Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

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Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

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Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
shrug.gif


knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
shrug.gif


knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I


They still have their nuke program, great point supporting why the Iran deal was a bad deal. Would the same people who supported the Iran deal which allowed Iran to keep their nuke program hold the same view if TRUMP were to agree to a deal with North Korea allowing them to keep their nuke program?
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?

If no war with Iran is the measure of success then Obama's policy was just as successful. As was Bush II and Clinton and Bush I and...
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I


They still have their nuke program, great point supporting why the Iran deal was a bad deal.
I guess I'll try to reason with a Trump supporter although I should know better but here it goes:

Okay... in 1983 we invaded Greneda. In 1989 we invaded panama. In 1992, we invaded Iraq and did so again in 2003. What did all of these nations have in common (along with Korea in the 50's and Viet Nam in the 50's and 60's, Bosnia in the 90s and Syria in the 2010's). They didn't have a nuke and none of these locations were of a threat to our national interest.

Given this history...do you think that any nation on our bad side would give up their nukes? I mean, if you were Iran...would there be any scenario where you would have given up your nuclear program? Of course not.

Would the same people who supported the Iran deal which allowed Iran to keep their nuke program hold the same view if TRUMP were to agree to a deal with North Korea allowing them to keep their nuke program?

The end result in both cases is this: We are either going to invade or they are going to have a nuke missile. This is why the North Koreans are doing nothing to dismantle their operation.

But since you brought up North Korea, it's instructive why the Iran Nuke Deal was a good idea. A nation that has no money, no intellectual capital and very few resources has built a robust nuke program. Iran, a nation with mad cash, intellectual capital and very wealthy friends was going to have a nuke if they wanted to develop one regardless of the West wanting them to do so or not. So it's probably a better idea to get them to agree to some guidelines or boundaries instead of tearing up the deal and stomping our feet. We tore up the deal, stomped our feet and now they have no reason to not pursue as many weapons as possible. They see it as the one thing that will keep the US from invading...because it IS the one thing that has kept the US from invading other nations that we've had major disagreements with.

It doesn't make us the bad guy and doesn't make them the good guy; but it is the political realities of our past and their present.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?

They are? We've pulled out (or are pulling out) of Syria and the Iranian backed terrorists groups are taking root in a nation that borders them.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

You left off driving Iran and Russia into a much closer and stronger partnership off your list.

Oh, and you left off how China is filling the void left by Trump fucking over the US companies that had been doing business with Iran.
 
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I


They still have their nuke program, great point supporting why the Iran deal was a bad deal.
I guess I'll try to reason with a Trump supporter although I should know better but here it goes:

Okay... in 1983 we invaded Greneda. In 1989 we invaded panama. In 1992, we invaded Iraq and did so again in 2003. What did all of these nations have in common (along with Korea in the 50's and Viet Nam in the 50's and 60's, Bosnia in the 90s and Syria in the 2010's). They didn't have a nuke and none of these locations were of a threat to our national interest.

Given this history...do you think that any nation on our bad side would give up their nukes? I mean, if you were Iran...would there be any scenario where you would have given up your nuclear program? Of course not.

Would the same people who supported the Iran deal which allowed Iran to keep their nuke program hold the same view if TRUMP were to agree to a deal with North Korea allowing them to keep their nuke program?

The end result in both cases is this: We are either going to invade or they are going to have a nuke missile. This is why the North Koreans are doing nothing to dismantle their operation.

But since you brought up North Korea, it's instructive why the Iran Nuke Deal was a good idea. A nation that has no money, no intellectual capital and very few resources has built a robust nuke program. Iran, a nation with mad cash, intellectual capital and very wealthy friends was going to have a nuke if they wanted to develop one regardless of the West wanting them to do so or not. So it's probably a better idea to get them to agree to some guidelines or boundaries instead of tearing up the deal and stomping our feet. We tore up the deal, stomped our feet and now they have no reason to not pursue as many weapons as possible. They see it as the one thing that will keep the US from invading...because it IS the one thing that has kept the US from invading other nations that we've had major disagreements with.

It doesn't make us the bad guy and doesn't make them the good guy; but it is the political realities of our past and their present.


