make).

Third: Incorporation is: In United States constitutional law, incorporation is the doctrine by which portions of the Bill of Rights have been made applicable to the states.

Rep. John Bingham, the principal framer of the Fourteenth Amendment, advocated that the Fourteenth applied the first eight Amendments of the Bill of Rights to the States.<a href="Incorporation of the Bill of Rights - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> The U.S. Supreme Court subsequently declined to interpret it that way, despite the dissenting argument in the 1947 case of Adamson v. California by Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black that the framers' intent should control the Court's interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment (he included a lengthy appendix that quoted extensively from Bingham's congressional testimony)

Although the Adamson Court declined to adopt Black's interpretation, the Court during the following twenty-five years employed a doctrine of selective incorporation that succeeded in extending against the States almost all of the protections in the Bill of Rights, as well as other, unenumerated rights.

In the 1940s and 1960s the Supreme Court gradually issued a series of decisions incorporating several of the specific rights from the Bill of Rights, so as to be binding upon the States


No more you stupid ****. Do your own homework and stop making an ass of yourself.
I was going to cut you some slack, but you’re not a smart guy.

According to your line of thought, states can ignore every element of the U.S. Constitution.
 
I nominate this post for "Dumbassed post of the month".

I suspect you'll win.

The only thing that changed with regards the abortion was that in 1973, the court overreached and decided to stick it's pointy nose in a state matter. That was all "legal" minds (as you call the....I call them partisan POS's).

And with Dobbs, the court decided that the idiots in 1973 were wrong.

Not a word changed in the constitution.

And as to that point, where was the movement to create a federal amendment to make abortion legal. Oh yeah,.....it never materialized.
That’s a cute story. Perhaps it could be a central topic at your next session.
 
True, it requires judicial rulings. You do know what a metaphor is, don’t you?
If doesn’t get altered by judicial rulings. It gets altered through a long and arduous amendment process. That process is not ruled upon by the judicial branch. They can’t rule that a ratified amendment is unconstitutional.

Do you know anything about the U.S. Constitution? Evidently not.
 
If doesn’t get altered by judicial rulings. It gets altered through a long and arduous amendment process. That process is not ruled upon by the judicial branch. They can’t rule that a ratified amendment is unconstitutional.

Do you know anything about the U.S. Constitution? Evidently not.
They do tell us what amendments mean and that can change over time.

19-Year Expiration: In a famous 1789 letter to Madison, Jefferson argued that "the earth belongs to the living generation". He believed that no society could make a perpetual constitution and proposed that constitutions and laws should automatically expire every 19 years to prevent oppression.
 
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They do tell us what amendments mean and that can change over time.

19-Year Expiration: In a famous 1789 letter to Madison, Jefferson argued that "the earth belongs to the living generation". He believed that no society could make a perpetual constitution and proposed that constitutions and laws should automatically expire every 19 years to prevent oppression.
Amendments can’t change over time. They can only be repealed. It can then be re-written then another attempt to ratify. There’s no 19 or 20 year sunset clause in any Constitutional Amendment.
 
Amendments can’t change over time. They can only be repealed. It can then be re-written then another attempt to ratify. There’s no 19 or 20 year sunset clause in any Constitutional Amendment.
The whole Constitution is open to interpretation. If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t need SCOTUS.
 
The whole Constitution is open to interpretation. If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t need SCOTUS.
Amendments don’t change themselves nor are they established and enacted by judicial rulings.

The supreme court by design is the weakest of the three branches of the federal government. They have zero ability to enforce their rulings.
 
Amendments don’t change themselves nor are they established and enacted by judicial rulings.

The supreme court by design is the weakest of the three branches of the federal government. They have zero ability to enforce their rulings.
It’s that kind of thinking that’s led to our present mess. Your comment reminds me of Stalin asking how many divisions the Pope has.
 
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