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Your maps are incorrect those are questimates of where Kadesh Barnea is I provided proof that it was Mecca which was home to the Amelikites who left and went North to Egypt( the shepherd kings) The Israelites stayed there for 38 years…
thanks shimon------MAPS at that time were notoriously inaccurate----virtually dependentYour maps are incorrect those are questimates of where Kadesh Barnea is I provided proof that it was Mecca which was home to the Amelikites who left and went North to Egypt( the shepherd kings) The Israelites stayed there for 38 years…
Correct Irosie I find Genesis 16 esp verse 14 very very telling when Hagar fled Into thethanks shimon------MAPS at that time were notoriously inaccurate----virtually dependent
on legend as far as I know. The tragedy of investigation TODAY---is that mecca and
Medina cannot be excavated
As unusual You are correct Irosie I find I agree with you 100 percent maybe the tent of meeting found close to the Kaaba in Mecca has more meaning then the muslims realize after all Abraham‘s tent was always open to others..Hmmmmm….I find Genesis 16 where Hagar fled into the “wilderness “ ( don’t forget the Israelites wandered the wilderness on their way down to Kadesh Barnea) very telling esp verse 14 where she was at the well between “Kadesh “and she named it ….She could not have gone that far as she was pregnant this could prove that Abraham also stayed very close by.. So the Israelites esp under Moses would have past knowledge of this place.. Wink Wink Nudge Nudge to Surada ..I think the arabs as restitution should make a deal and trade Mecca for Jerusalem and let us rebuild our temple without any hassle unless they want us to open up a can of worms that effects their holy sites in Mecca and Medina and we claim them as ancient Israelite cities even older then Jerusalem..thanks shimon------MAPS at that time were notoriously inaccurate----virtually dependent
on legend as far as I know. The tragedy of investigation TODAY---is that mecca and
Medina cannot be excavated
Your maps are incorrect those are questimates of where Kadesh Barnea is I provided proof that it was Mecca which was home to the Amelikites who left and went North to Egypt( the shepherd kings) The Israelites stayed there for 38 years…
Be careful who you call a dumbass Surada as I have proven you incorrect on many occasions ( need I remind you of the Tamar gas fields across from Haifa that you claimed belonged to Gaza) I dont know if you do this on purpose or out of sheer ignorance.. Regardless your maps are erroneous and at best quesses by others who do not have the correct information… We can easily rectify the situation by opening up Medina and Mecca to archeological digs to find out if indeed these were ancient Israelite cities .., wink wink nudge nudge… I told you before that the things you think you know might be illusions and that before you go down the rabbit hole you should be careful when challenging others so far I haven’t really gone after that much but if you insist I can . You remind me of the mouse that goes for the cheese and gets shocked but keeps trying to get it.. It never seems to learn its lesson…Pay attention now by the way “ mouse “in Hebrew is “Akbar“….Puts an interesting slant on Isaiah “66 “ doesn’t it after all Moses “staff” ( the hashevet) swallowed up or consumed the other two serpents…… In case you miss the point the verse also mentions those who are behind a certain “ tree” eating swines flesh…Wink Wink…Hahahaha.. The Amelikites weren't on the Arabian Peninsula either, dumbass.
Be careful who you call a dumbass Surada as I have proven you incorrect on many occasions ( need I remind you of the Tamar gas fields across from Haifa that you claimed belonged to Gaza) I dont know if you do this on purpose or out of sheer ignorance.. Regardless your maps are erroneous and at best quesses by others who do not have the correct information… We can easily rectify the situation by opening up Medina and Mecca to archeological digs to find out if indeed these were ancient Israelite cities .., wink wink nudge nudge… I told you before that the things you think you know might be illusions and that before you go down the rabbit hole you should be careful when challenging others so far I haven’t really gone after that much but if you insist I can . You remind me of the mouse that goes for the cheese and gets shocked but keeps trying to get it.. It never seems to learn its lesson…Pay attention now by the way “ mouse “in Hebrew is “Akbar“….Puts an interesting slant on Isaiah “66 “ doesn’t it after all Moses “staff” ( the hashevet) swallowed up or consumed the other two serpents…… In case you miss the point the verse also mentions those who are behind a certain “ tree” eating swines flesh…Wink Wink…
Correct Irosie I find Genesis 16 esp verse 14 very very telling when Hagar fled Into the
The Widerness
As unusual You are correct Irosie I find I agree with you 100 percent maybe the tent of meeting found close to the Kaaba in Mecca has more meaning then the muslims realize after all Abraham‘s tent was always open to others..Hmmmmm….I find Genesis 16 where Hagar fled into the “wilderness “ ( don’t forget the Israelites wandered the wilderness on their way down to Kadesh Barnea) very telling esp verse 14 where she was at the well between “Kadesh “and she named it ….She could not have gone that far as she was pregnant this could prove that Abraham also stayed very close by.. So the Israelites esp under Moses would have past knowledge of this place.. Wink Wink Nudge Nudge to Surada ..I think the arabs as restitution should make a deal and trade Mecca for Jerusalem and let us rebuild our temple without any hassle unless they want us to open up a can of worms that effects their holy sites in Mecca and Medina and we claim them as ancient Israelite cities even older then Jerusalem..
