New York AG: Trump now under criminal investigation

[AntonToo]

Apparently it has moved from civil to criminal. Just announced on MSNBC. No link yet.

Lawrence O'Donnell will be discussing it shortly.

This ought to do it. They could never get him when he was just a citizen of New York renovating buildings, but now that he was president, and moved to Florida - well, now they got the evidence.

They couldn’t “get him” because prosecutors had no access to his tax returns or his financial records. Without “reasonable cause” they had no evidence upon which to ask for them.

The prosecution of Michael Cohen for campaign finance violations in paying hush money to Stormy Daniels, and lying to both Congress and in FBI about Trump’s Moscow Project, opened the “probable cause” door. As did Cohen’s revised testimony to Congress about his participation in bank fraud, tax fraud, and wire fraud in the Trump corporation’s day to day operations.

The Trump Family Trust is facing tax fraud allegations in the handling of the Fred Trump Estate, as well as a lawsuit from Mary Trump and her brother that her Aunts and uncles defrauded them out their father’s 1/5 share of their Grandfather’s $300 estate.

Then there’s the tax shenanigans with the upstate New York property.

Trump made a lot of enemies in New York and New Jersey, with his bankruptcy scams, stiffing contractors, and clogging the courts with his nuisance law suits.

Everybody knew he was dirty - he bragged about the illegal shit he did, but nobody could prove it. There was no evidence. Now they have evidence.

LOL now they have Trumps tax records and they have announced no charges.

Now go poop in your pants again

? Actually Vance had to get the returns before he could file the charges he is apparently filing.

I don't see Trump doing time over this. I'll be shocked if he actually paid what he should of though.

are you saying IRS audits are bumkis?

The allegation is that Trump's organization assigned different values to the same properties - low ball valued for taxes and different highball values for getting loans. So whether Trump's orgainaztion paid the IRS the correct amount on the assets claimed in not the issue. He may or may not of. I don't know. But if Vance can show Trump's organizaiton essentially cooked up two sets of books .... then imo Trump's gonna have to pay some money. IT SEEMS that Vance is going to say its all the accountant's fault, and if he can hang the poor sob for fraud .... I'm not sure how that works, because the accountant wasn't actually benefitting. But it seems Vance has some plan to put the accounts scrotum in a vice grip and turn the screws.

How exactly is pocketing tax-free 1.4 million "not benefitting"?

 

[struth]

the mueller report, the adam shifty parody impeachment and now this...do the dembots ever get tried of looking like fools?


Once again, the most investigated person in history is fully exonerated

Psst dummy, Mueller is a Republican, put in place by another Republican after Trump abruptly fired a Republican FBI Director named Comey.

hahahaa ok

either way, the left can’t handle or accept his investigation results clearing the president

 

[Aldo Raine]

Apparently it has moved from civil to criminal. Just announced on MSNBC. No link yet.

Lawrence O'Donnell will be discussing it shortly.

LMAO @ the Stupid Shit Leftist believe .....

Propaganda is KING !!!

Do ewe mean like "stolen election",Pizzagate, Jewish space lasers, Mexico will pay for the wall, etc? Do ewe mean like that?
MAGA

 

[Aldo Raine]

Proving again, Trump did very little to roll back the Progressive Jihad on America

Should have stopped at "tRump did very little"
MAGA

 

[AntonToo]

the mueller report, the adam shifty parody impeachment and now this...do the dembots ever get tried of looking like fools?


Once again, the most investigated person in history is fully exonerated

Psst dummy, Mueller is a Republican, put in place by another Republican after Trump abruptly fired a Republican FBI Director named Comey.

hahahaa ok

either way, the left can’t handle or accept his investigation results clearing the president

Special Investigation SPECIFICALLY didn't clear Trump on the many episodes of Obstruction of Justice detailed in Part II.

Barr told you exactly that.

 

[struth]

the mueller report, the adam shifty parody impeachment and now this...do the dembots ever get tried of looking like fools?


Once again, the most investigated person in history is fully exonerated

Psst dummy, Mueller is a Republican, put in place by another Republican after Trump abruptly fired a Republican FBI Director named Comey.

hahahaa ok

either way, the left can’t handle or accept his investigation results clearing the president

Special Investigation SPECIFICALLY didn't clear Trump on the many episodes of Obstruction of Justice detailed in Part II.

Barr told you exactly that.

no Mueller said that, snd left it up to his boss and Congress. His boss was surprised but the AG office found no crimes, and then Congress got it and further investigated and found nothing to impeach over...exonerating him

 

[AntonToo]

the mueller report, the adam shifty parody impeachment and now this...do the dembots ever get tried of looking like fools?


