Mueller Coloring Outside The Lines

[IM2]

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I'd like to say that I'd love some Leftist Icon to be the Victim of a miscarriage of justice. A witch hunt, violation of Client Attorney Privilege, an Illegal Search and seizure and accusations with no evidence and no identifiable crime named.

That would teach them a lesson that they'd never forget!!! And damn would they deserve it!

But that would mean we lost America and both Conservatives and Liberals will have lost their freedoms .

I realize to an American Hating Liberal the 2nd and 4th Amendments are annoyances, but they protect scum like Hillary Clinton too.

In other words, The Warrant to Raid Manafort's Private Residence is INVALID and Constitutes ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
Manafort already agreed to cooperate and hand over the documents the FBI wanted. There was no reasonable reason to believe he would destroy any of the documents, unlike Hillary Clinton who deleted 33,000 documents that were under TWO COURT ORDERED Preservation Orders.


The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement


Once the Fourth Amendment applies to a particular search or seizure, the next question is under what circumstances is a warrant required. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution expresses a preference for searches, seizures, and arrests conducted pursuant to a lawfully executed warrant (see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 [1978]).

A warrant is a written order signed by a court authorizing a law-enforcement officer to conduct a search, seizure, or arrest. Searches, seizures, and arrests performed without a valid warrant are deemed presumptively invalid, and any evidence seized without a warrant will be suppressed unless a court finds that the search was reasonable under the circumstances.

Requirements for a Valid Search Warrant

An application for a warrant must be supported by a sworn, detailed statement made by a law enforcement officer appearing before a neutral judge or magistrate. The Supreme Court has said that probable cause exists when the facts and circumstances within the police officer's knowledge provide a reasonably trustworthy basis for a man of reasonable caution to believe that a criminal offense has been committed or is about to take place (see Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 [1925]).

How to Establish Probable Cause

Probable cause can be established by out-of-court statements made by reliable police informants, even though those statements cannot be tested by the magistrate. However, probable cause will not lie where the only evidence of criminal activity is an officer's affirmation of suspicion or belief (see Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 [1964]). On the other hand, an officer's subjective reason for making an arrest does not need to be the same criminal offense for which the facts indicate. (Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 [2004]).

The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement - FindLaw

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

None of what you claim is happening to Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

AGAIN WHAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE DID MUELLER LIST IN HIS PETITION TO A SO CALLED NEUTRAL JUDGE FOR A WARRANT TO SUPPORT A RAID BASED UPON "PROBABLE CAUSE"?

BITE ME LEFTIES!
And guess what SCUM.....A Petition for a GRAND JURY REQUIRES EVEN MORE INFORMATION AND PROOF THAN A WARRANT.
WHERE IS THE PETITION? There is no LEGAL GRAND JURY IMPANELED! & THE WARRANT ISSUED FOR A SPLASHY RAID, IS INVALID.

Had they found something, Mueller & Comey would have leaked the RAID and what they found like a menstruating bitch on her period to THE MEDIA!

SO Y'all can fuck off, and decrease the surplus population!

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

Link? Proof of party affiliation? Should Mueller (R) hire Ivanka to even things out?

He doesn't dare hire a Republican because he knows that person will rat out him and his whole sleazy crew. Mewler is more experienced in the ways of Washington in that regard.

 

[IM2]

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

I doubt that. Mueller is a republican. You need to stop believing Trumps lies.

That's just a plain fact, moron, and Mewler changed his registration to "independent."

No, it's Donald Trump lying to you and you believing him.

 

[IM2]

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

It means exactly that. I am assuming nothing. You are doing all the assuming here. .

 

[IM2]

The FBI pulled this same stunt when the conducted the Waco raid. It's nothing new for them.

It's a Republican-created agency (Herbert Hoover) that was directed by a Republican (James Comey) before a Republican (Christopher Wray) was appointed recently to take his place.
Still not happy, bubby? Oh poor little thing. You're so fucked up.

