No Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID

[JoeBlow]

entitled little bitch, eh?

gimme a new heart!!! i won't comply with the regulations, but i WANT IT; NOW

Never in the history of heart transplants has this been a policy to be vaccinated, you fucking Nazi.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

BOSTON (CBS) – David Ferguson is speaking out passionately on behalf of his son DJ. He says the 31-year-old is fighting for his life at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and in desperate need of a heart transplant. “My son has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he’s been pushed to the limit,” Ferguson said.

The family says he was at the front of the line to receive a transplant but because he has not received the COVID-19 vaccination he is no longer eligible according to hospital policy. And Ferguson says his son refuses to get the shot.

“It’s kind of against his basic principles, he doesn’t believe in it. It’s a policy they are enforcing and so because he won’t get the shot, they took him off the list of a heart transplant,” Ferguson said.

Man Can't Get Heart Transplant Because He's Not Vaccinated Against COVID

DJ Ferguson was set to receive a heart transplant, but because he is not vaccinated against COVID-19 he is no longer eligible, according to hospital policy.

boston.cbslocal.com

Do you think it's right to deny someone medical care based on their vaccination status?

Yes.

 

[L.K.Eder]

The man lives in America and has free choice. No law requires him to get a vaccine he doesn't want, simply an idiotic fascist mandate by those who want to control. To withhold a heart he needs to live is criminal.

no. hearts are scarce. why waste it on somebody who willingly increases his risk? there surely is another patient who needs this heart as well, and is not evidently uninterested in increasing the probability of having a successful transplantation.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

entitled little bitch, eh?

gimme a new heart!!! i won't comply with the regulations, but i WANT IT; NOW

Being vaccinated does not stop the spread of Omicron, so why deny the person?

 

[JoeBlow]

lol. the man is free to remain unvaccinated. however, he is not entitled to a new heart. consequences.

Get vaxxed or no new heart? There's a major lawsuit right there. Unfortunately, they'll let the patient die in the meanwhile. Buncha fucking assholes.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Never in the history of heart transplants has this been a policy to be vaccinated, you fucking Nazi.

are you sure? did you do your "own research" on that topic, or did you just vomit this on the board?

 

[Esdraelon]

BOSTON (CBS) – David Ferguson is speaking out passionately on behalf of his son DJ. He says the 31-year-old is fighting for his life at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and in desperate need of a heart transplant. “My son has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he’s been pushed to the limit,” Ferguson said.

The family says he was at the front of the line to receive a transplant but because he has not received the COVID-19 vaccination he is no longer eligible according to hospital policy. And Ferguson says his son refuses to get the shot.

“It’s kind of against his basic principles, he doesn’t believe in it. It’s a policy they are enforcing and so because he won’t get the shot, they took him off the list of a heart transplant,” Ferguson said.

Man Can't Get Heart Transplant Because He's Not Vaccinated Against COVID

DJ Ferguson was set to receive a heart transplant, but because he is not vaccinated against COVID-19 he is no longer eligible, according to hospital policy.

boston.cbslocal.com

Do you think it's right to deny someone medical care based on their vaccination status?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! His family should beggar Brigham and Women's if he dies. It would be different if the vaccine was proven to be safe and effective as a preventative or proven therapeutic step but it currently cannot promise EITHER of those benefits. Boston... just another Blue Cesspool. SMH...

 

[L.K.Eder]

Being vaccinated does not stop the spread of Omicron, so why deny the person?

because they suppress your immune system prior during and a long time after the transplantation. therefore, this frail person further increases his risk. other persons need a heart as well.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

It takes about 10 seconds to get the vaccine.

The guy is too stubborn for his own good.

That is irrelevant. You nor I have no business forcing someone to do something against their will.

 

[JoeBlow]

are you sure? did you do your "own research" on that topic, or did you just vomit this on the board?

You want to let people die because they won't do like you. You're a pathetic excuse for a human being. But you knew that already, didn't you?

