Hamas atrocities expose peril of liberals’ long embrace of Palestinians and Iran

[JoeB131]

Nonsense.
There was not a single "death camp" in Germany or any area the US troops got to.
All the death camps were tiny and totally obliterated before the Russians got to them, since they were almost all in Poland.

My father liberated a concentration camp at Nordhausen. The shit he saw there haunted him for the rest of his life.

I'm the first one to criticize the Zionists for their bad behavior, but we should never minimize what happened during the war.

 

[JoeB131]

And by the way, Saddam NEVER turned against the US.
Before Desert Storm, he asked US ambassador Glasspie, for permission to invade Kuwait for stealing oil.
The US ambassador said we did not care.
We turned traitor to Saddam, not the other way around.

Glaspie was an idiot.

But Saddam didn't say he was going to take over the country and depose the government. Had he said that, even a moron like Glaspie would have said something.

Regardless, once Bush and the UN said invading Kuwait was unacceptable, he should have withrdrawn.

 

[Rigby5]

Virtually no Democrats supported this. Unfortunately, many Democrats think there is a middle ground between the Israelis and the Palestinians, and there is not. There cannot be a two state solution.

I agree there can not be a 2 state solution because Israel has blockaded the Palestinians and are not allowing them the means of survival.

But since there are 13 million Palestinians and only 7 million Israelis Jews, a 1 state solution mean voiding the 1948 UN partition, and going back to Palestine with an Arab majority.

 

[Rigby5]

My father liberated a concentration camp at Nordhausen. The shit he saw there haunted him for the rest of his life.

I'm the first one to criticize the Zionists for their bad behavior, but we should never minimize what happened during the war.

The point is that Nordhausen was not a death camp, and like most work camps, were mostly socialists, not Jews.
Notice that Nordhausen had over 60 buildings.
Death camps do not need 60 buildings, since the only survivors from one day to the next are a couple hundred workers to carry the bodies.
The main problem was dysentery, cholera, and typhus.
They make people skinny, even though they are not being starved.

There certainly were death camps in the war, but they were not in Germany, and very few in Germany knew they existed.

 

[Rigby5]

Glaspie was an idiot.

But Saddam didn't say he was going to take over the country and depose the government. Had he said that, even a moron like Glaspie would have said something.

Regardless, once Bush and the UN said invading Kuwait was unacceptable, he should have withrdrawn.

First of all, Kuwait was actually part of Iraq.
It had been stolen by the British around 1890, and the Emir was a Bedouin who was not native and brutal.
Look at a map, obviously Kuwait is the coastline of Iraq.

Second is that Saddam could not let the Emir regain control, since he would then again start stealing oil.
Third is that Saddam did immediately negotiate a withdraw, and we then illegally annihilated his troops on the Highway of Death.

 

[Rigby5]

This issue falls under the heading of "Identity Politics" for me. The American Left has made a huge mistake in the way it has handled this issue over the years, and the atrocities we have seen in the last few days can't be denied.

There is no defending this.

There is way to defend what Israel has done for 80 years and is doing now.
Hamas is not only justified, but you have to wonder why they waited so long?

 

[Soupnazi630]

First of all, Kuwait was actually part of Iraq.
It had been stolen by the British around 1890, and the Emir was a Bedouin who was not native and brutal.
Look at a map, obviously Kuwait is the coastline of Iraq.

Second is that Saddam could not let the Emir regain control, since he would then again start stealing oil.
Third is that Saddam did immediately negotiate a withdraw, and we then illegally annihilated his troops on the Highway of Death.

Wrong

'Kuwait has every right to be a free and independant country

The highway of death was misnamed and an exaggeration but also perfectly legal even is thousands had been killed

You are an absolute liar as he never negotiated a withdraw

 

[Soupnazi630]

There is way to defend what Israel has done for 80 years and is doing now.
Hamas is not only justified, but you have to wonder why they waited so long?

Hamas is not justyified and they started this

The bimbing of the king daviud hitel was retaliation

 

[Doc7505]

Not only that, but the Arabs who were there first, are ancestor of those there 5000 years before the Hebrew invaders of 1000 BC.
Nor did the Hebrew gain ownership by invading, since they massacred women and children when Joshua captured Jericho.
Atrocities forfeit any rights.

