My Brother is a Cop and It's Getting Bad

For generations the behavior of the cops. Even the “good ones” has been at the minimum toeing the line.

When I was a boy there was a song. Attitude Adjustment by Hank Williams Jr. He smacks his wife around. A little attitude adjustment. He whomps his Brother in Law. Same thing. Then the police show up and give him an attitude adjustment.

Funny in the song. Amusing in fiction. A real problem in real life. Because it is tough to tell who really needs the attitude adjustment isn’t it?

For generations these attitude adjustments have been given various names and terms. Tune him up is a popular one with police. When the guy runs and they chase at the end they are not satisfied with just cuffing him and taking him to jail. They want to teach him a lesson. Give him the attitude adjustment. So they tune him up before they take him in.

And for generations this has been going on. Older cops teach younger cops. This is what we do. And you don’t mention it.

In another thread I mentioned a lesson from my Dad. If you have to lie about it, you already know you did the wrong thing.

And it isn’t just the Democrat run cities. It happens in small towns and bedroom communities.

Now. Your brother and the cops of today are paying for that generational practice. One that still goes on today. It is curious though. The same people who explain that Blacks should be happy being targeted because so many are criminals object to any cops being so much as sneered at because all of them are not criminal.

For generations the police have managed the situation as us versus them. Now that them have the us outnumbered, it suddenly is a bad thing.

Now. I am going to speak honestly. I have explained how we got here. Part of how we got here anyway. Now I am going to say I really am sorry that your Brother and others are enduring this. It is going to get worse before it gets better. And the first way it can start down that path is avoiding the euphemisms about resisting and all that.

Behave in public the same professional way they behave in court when trying to put forth the image of professional competence to the jury.

Bust the cops who do the things that have contributed to the mess we are in. Reform the cops. Don’t accept less than proper behavior.

Change the outlook. Stop seeing the communities as “Them” and they will eventually respond the same.
If you run and the cops have to chase you down, you need an attitude adjustment.

Then if this is so, why do the cops lie about it? Back to my Dad’s lesson. If you have to lie you know you’ve done the wrong thing.
That's no longer true though------------to do the right thing now is often treated as a crime...sometimes it is now correct to lie. If I had to shoot an intruder in my home especially if he wasn't white--I'd likely drag the body off to an alligator pit for disposal instead of calling a cop because the world has gone crazy.

Nonsense. First. If you shoot an intruder call the cops and then call a lawyer. Tell the cops your name and point out the evidence and then shut your fucking mouth. Say nothing else.

The problem is that many bad shootings have been lauded by people who believe that the attitude adjustment is needed. One example is the McMichaels here in Georgia.

Or the Walter Scott shooting in South Carolina. It probably would not have been a good shooting before he prettied the site up. But afterwards it couldn’t be anything but bad. Worst case before the pretty was fired. Perhaps a trial where he would be found not guilty. After. He was screwed by his own actions.

The McMichaels were wrong.

Now the problem arises when the self appointed experts decide this was all political. They write long posts or short missives about how the McMichaels were screwed. They weren’t. But the idea that a criminal got what he deserved appeals to those who think an attitude adjustment is warranted.

It isn’t.
 
No, we’ve noticed increased arrogance from Wisconsin blacks recently. They must have a well-connected communication system among them, like the Chinese.
 
We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.

And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Sad to hear that your brother, who I am sure is a good cop, is reaping the whirlwind from the bad cops who were left to do their bad things for so long. More than anything else, that is the reason for bad cops to be weeded out ASAP.
 
I'm 65 and many years ago (late 1960's) we were chased out of our neighborhood on the south side of Chicago because the neighborhood went from white and low crime to black and high crime in a matter of a year or so. Then my parents went through it again as their suburb was infiltrated by section 8 housing and the drugs and gangs that came with. They bought a home for $28,000 in 1968 and sold it for $40,000 in 2015. That home in any other neighborhood would have sold for north of $300,000. Nobody wants to live in that environment.

Sorry but I'll be honest, those experiences tainted me.
 
We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.

And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.
Sad to hear that your brother, who I am sure is a good cop, is reaping the whirlwind from the bad cops who were left to do their bad things for so long. More than anything else, that is the reason for bad cops to be weeded out ASAP.
Correll disagrees that your brother is a good cop?
 
You'd be angry too if you got stopped about twenty times in a row because a felony warrant came up in the system and turned out to be bogus. The cops have got to reform their "system".

The warrant system belongs to the courts. Police cannot issue an arrest warrant, felony or otherwise. Only courts can issue a warrant.

If you have a problem with the system, do see your local court registrar.

I also recommend you be really abusive and confrontational with them... they will respond more quickly that way.
 
I also recommend you be really abusive and confrontational with them... they will respond more quickly that way.
So you've got a vested interest in the alleged proceedings? Do tell! Are you showing up at 9:00am Monday, or do you need to be subpoenaed for cross-examination?
 
We were supposed to have dinner at my brother's house yesterday, but he called me up when he got home from his shift and cancelled. He wanted to just chill after the shift he worked yesterday. He patrols a higher crime neighborhood, which is mostly blacks, and he said the past couple of weeks have gotten really bad. People aren't respectful at all. They're rude and belligerent towards him. He's been called names, taunted, it's been constant chaos. He stopped a car yesterday because the guy came up with a warrant in the system. Immediately, when he had the guy step out of his car he started screaming something about George Floyd and then became nasty and resistant. My brother and his partner, who arrived shortly after, had to tackle the guy to the ground in order to get him restrained. While this was going on he said a dozen or so blacks came running up on them, whipping out their phones recording, calling them names, taunting them. He said it was super nerve racking because in the middle of the skirmish he had no idea if any of these other people, who had no business being up that close to them, were going to run up and attack them from behind. He said it was like being in the middle of a zoo. He is starting to consider leaving the department at this point because it's become incredibly dangerous for them.

And my brother is Asian and the officer who responded to back him up is Hispanic, so this wasn't even a white cop thing; it's just an anyone in uniform thing. We're told we should be judging people by their character and not their skin color, but apparently these same people think it's fine to judge anyone in a uniform as evil.

Yes, but the police as a whole ARE evil.
Just look at history.
It goes back to slavery, illegal Jim Crow laws, illegal laws like Prohibition, the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, 2 strikes laws, illegal discrimination against felons, etc.
Police are not always wrong, but they are wrong often enough so that they are more of a problem than they are worth.
They mistakenly think they have additional authority that everyone else does not have, and that is not only illegal, but dangerous.
 
It goes back to slavery, illegal Jim Crow laws, illegal laws like Prohibition, the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, 2 strikes laws, illegal discrimination against felons, etc.

Every one of those laws passed by elected politicians... not by police.
 

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