I don't have a dog in that fight, so whoever wins wins.
Do NOT lump the US with the Zionists.
Good. That makes it simpler.
Well, we're talking about Iran but the whole Middle East so it's almost impossible to talk about war crimes (or terrorism) against Iran or the Middle East without "lumping" the US and the Zionists together. Maybe you have something specific in mind that can be discussed that would isolate one from the other?
Yes, I did. And I think you know why.
You missed my point about "first blood". The US attacked Iran without provocation "first blood" and that makes Iran's response "counter terrorism". Neither the US nor the Zionists have that distiction.
They can't even fix their electricity grid since 2021 - you dolt. - the factual main cause for these demonstrations in Iran.
TACO and Bibi already failed in the first week - not sufficient ground troops, not even a feasible operational plan to take on a vast country like Iran, and totally failed to get foremost their allied Gulf states involved, not even to mention to obtain NATO support.
Narcissistic fraudsters and liars, have NEVER won a war.
No I don't.
The "first blood" was many (47) years ago. Iran went thru the JCPOA since 2015 and ended up on the verge of nuclear weapons and ICBM delivery systems. Trump made the national security decision that the lead terrorist state cannot have nuclear weapons. You can call it "first blood", but its the US being a good cop when the rest of the world is hiding under their beds praying.
You are not aware that since the Islamic revolution reclaimed Iran from Anglo-American control that Iran has tried to normalise diplomatic relations with the US. The US turned its back on Iran's offers every time. In a sense it's a matter of a series of "first blood" since 1953. I understand that you are shielded from such events due to Western censorship and propaganda so I cannot blame you for not knowing.
Really? For what? They have no navy. And if they needed enriched uranium just for that, they would not need 400 pounds of it and they could just BUY it for that purpose off one of the super-powers.
Iran is prohibited from enriching their own uranium as they have demonstrated a gross irresponsibility with it and a long-stated desire to use it to destroy other nations as a purely offensive weapons to be used along purely ideological lines.
Words right out of THEIR OWN MOUTHS as to what their intentions are for.
Nope, you are obviously ignorant of nuclear physics, try looking it up in any reputable publication what the facts on enrichment are.
Good for them, like you would know. ITMT, Iran doesn't get any. Nuclear subs are designed to patrol the globe months at a time; Iran has no need to patrol the globe, they need to worry about things much closer to home.
Not your freaking business until you have any signs that they tryed to make nuclear weapons.
Doesn't matter. If they want their peaceful nuclear program (whatever it is) - it's their right.
What, in the world, do you think you are, to lecture Iran (or any other state, for that matter) about irresponsibility and destruction of other nations? America commited a lot of acts of illegal and unprovoked aggressions, and simply not in moral position to lecture anybody.
Still just your words.
I'm pretty sure I'm much better informed than you.
Still not your business.
Done. Already have those signs. No nukes for Iran.
Wrong. They have no right to continually threaten/block/bully/disrupt the lives and livelihood of peaceful nations.
Apparently the only nation with the might to do so, especially when the stated intent by Iran is to DESTROY AMERICA.
Unless you have a degree in physics with about 50 years study of physical science, I doubt it.
Iran MADE it our business. No nukes for Iran. Pretty soon, no country for Iran neither.
If they leave NPT, and, looks like, they (and not only they) will leave it soon, they will be able to buy nukes from North Korea, Pakistan, or even Russia (if Russia also withdrew NPT).
Sure. But neither USA, nor Israel are "peaceful nations". And Iran, as well as any other state, have right for self-defense.
Their main intent is self-preservation. And if you leave them only one way to survive - eliminate you, they just don't have other options. But may be, you'll be able to change yourself and live in peace with other nations (not that I believed in it).
"Having a degree" and "having actual knowledge" are two very different things. I doubt that you know the difference between neutron and neutrino.
Or, may be, no nukes for America. I mean, de-nuclearisation of America will be much more useful for the world than de-nuclearisation of Iran.
Neither USA nor Israel attack other countries unless they themselves are threatened. Just today, Hezbollah launched 30 more missiles into Israel.