Still waiting for him to point out the Dem in this Republican investigation.

All the people working for Mewler are Dims, you witless baboon.

Link? Proof of party affiliation? Should Mueller (R) hire Ivanka to even things out?

He doesn't dare hire a Republican because he knows that person will rat out him and his whole sleazy crew. Mewler is more experienced in the ways of Washington in that regard.

The problem with all your crazy is that if Trump is impeached another republican is president. So then you really need to stop believing Trumps lies.

 

[The Original Tree]

Especially with documents The FBI confiscated Prepared by Manafort's attorney clearly showed he was fully cooperating with The FBI, and was fully disclosing everything.

The confiscation of those documents prepared by his attorney to help Manafort fully comply with The FBI's requests is a gross violation of his rights, and clearly indicated that The Warrant was issued on False Pretenses!

Welcome to Last Days of The Weimar Democratic Republic!

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Mueller will find something that he can at least characterize as an irregularity. Then he will give Manafort, who was with the Trump campaign for a matter of days, a script to memorize. The script will contain all manner of accusations and "proofs" incriminating not only Trump but many others.

Mueller has a fistfull of democrat donors as his attorneys. All of them are anxious for a little something of what they bought. He has a briefcase full of activist democrat judges with their rubber stamps inked and ready.

The republic is dead. Long live... Well, long live nothing, really.

 

[The Original Tree]

What will we call the New Leftist America?

Nazi America won't work.maybe

The United States of Clintonista?

The United Socialist States of America?

The Communist States of Columbia?

Orwellian Oceania?

Mueller will find something that he can at least characterize as an irregularity. Then he will give Manafort, who was with the Trump campaign for a matter of days, a script to memorize. The script will contain all manner of accusations and "proofs" incriminating not only Trump but many others.

Mueller has a fistfull of democrat donors as his attorneys. All of them are anxious for a little something of what they bought. He has a briefcase full of activist democrat judges with their rubber stamps inked and ready.

The republic is dead. Long live... Well, long live nothing, really.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Especially with documents The FBI confiscated Prepared by Manafort's attorney clearly showed he was fully cooperating with The FBI, and was fully disclosing everything.

The confiscation of those documents prepared by his attorney to help Manafort fully comply with The FBI's requests is a gross violation of his rights, and clearly indicated that The Warrant was issued on False Pretenses!

Welcome to Last Days of The Weimar Democratic Republic!

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

Less than 24 hours after Manafort testified and turned over 20,000 documents, Mueller said he didn't believe he received all of what he requested. He never went over any of the testimony and certainly never looked at anything that was turned over.

It's a kangaroo court, everyone knows it.

 

[The Original Tree]

What I want to know is How In The Fuck Could Any Judge sign a warrant over Herr Mueller's "Feelings" that he didn't get all of the documents especially after The Storm Troopers were given 20,000 documents the day before.

Especially with documents The FBI confiscated Prepared by Manafort's attorney clearly showed he was fully cooperating with The FBI, and was fully disclosing everything.

The confiscation of those documents prepared by his attorney to help Manafort fully comply with The FBI's requests is a gross violation of his rights, and clearly indicated that The Warrant was issued on False Pretenses!

Welcome to Last Days of The Weimar Democratic Republic!

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

Less than 24 hours after Manafort testified and turned over 20,000 documents, Mueller said he didn't believe he received all of what he requested. He never went over any of the testimony and certainly never looked at anything that was turned over.

It's a kangaroo court, everyone knows it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

A hostile foreign power has attacked our electoral process. We need to start waterboarding these traitors until they cough up the intel. Our national security is at stake, and waterboarding provides very valuable intel and it will help us prevent the next attack.

I agree. Hillary isn't too old to waterboard.

