Moscow empire Needs to Be Defeated and Humiliated in Ukraine.

[Litwin]

Love the article. Well stated , still my qestion :

Finally, many fear the dissolution of Moscow empire , just as President George H.W. Bush feared the dissolution of the USSR and even went to Ukraine to agitate against Ukrainian nationalism in his 1991 “chicken Kiev” speech. We must not repeat his mistake. Let those nations that desire to leave Moscow empire do so.




As the exiled Moscow opposition politician Leonid Gozman argues, the ideal outcome is that Moscow empire is defeated and has to capitulate, as Germany did in 1945. The problem with the 1991 collapse of the USSR was that it was too peaceful; Muscovites did not feel defeated. They did not understand why the USSR had collapsed.

 

[luiza]

i hate that the US has baited Russia into depopulating Ukraine for the benefit of US corporations. There was no alternative though, since Ukraine, backed by the US, was poised to depopulate Donbass. What was Russia supposed to do?

Anyway, without a mass mutiny by Ukey troops, the slaughter of US and Ukey Naziswill continue but morale will not improve.

 

[Litwin]

Russia

 

[Bleipriester]

 

[BertramN]

Just as the trump Nazis always vote for the worst possible candidate the GOP offers up, Russian voters need and want an oppressive dictator. The Putin replacement will be no different than Putin, just a different face.








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[MarcATL]

Yes, Putin needs to utterly defeated and humiliated in Ukraine.

 

[Bleipriester]

Just as the trump Nazis always vote for the worst possible candidate the GOP offers up, Russian voters need and want an oppressive dictator. The Putin replacement will be no different than Putin, just a different face.








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Oppressive dictator? Putin? Any evidence?

 

[luiza]

Yes, Putin needs to utterly defeated and humiliated in Ukraine.

Careful .
We need to keep the US Nazis from total madness .
Ideally dear Uncle P needs Odessa and a rat run up to Moldavia .
This has to be done without humiliating the US so much that it totally loses "the plot" .

Imagine the Demented One ,the Stupid One , or , dangerous idiot Blinken trying to negotiate with President Super Cool and his killer dog Lavrov . Carnage.

 

[MarcATL]

Careful .
We need to keep the US Nazis from total madness .
Ideally dear Uncle P needs Odessa and a rat run up to Moldavia .
This has to be done without humiliating the US so much that it totally loses "the plot" .

Imagine the Demented One ,the Stupid One , or , dangerous idiot Blinken trying to negotiate with President Super Cool and his killer dog Lavrov . Carnage.

Biden is handling the Ukraine situation and Putin perfectly.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We keep hearing about how ukraine is "crushing, annihilating, destroying" russia. Yet, ukraine begs for billions, tanks, munitions, weapons, F-16s on a daily basis. If they were "crushing" russia, why would they need all this stuff? I think we know how the media pumps out propaganda. Ukraine isn't winning anything.

 

[easyt65]

i hate that the US has baited Russia into depopulating Ukraine for the benefit of US corporations.

WTF?

Russia invaded Ukraine twice now...and its somehow America's fault?!

YEARS ago, before Putin took over, he said in an interview that his greatest regret was watching the USSR collapse and separate into different states. He said one of his goals before he died was to retake all of those states and remake the USSR.

Ukraine is, IMO, an attempt to continue that goal...and he ran into a buzzsaw he did not expect.

 

[MarcATL]

We keep hearing about how ukraine is "crushing, annihilating, destroying" russia. Yet, ukraine begs for billions, tanks, munitions, weapons, F-16s on a daily basis. If they were "crushing" russia, why would they need all this stuff? I think we know how the media pumps out propaganda. Ukraine isn't winning anything.

Is Russia winning?

 

[Marener]

We keep hearing about how ukraine is "crushing, annihilating, destroying" russia. Yet, ukraine begs for billions, tanks, munitions, weapons, F-16s on a daily basis. If they were "crushing" russia, why would they need all this stuff? I think we know how the media pumps out propaganda. Ukraine isn't winning anything.

Everyone predicted Ukraine would fall within weeks. They’re clearly exceeding expectations given not only did they halt Russia progress, they’ve managed to push them back.

Our support is why that happened.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Is Russia winning?

Are they? Russia has their own propaganda machine, that lies to the populace, just like ours. Who is winning?

 

[MarcATL]

Are they? Russia has their own propaganda machine, that lies to the populace, just like ours. Who is winning?

I'm asking you. Is no one winning?

 

[Unkotare]

Yes, Putin needs to utterly defeated and humiliated in Ukraine.

Looks like it's well underway.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Everyone predicted Ukraine would fall within weeks. They’re clearly exceeding expectations given not only did they halt Russia progress, they’ve managed to push them back.

Our support is why that happened.

Ukraine isn't our concern the same way iraq wasn't our concern, the same way vietnam wasn't our concern, the same way korea wasn't our concern......

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I'm asking you. Is no one winning?

I'm asking questions too. Are they? What lying media should we believe?

 

[easyt65]

The fact that Russia did mot sweep through Ukraine and take it by now is an embarrassment to Putin. The story of the military might of the Russian empie has been exposed as an overblown tale. This is why Putin has reminded the world it still has Nuclear weapons and has threatened to use the.

Putin has gone too far to walk away with nothing, allowing this to end with Ukraine having defeated the great Vladimir Putin and Russia.

The real story, as we know, is Ukraine has lasted this long because of the money and military weapons ans supplies from many other countries.

 

[MarcATL]

Looks like it's well underway.

I happen to agree.