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Why is it that people like you are allowed on these boards. Please refer to Wikipedia to revise your statement.
See: Arabs - Wikipedia
As opposed to:

https://www.quora.com/How-far-back-does-Judaism-go-Who-was-one-of-the-first-Jewish-people

 

[Doc7505]

Nonsense.
There was not a single "death camp" in Germany or any area the US troops got to.
All the death camps were tiny and totally obliterated before the Russians got to them, since they were almost all in Poland.

And the reports say the IDF killed 90 Associated Press and arrested 400 reporters.

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Try the following camps as German territorial camps turned death camps...
Dachau, found in Southern Germany near Munich. Buchenwald, establish near the city Weimar and Sachsenhausen located 21 miles South of Berlin.
Please engage your brain after you learn not to lie or know that your facts are correct.

 

[Hector12]

The threat to democracy, right, law, justice, and freedom all come from Zionist fanatics who deliberately started this 80 years ago.

Israel has the only democratic government in the Near East.

 

[Hector12]

Not only that, but the Arabs who were there first, are ancestor of those there 5000 years before the Hebrew invaders of 1000 BC.
Nor did the Hebrew gain ownership by invading, since they massacred women and children when Joshua captured Jericho.
Atrocities forfeit any rights.

The Jews came in peace. The Arabs started the atrocities by attacking the Jews. I agree with you, "Atrocities forfeit any rights." When the Palestinians initiated the use of violence against the Jews they deserved to be deported.

 

[Hector12]

I agree there can not be a 2 state solution because Israel has blockaded the Palestinians and are not allowing them the means of survival.

But since there are 13 million Palestinians and only 7 million Israelis Jews, a 1 state solution mean voiding the 1948 UN partition, and going back to Palestine with an Arab majority.

There is plenty of room for the Palestinians in the Arabian Desert. Let;s see if they can make the desert bloom like the Jews did.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The PROOF is in the actions coming from the White House, and the contrast of the actions of 2 administrations > TRUMP & BIDEN.
Click the link >>

Trump Weakened Hamas ; Biden Strengthened Them

For all the leftist idiots who are blabbering tht the $6 Billion of frozen Iranian $$ being held in Qatar, can't go to Iran, this thread is especially for you. Are the current attacks against Israel due to the actions of the Biden administration ? The answer is a clear cut YES. After 2 years...

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Biden is looking for praise

Multiple U.S. Troops Injured Following Large Missile Barrage On Base In Iraq | The Daily Wire

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[Doc7505]

Biden is looking for praise

Multiple U.S. Troops Injured Following Large Missile Barrage On Base In Iraq | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

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Allowing our troops to be exposed to attack and danger makes Biden look weak in the eyes of Muslims and the world.
We've lost two men already. There will be more if we don't react decisively against the Houthi's and ultimately Iran.
All in all it's Biden and his followers that have become a Clear and Present Danger to America.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

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Allowing our troops to be exposed to attack and danger makes Biden look weak in the eyes of Muslims and the world.
We've lost two men already. There will be more if we don't react decisively against the Houthi's and ultimately Iran.
All in all it's Biden and his followers that have become a Clear and Present Danger to America.

Because of Biden, by November we will be in a major war with Iran, fighting Russians in Ukraine, experiencing Palestinian terrorists here, and have criminals doing whatever they want. But, maybe it will be bad enough that the invasion slows.

 

[Doc7505]

Because of Biden, by November we will be in a major war with Iran, fighting Russians in Ukraine, experiencing Palestinian terrorists here, and have criminals doing whatever they want. But, maybe it will be bad enough that the invasion slows.

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Gee whiz, I hope you're wrong, but the incompetency and erratic behavior of Joe Biden anything is possible.

