Do you think Trump is a martyr?

[ThisIsMe]

Huh?

No chance of that happening.

I mean, I’m sure the left can pull some out of context link from somewhere…or hell, maybe he did say it, who knows. Trump say things sometimes that get theft riled up..it’s possible..

 

[SweetSue92]

Deny, deny, deny. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

The OP left out that American banks will still not loan money to Donald Trump because of his bankruptcies and fraud. Or that his charitable foundation was shut down by the State of New York because of illegal fundraising, illegal campaign contributions, and misuse of funds raised for personal and business expenses.

Trump has been barred from serving on the Board of Directors of any charity in the state of New York.

Trump has been a lifelong criminal and a complete asshole all of his adult life. Everything in OP post is true. This is why New Yorkers stand outside Trump's trial chanting "We hate Trump" and why only 12% of the citizens of New York city, voted for Donald Trump.

You have to be a complete moron to believe that Trump is a "great businessman" or should be President, but you are that moron.

Maybe you should worry about Canada instead of perseverating on Trump 24/7/365. What do you think?

 

[Batcat]

You go right ahead.

Plus for the first time in my live I will make a donation to his campaign. In all likelihood many others will too. Putting Trump in jail for violating a gag order will most like guarantee his victory over Joe Biden in November By a landslide.

 

[fncceo]

President Trump isn't a martyr...

A martyr is someone who SUFFERS for a cause.

A warrior is someone who FIGHTS for a cause.

 

[GLASNOST]

Plus for the first time in my live I will make a donation to his campaign. In all likelihood many others will too. Putting Trump in jail for violating a gag order will most like guarantee his victory over Joe Biden in November By a landslide.

Says I too!

 

[GLASNOST]

President Trump isn't a martyr...

A martyr is someone who SUFFERS for a cause.

A warrior is someone who FIGHTS for a cause.

Did you figure that out on your own or was it my response that compelled you to realize it?

 

[Dragonlady]

Maybe you should worry about Canada instead of perseverating on Trump 24/7/365. What do you think?

What we worry about most is a living over a meth lab and waiting for the explosion.

Our government isn't on the brink of civil war. We don't have fascists taking over our government. But when the shit hits the fan, Americans will come running into Canada for safety, like always.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Plus for the first time in my live I will make a donation to his campaign. In all likelihood many others will too. Putting Trump in jail for violating a gag order will most like guarantee his victory over Joe Biden in November By a landslide.

The opposite. The majority of Americans despise MAGA and Trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump, a martyr? Are you kidding?

In someone died in the pursuit of holding Trump accountable for his crimes, that person would be a martyr. But Trump? No way.

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned for Melania's suffering and humiliation she experienced when her husband was found out that he fornicated with a playboy playmate while Melania was pregnant and then he fornicated again with a porn star just after Melania, as a newlywed, gave birth four months prior?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about suffering of the 8000 in the class action lawsuit who were scammed out of millions in the fake Trump 'university'?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering of the lighting contractor for Trump Taj Mahal Casino, who was forced into bankruptcy when Trump decided not to pay the $1,000,000 he owed him for the lighting he provided, not to mention not returning the lighting?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned for the suffering of the parents of Trump's toddler grand-nephew who had cerebral palsy, the suffering they experienced whom he kicked the toddler off the family health plan just because he had a legal dispute with his deceased brother's estate, mainly his niece, Mary Trump?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering of estate of Fred Trump's son, who died, and Donald Trump tricked his father, Fred, while he was on his deathbed, into signing a new will which cut Trump's deceased brother's estate out of the will, which also excluded Mary, his niece, so that, instead of 1/5th of his father's inheritance, he got 1/4th?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering he caused a widow who Trump tried to use eminent domain to force her from her home so that he could build a limo garage?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about suffering and humiliation 5 black and latino boys experience who were charged with rape, but who were found innocent, but despite that exoneration, Trump bought full page ads in NYPost and other local publications in NY that called for their execution?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the good elderly citizens of Aberdeen Scotland, whose access to water was cut of because of the Golf Course Trump built there?

When a man like Trump who lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring, is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs, when a man like Trump who is a traitor and a malignancy in our nation and who represents a clear and present danger to our democracy and the rule of law, excuse me if I am unable conceive of Trump, ever, as a 'martyr'.