So, USA have right to defend themselves against terrorist nation looking to build nukes who promises for 50 years to destroy the USA. And Israel has right to defend themselves from Iranian-backed attacks via Hamas, Palestine, Hezbollah and Houthis. Iran has no right to defense when they are the ones doing all of the offending.
This is the one thing the world cannot accept, a continuation of the mad mullah regime of terror and bullying the world over. If they were civilized and an asset to the international community, they'd have no need for "self-preservation."
Come and take 'em. We invented the nuke.
I guess it depends on your POV. Obviously, people who live in scumbag shithole nations looking to expand their regimes might see America as an obstacle in their path.
Because it is Israel, who invaded Lebadon on first place. And, of course, America commited numerous acts of unprovoked and illegal aggressions, finished with illegal and unprovoked aggression against Iran (say nothing about invasion in Venezuela, Iraq, Serbia, Syria and many other places).
Its all just a glimpse of your imagination. Iran didn't attack America. It was America who had attacked Iran.
It's Israel attacked Iran, including attacks against civilian infrastructure and murder of civilian scientists. Israel is a terrorist state.
C'mon. Comparing with American Evangelists and Satanists, mullahs are reasonable and sane people. They didn't start any aggressive war.
Do you mean, that America and Israel, who have need for "self-preservation" are not civilized members of the international community?
You couldn't invented even the hamburger. International scientific community, most of whom were not Americans, invented the nuke.
Come and take 'em. We invented the nuke.
Ok. As you wish.
Wrong. They invaded Lebanon after Lebanon lied to them claiming Hezbollah were disarmed then Hezbollah launched 3000 missiles at them. Israel invades now to drive the terrorist Hezbollah away from their borders.
Name two, proving no provocative actions and siting the laws broken.
Nothing illegal or "unprovoked" about self-defense, you just said so. Iran is the aggressor. You talk like a brainwashed idiot.
Indeed, Iran has attacked us for 50 years seizing embassies, sinking ships, killing thousands of our people while threatening death to America. They do that no more. Iran is finished. We pulled the plug on that bad record.
It was Israel invaded Lebadon, not vice versa.
Iran -2026, Iraq-2003.
Iran didn't commit any act of aggression. Of course, they support some foreign organisations but so does America. It's just active "foreign policy".
Bla-bla-bla. America and America's proxies had killed many more Iranians.
No. Russians, Chinamen, Better Koreans, Vietnamese have killed many more Americans without any consequences. There are only two reasons why you attacked Iran: 1) Iran has oil&gas; 2) Iran doesn't have nukes.
Hezbollah has been attacking Israel from Lebanon for ages. Try to keep up.
Meaningless dribble. No stated laws broken. Iran was a week or two away from getting effective nukes and Iraq was agreed by the international community to be a state sponsor for al-Quada who attacked NYC.
Nah, embassy seized, thousands killed, ships sunk, decades of war financed in the Middle East, attacks against a dozen nations there, death threats against America and Israel, demonstrated 4,000 mile reach, 400 pounds of actionable uranium--- yep, no aggression there!
Mostly the bad guys.
Proof once again Russia and China got nothing. China only good at stealing ideas and technology.
Too bad Iran will never have nukes.
Hezbollah was created because of Israelis invasion in Southern Lebadon in 1982 and was caused by it.
Neither Iran, nor Iraq attacked USA. And your insinuations about WMD abd NYC is nothing but illegal pretext to attack peaceful (but oil-rich) states.
Yep, no of what you said is aggression. America produced much more enriched Uranium and American proxies killed much more Iranians.Nah, embassy seized, thousands killed, ships sunk, decades of war financed in the Middle East, attacks against a dozen nations there, death threats against America and Israel, demonstrated 4,000 mile reach, 400 pounds of actionable uranium--- yep, no aggression there!
We'll see. If they want nukes - they will get them.
BULL.
BULL. Al-Quada did not get here on their own. Iraq was very friendly sponsor of them.
America does not go around chanting death trying to destroy other countries. America acts when there is no other choice and all effects for peaceful negotiation have failed.
America has no proxies.
If they get nukes, we nuke them, then we bust the ass of whoever gave them to them.