 

[Borillar]

Mueller will find something that he can at least characterize as an irregularity. Then he will give Manafort, who was with the Trump campaign for a matter of days, a script to memorize. The script will contain all manner of accusations and "proofs" incriminating not only Trump but many others.

Mueller has a fistfull of democrat donors as his attorneys. All of them are anxious for a little something of what they bought. He has a briefcase full of activist democrat judges with their rubber stamps inked and ready.

The republic is dead. Long live... Well, long live nothing, really.

Well, if donations to democrats are the benchmark for determining impartiality, Trump and his family have donated to Democrat PACs and to Clinton. If your fears are founded, we can't trust the president and his family to not be working to undercut everything the president is doing.

 

[The Original Tree]

I'm shocked that Mueller didn't just put a bullet in Manafort's head and explain it all away like Comey explained Clinton's crimes away.

 

[IM2]

Especially with documents The FBI confiscated Prepared by Manafort's attorney clearly showed he was fully cooperating with The FBI, and was fully disclosing everything.

The confiscation of those documents prepared by his attorney to help Manafort fully comply with The FBI's requests is a gross violation of his rights, and clearly indicated that The Warrant was issued on False Pretenses!

Welcome to Last Days of The Weimar Democratic Republic!

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

Less than 24 hours after Manafort testified and turned over 20,000 documents, Mueller said he didn't believe he received all of what he requested. He never went over any of the testimony and certainly never looked at anything that was turned over.

It's a kangaroo court, everyone knows it.

And who did Mueller say this to? Because he hasn't had an interview yet, and in fact he can't.

 

[IM2]

I'm shocked that Mueller didn't just put a bullet in Manafort's head and explain it all away like Comey explained Clinton's crimes away.

Comey did not explain any crimes away.

 

[IM2]

Especially with documents The FBI confiscated Prepared by Manafort's attorney clearly showed he was fully cooperating with The FBI, and was fully disclosing everything.

The confiscation of those documents prepared by his attorney to help Manafort fully comply with The FBI's requests is a gross violation of his rights, and clearly indicated that The Warrant was issued on False Pretenses!

Welcome to Last Days of The Weimar Democratic Republic!

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

I doubt that because the information about this as far as evidence is concerned has not been made public by Mueller or anyone else working on that council.

 

[jc456]

I realize to an American Hating Liberal the 2nd and 4th Amendments are annoyances, but they protect scum like Hillary Clinton too.

In other words, The Warrant to Raid Manafort's Private Residence is INVALID and Constitutes ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE.
Manafort already agreed to cooperate and hand over the documents the FBI wanted. There was no reasonable reason to believe he would destroy any of the documents, unlike Hillary Clinton who deleted 33,000 documents that were under TWO COURT ORDERED Preservation Orders.


The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement


Once the Fourth Amendment applies to a particular search or seizure, the next question is under what circumstances is a warrant required. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution expresses a preference for searches, seizures, and arrests conducted pursuant to a lawfully executed warrant (see Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U.S. 385 [1978]).

A warrant is a written order signed by a court authorizing a law-enforcement officer to conduct a search, seizure, or arrest. Searches, seizures, and arrests performed without a valid warrant are deemed presumptively invalid, and any evidence seized without a warrant will be suppressed unless a court finds that the search was reasonable under the circumstances.

Requirements for a Valid Search Warrant

An application for a warrant must be supported by a sworn, detailed statement made by a law enforcement officer appearing before a neutral judge or magistrate. The Supreme Court has said that probable cause exists when the facts and circumstances within the police officer's knowledge provide a reasonably trustworthy basis for a man of reasonable caution to believe that a criminal offense has been committed or is about to take place (see Carroll v. United States, 267 U.S. 132 [1925]).

How to Establish Probable Cause

Probable cause can be established by out-of-court statements made by reliable police informants, even though those statements cannot be tested by the magistrate. However, probable cause will not lie where the only evidence of criminal activity is an officer's affirmation of suspicion or belief (see Aguilar v. Texas, 378 U.S. 108 [1964]). On the other hand, an officer's subjective reason for making an arrest does not need to be the same criminal offense for which the facts indicate. (Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 [2004]).