Once again, the most investigated person in history is fully exonerated

Psst dummy, Mueller is a Republican, put in place by another Republican after Trump abruptly fired a Republican FBI Director named Comey.

hahahaa ok

either way, the left can’t handle or accept his investigation results clearing the president

Special Investigation SPECIFICALLY didn't clear Trump on the many episodes of Obstruction of Justice detailed in Part II.

Barr told you exactly that.

no Mueller said that, snd left it up to his boss and Congress. His boss was surprised but the AG office found no crimes, and then Congress got it and further investigated and found nothing to impeach over...exonerating him

Thats a fantasy. Congress never officially investigated Obstruction Charges because Trump couldn't help himself from conducting yet another illicit drug deal in Ukraine, which he got impeached for.

Barr took it upon himself personally to clear Trump on Obstruction of Justice, exactly as he promissed to do in his letter to Trump when auditioning for the AG position. Barr has always been a unitarian and his guiding principle more or less is that if the President does it, then it's legal.

If you would bother to actually read the report it specifically states that the special investigation could not bring charges under DOJ guidelines and that being so, they simply laid out the facts of the 10 potential episodes of Obstruction of Justice. If you would actually read those episodes with even half way objective mind you would clearly see a pattern of a president trying to subvert the special investigation and influence the witnesses to not co-operate, which is a clear crime.

Mueller has rebuffed Barr's mischarachterization of the report and his testimony to Congress has stated plainly that Obstruction charges can be brought after Trump is no longer the president.

 

[jc456]

The allegation is that Trump's organization assigned different values to the same properties - low ball valued for taxes and different highball values for getting loans. So whether Trump's orgainaztion paid the IRS the correct amount on the assets claimed in not the issue. He may or may not of. I don't know. But if Vance can show Trump's organizaiton essentially cooked up two sets of books .... then imo Trump's gonna have to pay some money. IT SEEMS that Vance is going to say its all the accountant's fault, and if he can hang the poor sob for fraud .... I'm not sure how that works, because the accountant wasn't actually benefitting. But it seems Vance has some plan to put the accounts scrotum in a vice grip and turn the screws.

And?

 

[jc456]

bendog Which is what every other property owner in NY has done. GEEBUS...

right? harassment at trump if no other businesses are under investigation.

 

[jc456]

The Trump grand jury will be in session until November 2021 - so I fully expect more superseding indictments will be forthcoming. Trump and his children must be very nervous.

why?

 

[colfax_m]

bendog Which is what every other property owner in NY has done. GEEBUS...

right? harassment at trump if no other businesses are under investigation.

It’s funny how you guys sometimes don’t even pretend like Trump’s organization isn’t criminal.

 

[jc456]

It’s funny how you guys sometimes don’t even pretend like Trump’s organization isn’t criminal.

funny how you can't prove it is. Dude, I only go by facts and evidence. and so far you all are 0 for

 

[colfax_m]

It’s funny how you guys sometimes don’t even pretend like Trump’s organization isn’t criminal.

funny how you can't prove it is. Dude, I only go by facts and evidence. and so far you all are 0 for

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

 

[jc456]

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

so? what is the criminal behavior? and, he isn't convicted so he's innocent. Please stop pushing your nightmares.

 

[Nostra]

bendog Which is what every other property owner in NY has done. GEEBUS...

right? harassment at trump if no other businesses are under investigation.

It’s funny how you guys sometimes don’t even pretend like Trump’s organization isn’t criminal.

What has it been convicted of?

 

[Faun]

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

so? what is the criminal behavior? and, he isn't convicted so he's innocent. Please stop pushing your nightmares.

Uhh, no, he's not innocent ... he presumed to be innocent. There is a difference until an court sorts it out.

 

[Nostra]

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

so? what is the criminal behavior? and, he isn't convicted so he's innocent. Please stop pushing your nightmares.

Uhh, no, he's not innocent ... he presumed to be innocent. There is a difference until an court sorts it out.

Any day now, right Fawnboi?

 

[colfax_m]

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

so? what is the criminal behavior? and, he isn't convicted so he's innocent. Please stop pushing your nightmares.

15 counts. Read the indictment.

 

[Nostra]

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

so? what is the criminal behavior? and, he isn't convicted so he's innocent. Please stop pushing your nightmares.

15 counts. Read the indictment.

What are the counts? Just give us the most serious one.

 

[colfax_m]

I have an indictment that lays out criminal behavior.

so? what is the criminal behavior? and, he isn't convicted so he's innocent. Please stop pushing your nightmares.

15 counts. Read the indictment.

What are the counts? Just give us the most serious one.

Read the Indictment (Published 2021)

The Trump Organization and a top executive were charged by the Manhattan district attorney’s office on Thursday with fraud and tax crimes.

www.nytimes.com