 

[surada]

Hamas atrocities expose peril of liberals’ long embrace of Palestinians and Iran​

Biden’s denunciation of grisly terror attacks can’t mask the left's years of coddling of Tehran and Gaza, experts say.​

Hamas atrocities expose peril of liberals’ long embrace of Palestinians and Iran

Biden’s denunciation of grisly terror attacks can’t mask the left's years of coddling of Tehran and Gaza, experts say.

justthenews.com

10 Oct 2023 ~~ By John Solomon

As evidence of civilian atrocities mounted, President Joe Biden emerged in public to unequivocally denounce the Hamas terror attacks as “pure unadulterated evil” but his repudiation cannot hide the long embrace by his party’s liberals of the two main actors behind the staggering violence that rocked the Middle East: the political and military leadership in Palestine and their backers in Iran.
Even as American hostages remained in peril, the beheaded torsos of innocent civilians were collected from Israeli streets and Hamas and Tehran celebrated the bloodletting, many liberals in America were still trying to express empathy for the attackers.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib flew a Palestinian flag outside her official congressional office, while Rep. Ilhan Omar suggested Israel’s counteroffensive might be a “war crime.” Biden’s secretary of state tweeted, then deleted a call for a “ceasefire” just as Israel ramped up its rescue missions. The U.S. Department of State’s Palestinian Affairs Office literally implored Israel to “refrain” from “retaliatory attacks” before reversing course. On the streets of liberal cities and the campuses of left-leaning universities like Harvard, many even suggested Israel deserved blame for Hamas’ attacks.
~Snip~
“The danger is not just to Israel,” former Obama-era Israeli Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told Just the News on Tuesday night. “The enemy we face in Hamas is the same enemy that America faces in ISIS and Al Qaeda. It is a radical, medieval, vicious, brutal, barbaric, jihadist group.
“It’s not a clash of civilizations … it's a clash between a civilization and a different universe, a very dark and evil universe. And you have to believe in evil,” Oren said during an interview conducted from a bomb shelter with the Just the News, No Noise television show. “These are people who behead babies, repeatedly rape young women and strip them and march them naked through the streets of Gaza so they can be spat upon and beaten, who take entire families out and shoot them.”
Former Trump-era Deputy National Security Adviser Victoria Coates said the blame isn’t just with Palestinian-sympathetic congresswomen and academics, it also falls on the Biden administration for sending millions in aid to Hamas-controlled Palestine and for appeasing Iran with eased oil sanctions and a recent $6 billion in unfrozen assets in the name of seeking a nuclear deal even as Tehran continues to sponsor terrorism and toss out UN nuclear inspectors.
~Snip~
Biden administration officials dismissed such criticisms, insisting that despite the deleted pro-Hamas tweets and prior appeasements to Iran that the president stands unequivocally with Israel and its right to defend itself. Administration officials also have refused to confirm reports from European intelligence that Iran helped plan the attack, even after Hamas made comments confirming such a connection.
Longtime intelligence expert Fred Fleitz, the former chief of staff to the National Security Council, said while it may take days or a few weeks for U.S. intelligence to pinpoint the exact nature of Iran’s role in the attacks, he has little doubt Tehran was involved.
~Snip~
Security experts said there is strong reason to fear Iranian-backed terrorists could have already crossed the porous southern U.S. border to be activated in the future against Americans, bringing the horror of what just happened in Israel closer to home. Biden himself raised the concern during his Tuesday press conference.
Coates added that “Maybe the biggest threat from that particular alphabet soup of terrorism is Hezbollah. Because we know Hezbollah has been active in Latin America, they've carried out attacks against Jewish targets in Argentina, for example. So they're here. And the notion that they haven't tried to cross the border in the last two and a half years is pretty disingenuous.”


Commentary:
On Saturday Biden briefly commented and was not to be seen for four days.
Meanwhile his toadies continue to make excuses for their lack of intelligence gathering and funding of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah.

He wants Americans to be as afraid of Hamas as Israelis are, but the US has no control over Israel's choices.

Israel should go ahead and invade Iran. They have been threatening to do so since the 1990s.

 

[surada]

Because of Biden, by November we will be in a major war with Iran, fighting Russians in Ukraine, experiencing Palestinian terrorists here, and have criminals doing whatever they want. But, maybe it will be bad enough that the invasion slows.

There's no reason for the US to attack Iran. The Israelis should go ahead. They have no solutions for the Palestinians and it's been 80 years of bloodshed and theft.

 

[1srelluc]

Nonsense.
There was not a single "death camp" in Germany or any area the US troops got to.
All the death camps were tiny and totally obliterated before the Russians got to them, since they were almost all in Poland.

And the reports say the IDF killed 90 Associated Press and arrested 400 reporters.