 

[Hellokitty]

I would probably side with the hospital if the JAB actually worked, but when one of the side effect is heart problems I can understand why someone in need of a new heart wouldn't want to the JAB.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

because they suppress your immune system prior during and a long time after the transplantation. therefore, this frail person further increases his risk. other persons need a heart as well.

How does a person who doesn't take an injection increase his/her risk?

 

[eagle1462010]

Fuck all you leftist Fascist. And your Rules to OBEY you.

Your true colors come out more every day I wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire.

 

[JoeBlow]

because they suppress your immune system prior during and a long time after the transplantation. therefore, this frail person further increases his risk. other persons need a heart as well.

So they wouldn't be taking the vax for protection against covid, but to help with the transplant? Gawd, you're a fucking idiot.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Shared decision making in clinical medicine means that each party brings their expertise to the dialogue when more than one viable option exists. Patients know their values and preferences. Physicians and health-care professionals understand the treatment options and their general benefits and burdens. Health-care professionals offer options to the patient that have some chance of benefit. However, in decisions regarding solid organ transplantation, the transplant team adheres to a higher standard than merely some chance of benefit. The transplant team is the initial steward of the gift of the organ. The gift is made to the community of patients in need and good stewardship (sometimes called the principle of utility)5 requires that the organ is allocated in a way that is likely to result in significant benefit to the recipient. Thus, the transplant team uses its professional expertise to set screening protocols for potential recipients and requirements to promote behaviors that increase the likelihood of successful long-term transplant outcomes. Many of these are well-known such as requiring potential recipients of a liver transplant who suffer from alcohol substance use disorder to complete a treatment program for the disorder or for a cigarette smoker to demonstrate a sustained abstinence from nicotine before he is approved for a lung transplant. Such requirements seem common-sensical and typically generate little controversy.
Two other well-established considerations regarding good stewardship of donated solid organs are worth mentioning. First, traditional medical ethics embraces the principle of nonmaleficence as embodied in the famous dictum, “Primum non nocere.” The physician is obligated to avoid harming the patient and when that is not possible in the course of treatment, to take appropriate steps to ameliorate that harm. Patients who receive SOTs are “harmed” by the physician in the sense that they will be subject to immunosuppression to prevent graft rejection. Being immunocompromised places a patient at increased risk of opportunistic infections. As a result, many transplant programs require the patient to be up to date on a range of vaccinations, such as those for hepatitis A and B, and to receive an annual seasonal flu vaccination. The patient may be required to receive all vaccinations that are proven to be efficacious against infectious threats that would significantly jeopardize the benefit of organ transplantation.

 

[L.K.Eder]

So they wouldn't be taking the vax for protection against covid, but to help with the transplant? Gawd, you're a fucking idiot.

it is time for your nap, liar.

read the link i provided, i even excerpted and bolded relevant parts.

requiring transplant candidates to be vaccinated is standard.

 

[Esdraelon]

high probability of mortality

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support this statement. Fewer than 1% who contract this virus, die from it. 80+ percent don't even need hospitalization. THIS^ is about government control and political thuggery. Go ahead and give the government power over your body then see if they don't abuse it.

 

[surada]

Never in the history of heart transplants has this been a policy to be vaccinated, you fucking Nazi.

When was the last time they were doing heart transplants during a pandemic? Do you fucking ever think?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

because they suppress your immune system prior during and a long time after the transplantation. therefore, this frail person further increases his risk. other persons need a heart as well.

Didn’t answer my question, and my question was simple but you are hardcore at wanting to kill anyone refusing to take the vaccine when it does not even stop the contracting nor the spread of the virus and seeing his immune system is already compromise taking the vaccine could also be dangerous for him.

So kindly explain why taking the vaccine at this time is needed when it does very little to protect the person and in fact because of his underlying condition he would most likely die if he contracts Omicron?

 

[L.K.Eder]

That is irrelevant. You nor I have no business forcing someone to do something against their will.

agreed.

but no vaccine, no new heart.

pas de bras, pas de chocolat.