Moore good points supporting why TRUMP shouldn't listen to the "geniuses" who supported the US invading other countries regarding the Iran deal.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I


They still have their nuke program, great point supporting why the Iran deal was a bad deal. Would the same people who supported the Iran deal which allowed Iran to keep their nuke program hold the same view if TRUMP were to agree to a deal with North Korea allowing them to keep their nuke program?
The North Koreans are keeping their nuclear weapons.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.
it was working, before.

gunboat diplomacy only adds anarchy and chaos to markets.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I


They still have their nuke program, great point supporting why the Iran deal was a bad deal. Would the same people who supported the Iran deal which allowed Iran to keep their nuke program hold the same view if TRUMP were to agree to a deal with North Korea allowing them to keep their nuke program?

North Korea is keeping their nuke program.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
shrug.gif


knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?
Withdrawing from this agreement does NOT make war with Iran less likely. In fact the opposite.

Iran can NOW develop nukes legally BECAUSE WE withdrew from the agreement. We lose the right to ANY inspections
 
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?
Withdrawing from this agreement does NOT make war with Iran less likely. In fact the opposite.

Iran can NOW develop nukes legally BECAUSE WE withdrew from the agreement. We lose the right to ANY inspections
I still doubt they can develop a nuke on their own and a delivery system which is just as complicated.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?


misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

The only people who think pulling out of that deal has been a success are Putin and his supporters. The pull out has alliwed ran to acquire an intercontinental ballistic missile. They are now working rapidly towards acquiring full on nuclear capability just as Putin wants.

Every foreign-policy move made by Donald Trump has been to aid Putin, Xi, and the rest of the worlds despots with whom he has friendships and shared goals.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
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knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.
it was working, before.

gunboat diplomacy only adds anarchy and chaos to markets.
it was not working

we saw the Iranians go so far as to grab our sailors and hold them prisoner

our new policy is hurting them financially and pushing them into a corner where they have to negotiate
of course, we ARE at 9 months, so many leftists will certainly be ready to abort...
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
shrug.gif


knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?

If no war with Iran is the measure of success then Obama's policy was just as successful. As was Bush II and Clinton and Bush I and...
Appeasement is never a recipe for success.

It always comes back at a later date to bite us in the ace.
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
shrug.gif


knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?

If no war with Iran is the measure of success then Obama's policy was just as successful. As was Bush II and Clinton and Bush I and...
Appeasement is never a recipe for success.

It always comes back at a later date to bite us in the ace.

So, you are saying we should be at war with Iran?
 
misleading assessments by US intelligence agencies? I thought that was unpossible
shrug.gif


knees bent all over the place on this one

Nine Months Later, Trump’s Iran-Deal Withdrawal Is a Clear Success

quote:
Europe is coming to acknowledge and act on the nuclear threat posed by Tehran.

Despite howls of protest by the Left, the foreign-policy establishment, and European leaders, and contrary to misleading assessments by U.S. intelligence agencies, it is now clear that President Trump’s decision last May to withdraw the United States from the controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran (the JCPOA) was the right call and is a huge policy success.

Trump’s JCPOA withdrawal did not lead to war with Iran, as many critics predicted. Instead, Iran is far more isolated than it was when President Trump assumed office. The United States has worked to unite its Middle East allies, especially Israel and Saudi Arabia, against Iran and, in Warsaw this month, will co-chair an international conference with Poland on the threat from Iran. Iran’s economy is under unprecedented pressure thanks to reimposed U.S. sanctions, especially oil sanctions, with negative 1.5 percent growth in 2018 and an expected negative 3.6 percent growth in 2019. Iran’s current year-on-year inflation rate through last month was 40 percent.

Some Trump critics predicted that any effort by the president to reimpose U.S. sanctions lifted by the JCPOA would have little effect, since other parties to the agreement — in particular the EU, Germany, France, and the U.K. — would not follow suit. But numerous European companies have resisted pressure from their governments to defy reimposed U.S. sanctions. On January 31, European leaders announced a special finance facility to help European firms skirt U.S. sanctions on Iran, but that initiative is months behind schedule and few experts believe it will work.

They still have their nuke program. And now they have zero reason to not develop a weapon as quickly as humanly possible. Iran still supports terrorists around the globe and no reason to stop doing so.

There is no policy success associated with our withdraw from the agreement.

I
The success is no war with Iran as the OP states, and no weapon's of mass destruction to date, Iran isolated with little to no growth, it's people now in rebellion mode, and Israel breathing a little bit easier these days. We could go on, but you get the point right ?
Withdrawing from this agreement does NOT make war with Iran less likely. In fact the opposite.

Iran can NOW develop nukes legally BECAUSE WE withdrew from the agreement. We lose the right to ANY inspections
The Nazi's attempted to make nuclear weapons, and they were pulverized in the situation. Does Iran want the same ????
 

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