The Fourth Amendment Warrant Requirement - FindLaw

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

Or not

 

[jc456]

Seriously, this is getting out of hand, and I realize that many on THE LEFT want to move THE US to a more Totalitarian Leftist State, but they should think twice before advocating that.

The Patriot Act is an Abomination. Warrant-less Wiretapping is an Affront to The Nostrils.

Investigations without being able to name violations of US CODE or present evidence of a crime is tyranny against a Free People!

Calling for a Grand Jury if one even is impaneled without filing a Petition with a US Court Listing The Alleged US CODE VIOLATIONS is an Extreme abuse and NEGATION of DUE PROCESS!

And so ARE....Pre-Dawn Raids, on a private home by THE FBI signed off by a Consenting Judge in which NO CRIME can be claimed to have been committed on the so called warrant, nor have the so called Investigators been able to present even one shred of evidence to The American People as Justification for what they are even Investigating!

To borrow an overused and hysterical phrase from The LEFT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT!

Only we aren't hysterical......WE ARE PISSED!

Since when did Judges, and Un-Appointed Extra Legal Authorities, with UNLIMITED Extra CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS been allowed to RUN THIS COUNTRY?

And since when have our Duly Elected Representatives been allowed to be Criminally Negligent in conducting the business The American People have elected them to conduct, and have shirked their responsibilities, and have lost both THE WILL, and Courage to Govern?

It appears they no longer want THE RESPONSIBILITY granted them by The American People to carry out our will, to protect our rights, and to defend THE CONSTITUTION, and defend our way of life!

Perhaps it is time to take that responsibility back from an overgrown, and slothful government, put them on a diet with a balanced budget amendment, and enforce and enact rules which limit their terms, and powers.

Trump lawyer slams special counsel for 'gross abuse' in Manafort raid, challenges warrant

Stop crying. You were fine with all 900 Benghazi investigations that turned into investigations that had nothing to do with Benghazi and turned into an email investigation..

crying? you just didn't write that. the whiney left bitches trying to interfere in the country's business. you whiners? you all have king of the whiner hill

I did write it and you chicken wings are crying.

You are a true projectionist

 

[IM2]

the thing isn't that you're a asshole, but that you are a arrogant asshole who has no clue what you're talking about. You're link has nothing to do with the search warrant issued in this case. Do you even have a link to the actual warrant?

And btw fucktard chump for trump, I didn't vote for Hillary,

I doubt the actual link would be available.

But trump's lawyers made this statement:

"Dowd said that among the documents obtained by FBI agents were "privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees," according to Fox News.

"These failures by Special Counsel to exhaust less intrusive methods is a fatal flaw in the warrant process and would call for a Motion to Suppress the fruits of the search," he wrote."

Dude, you don't have to put a code section in a search warrant or anything else beyond an indictment. As UnoriginalTree's link actually pointed out, a warrant has to clearly specify what is suspected to be there to be seized and how that is relevant to a suspected criminal violation. However, Mueller is actually tasked to investigate what contacts Russia had with the Trump campaign, and that need not be a criminal investigation of Trump, although at this point I think we all know Mueller is looking into whether actual laws were broken.

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

Or not

There would have been no FBI going into t hat house had there not been probable cause.

 

[bripat9643]

If no crime is involved then they don't have a justification for a warrant.

4th Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Apparently they had probable cause.

How is that apparent?

He had to go to a judge with information which made the case for probable cause to get the warrant. That's how.

That doesn't mean he had such information. Your assumption that a leftwing judge wouldn't approve a worthless warrant doesn't pass the laugh test.

It means exactly that. I am assuming nothing. You are doing all the assuming here. .

ROFL! One thing I don't need to assume is the fact that you're an idiot.