Trump is a martyr for Trump, and only for Trump. Trump will die for Trump and nobody else.

 

[dudmuck]

Plus for the first time in my live I will make a donation to his campaign. In all likelihood many others will too. Putting Trump in jail for violating a gag order will most like guarantee his victory over Joe Biden in November By a landslide.

a study results show that maga is 14% to 16% of the population.
Thats not enough to guarantee a victory

 

[Batcat]

The opposite. The majority of Americans despise MAGA and Trump.

True, but opinions can change.

Check out the popularity of both Biden and Trump and you will find both are unpopular. Often in a Presidential election the voter dislikes both candidates and picks the one he dislikes less than the other.

People may begin to realize that the Democrats are trying to use the legal system to keep Trump from campaigning and give Trump plenty of negative publicity in order to make Joe Biden’s dementia less apparent. All the legal problems Trump is having do not seem to be hurting his popularity all that much. In fact he looks very popular in Manhattan visiting a bodaga or passing out pizza to firemen and policemen.

Joe Biden also has the problem of Kamala Harris as his VP. Can he dump her for a better candidate? Will that cost him votes?

Trump could pick a really good VP candidate and while people don’t usually vote for the VP, it might make a little difference in this case.

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Biden has about 6 months to really turn the economy around. If people still can’t afford groceries all the statistics the democrats and the media can manufacture about how great the economy is doing will not make that much difference. People will look back to how they used to buy groceries when Trump was President and even if they dislike him, vote for him over Joe Biden.

Inflation heads back up, putting grocers in the spotlight

Grocery prices rose at a 1.2% annual rate in March, ending a steady decline in the economic measure stemming back to September 2022.

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[Batcat]

a study results show that maga is 14% to 16% of the population.
Thats not enough to guarantee a victory

I don’t own a MAGA hat and never will. I actually like Ron DeSantis more than Trump and feel DeSantis would be the better President. That will not stop me from voting for Trump over Biden.

I still feel Joe Biden can win but all the legal warfare going on right now doesn’t seem to be helping Joe Biden all that much. Perhaps if Trump is convicted but even then he may be able to convince voters he is a victim more than a criminal.

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[Kondor3]

Trump, a martyr? Are you kidding?

In someone died in the pursuit of holding Trump accountable for his crimes, that person would be a martyr. But Trump? No way.

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned for Melania's suffering and humiliation she experienced when her husband was found out that he fornicated with a playboy playmate while Melania was pregnant and then he fornicated again with a porn star just after Melania, as a newlywed, gave birth four months prior?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about suffering of the 8000 in the class action lawsuit who were scammed out of millions in the fake Trump 'university'?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering of the lighting contractor for Trump Taj Mahal Casino, who was forced into bankruptcy when Trump decided not to pay the $1,000,000 he owed him for the lighting he provided, not to mention not returning the lighting?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned for the suffering of the parents of Trump's toddler grand-nephew who had cerebral palsy, the suffering they experienced whom he kicked the toddler off the family health plan just because he had a legal dispute with his deceased brother's estate, mainly his niece, Mary Trump?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering of estate of Fred Trump's son, who died, and Donald Trump tricked his father, Fred, while he was on his deathbed, into signing a new will which cut Trump's deceased brother's estate out of the will, which also excluded Mary, his niece, so that, instead of 1/5th of his father's inheritance, he got 1/4th?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering he caused a widow who Trump tried to use eminent domain to force her from her home so that he could build a limo garage?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about suffering and humiliation 5 black and latino boys experience who were charged with rape, but who were found innocent, but despite that exoneration, Trump bought full page ads in NYPost and other local publications in NY that called for their execution?

Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the good elderly citizens of Aberdeen Scotland, whose access to water was cut of because of the Golf Course Trump built there?

When a man like Trump who lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring, is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs, when a man like Trump who is a traitor and a malignancy in our nation and who represents a clear and present danger to our democracy and the rule of law, excuse me if I am unable conceive of Trump, ever, as a 'martyr'.

Oh, but MAGAtts DO like to paint Trump as a martyr, don't they?

This is one of the worst and most disturbing examples I've seen in my lifetime...

Huckabee appears to have sold his soul...