Sarada is truly a mouse .. You certainly are not a lion as a Lion is not afraid to delve into mysteries that it didn’t know and would want to get to the bottom of…. What if I told you that you again that everything you think you know is an illusion.. You have posted nothing here of note and you have flooded the thread to hide the facts I brought forth are you not proud of yourself for hiding knowledge from others truly Mecca and Medina need to be opened to archeological digs so we can finally show the world just how deep the rabbit hole truly goes….Mecca
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The Romans took control of the area in the first century AD.
Sarada is truly a mouse .. You certainly are not a lion as a Lion is not afraid to delve into mysteries that it didn’t know and would want to get to the bottom of…. What if I told you that you again that everything you think you know is an illusion.. You have posted nothing here of note and you have flooded the thread to hide the facts I brought forth are you not proud of yourself for hiding knowledge from others truly Mecca and Medina need to be opened to archeological digs so we can finally show the world just how deep the rabbit hole truly goes….
You are incorrect as usual No such distinction, however, appears to be made in the biblical narrative, at least as regards the former two of these tribes; their national character is everywhere the same, and the different localities in which we find these Amalekites may be easily explained by their habits, which evidently were such as belong to a warlike nomade people (Reland, Palest. p. 78 sq.; Mannert, Geogr. VI, 1, 183 sq.). Arabian writers mention Amalika, Amalik, Imlik, as an aboriginal tribe of their country, descended from Ham (Abulfeda says from Shem), and more ancient than the Ishmaelites (D'Herbelot, Bibl. Orient. s.v. Amlac; De Sacy, Excerpta ex Abulf. in Pococke's Specim. p. 543 sq.; Michaelis, Spicileg. 1, 170 sq.). They also give the same name to the Philistines and other Canaanites, and assert that the Amalekites who were conquered by Joshua passed over to North Africa (Ewald, Isr. Gesch. 1, 300, 450). Philo (Vita Moysis, 1, 39) calls the Amalekites who fought with the Israelites on leaving Egypt Phoenicians. The same writer interprets the name Amalek as meaning "a people that licks up or exhausts" (Legis Allegor. 3, 66). From the scriptural notices of their location south of Palestine (Nu 13:29), in the region traversed by the Israelites (Ex 17:8 sq.), and their connection with the Ammonites (Jg 3:13), Midianites (Jg 6:3; Jg 7:12), Kenites (1Sa 15:6), as well as their neighborhood to the Philistines (1Sa 27:8), Mount Soir (1Ch 5:26), and the city of Shur or Pelusium (1Sa 15:7), it is evident that their proper territory was bounded by Philistia, Egypt, Idumaea, and the desert of Sinai. — Van Iperen, Histor. Crit. Edom. et Amalecitar. (Leonard. 1768); Jour. of. Sac. Lit. Apr. 1852, p. 89 sq.; Noldeke, Ueber die Amalekiter. etc. (Gotting. 1863). As you can see the arabian writers have them as an indigenous tribe of Arabia and since they were nomadic and took their sheep with them they got around… Wink Wink nudge nudge... Get you trusty shovels ready Sarada we really need to dig up Mecca and Medina to check out its ancient Israelite heritage…LOLOL.. Mecca and Medina are over 1500 miles from where the Alameks lived.. You're not going to dig up Mecca and Medina... They don't need tourism liked the Israelis.
LOLOL.. Mecca and Medina are over 1500 miles from where the Alameks lived.. You're not going to dig up Mecca and Medina... They don't need tourism liked the Israelis.
I am fascinated. The romans controlled Mecca in the first century AD? Until when?Mecca
Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
The Romans took control of the area in the first century AD.
I know she opened the can of worms lol….But I even haven’t begun to open up the possibilities ….. There is so much more to the sands of Arabia then meets the eye and to Yemenite Jews that flourished in the area to the south for millennia ( sons of the south or word play on Ben Yameem son of my old age one of the tribes of Israel) regardless get those shovels ready time to have a look see on the whole Arabian peninsula not just around Mecca and Medina You are so right IrosieI am fascinated. The romans controlled Mecca in the first century AD? Until when?
Did they impose any laws? How did the people of Mecca respond to Roman rule?
Did they eventually impose christianity? Are there remnants of churches in the sands
of Mecca?
Sadly it will never happen-----in fact, there is no question in my mind that lots ofI know she opened the can of worms lol….But I even haven’t begun to open up the possibilities ….. There is so much more to the sands of Arabia then meets the eye and to Yemenite Jews that flourished in the area to the south for millennia ( sons of the south or word play on Ben Yameem son of my old age one of the tribes of Israel) regardless get those shovels ready time to have a look see on the whole Arabian peninsula not just around Mecca and Medina You are so right Irosie
No please enlighten me … Why.,,,,Never is a long time Irosie and Saudi’s Arabia is not that stable things happen suddenly in my way of seeing just like the Soviet Union fell very quickly when most could not fathom them falling…Sadly it will never happen-----in fact, there is no question in my mind that lots of
today's Yemenites are the descendants of people who were, back in the day, from
what is now called SAUDI ARABIA. The Yemenites have a big problem----can you guess
why I call my little apartment THE BROOKLYN GENIZA?
No please enlighten me … Why.,,,,Never is a long time Irosie and Saudi’s Arabia is not that stable things happen suddenly in my way of seeing just like the Soviet Union fell very quickly when most could not fathom them falling…