Hitler taunted his own people that he did not care if parents agreed with him because he owned the minds of their children...

In our own times, we need to resist such cults of personality...

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God save the Republic.

 

[GLASNOST]

a study results show that maga is 14% to 16% of the population. Thats not enough to guarantee a victory.

14 to 16% is normally not enough to guarantee any victory but I am sceptical of that "study result". To make things over-simplistic let us pretend that the remainder of the population is 84 to 86% and that it represents non-Trump or Biden supporters. Do you think that's true? I don't.

 

[dudmuck]

14 to 16% is normally not enough to guarantee any victory but I am sceptical of that "study result". To make things over-simplistic let us pretend that the remainder of the population is 84 to 86% and that it represents non-Trump or Biden supporters. Do you think that's true? I don't.

the entire results:

The 7,255 respondents who made up the analytic sample for this study comprised 1,128 MAGA Republicans (15.0%, 95% CI 14.1%, 15.9%), 640 strong Republicans (8.3%, 95% CI 7.6%, 9.0%), 1,571 other Republicans (21.3%, 95% CI 20.3%, 22.4%), and 3,916 non-Republicans (55.3%, 95% CI 54.1%, 56.6%). We estimate that MAGA Republicans, as defined, account for 33.6% (95% CI 31.9%, 35.4%) of all Republicans and15.0% (95% CI 14.1%, 15.9%) of the adult population of the US, or approximately 38.8 million (95% CI 36.5 million, 41.1 million) people.

Understanding how they write these numbers down --> the 38.8 million people is the mid-point estimate of number of MAGA republicans. But they always specify a 95 percent confidence interval, so you know the uncertainty. It means there is a 95% confidence that there are between 36.5 million and 41.1 million MAGA supporters.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It is at least ten million less than that.

 

[GLASNOST]

14 to 16% is normally not enough to guarantee any victory but I am sceptical of that "study result". To make things over-simplistic let us pretend that the remainder of the population is 84 to 86% and that it represents non-Trump or Biden supporters. Do you think that's true? I don't.

the entire results:

The 7,255 respondents who made up the analytic sample for this study comprised 1,128 MAGA Republicans (15.0%, 95% CI 14.1%, 15.9%), 640 strong Republicans (8.3%, 95% CI 7.6%, 9.0%), 1,571 other Republicans (21.3%, 95% CI 20.3%, 22.4%), and 3,916 non-Republicans (55.3%, 95% CI 54.1%, 56.6%). We estimate that MAGA Republicans, as defined, account for 33.6% (95% CI 31.9%, 35.4%) of all Republicans and15.0% (95% CI 14.1%, 15.9%) of the adult population of the US, or approximately 38.8 million (95% CI 36.5 million, 41.1 million) people.

Understanding how they write these numbers down --> the 38.8 million people is the mid-point estimate of number of MAGA republicans. But they always specify a 95 percent confidence interval, so you know the uncertainty. It means there is a 95% confidence that there are between 36.5 million and 41.1 million MAGA supporters.

OK, but they were 100% sure there were WMDs in Irak and 100% sure Hillary Clinton would beat Trump to the White House.

 

[kyzr]

a study results show that maga is 14% to 16% of the population.
Thats not enough to guarantee a victory

LOL! Is that Dr. Jill's finding?

 

[surada]

Deny, deny, deny. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

The OP left out that American banks will still not loan money to Donald Trump because of his bankruptcies and fraud. Or that his charitable foundation was shut down by the State of New York because of illegal fundraising, illegal campaign contributions, and misuse of funds raised for personal and business expenses.

Trump has been barred from serving on the Board of Directors of any charity in the state of New York.

Trump has been a lifelong criminal and a complete asshole all of his adult life. Everything in OP post is true. This is why New Yorkers stand outside Trump's trial chanting "We hate Trump" and why only 12% of the citizens of New York city, voted for Donald Trump.

You have to be a complete moron to believe that Trump is a "great businessman" or should be President, but you are that moron.

Narcissistic mortification is “intense fear associated with narcissistic injury and humiliation ... the shocking reaction when individuals face the discrepancy between an endorsed or ideal view of the self and a drastically contrasting realization”.

 

[dblack]

Trump, a martyr? Are you kidding?

A true martyr dies for their cause. So, here's hopin!