Minimum wage rate and labors’ market prices.

[danielpalos]

Why so much angst about the bottom 1-2% of hourly workers?

Toddsterpatriot, Congressional Budget Office’s , (i.e. CBO's) reports regarding the federal minimum wage rate indicate although it legally requires no less than the precise minimum rate, increases of that minimum rate substantially affect all USA’s lower wage rates. CBO considered anything less than $20 per hour in 2018, as being lower wage rates. That entails much more than 1 or 2% of USA’s entire work force. Respectfully, Supposn

What about all those who have had to go to school to reach 20 bucks an hour?
Do you think it's fair to those people?
Of course it isnt. They now need to be paid more than twice than that to make it right.
What do you think thats going to do to prices across the board?
Take a Nurse for example. Many of them dont make more than 20 bucks an hour. To be fair as you liberals claim she/he is now worth 40 bucks and hour.

Whose fault is it wages have not beat or kept up with inflation since the Clinton administration, alleged capitalist right wingers?

That would be the fault of to many immigrants flooding the low end job market.

The fault of Individuals pursuing their Liberty or right wing bigotry? Raise the minimum wage. Why has it not been raised for so long? If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation it would be around eighteen dollars an hour.

I've never worked for minimum wage in my life and I'm a high school drop out.

lol. I can resort to the fewest fallacies in every argument I have had; why can't you?

 

[danielpalos]

Minimum wage rate and labors’ market prices.

Products “Market prices” are affecting by various factors. Enforcement of government laws affecting regarding trade or contracts regarding a product, is often such a price affecting factor. Those using the term ‘market rates” applicable to a legally enforced minimum wage rate within a marketplace, are referring to a theoretical, indefinite, (i.e. not actually existing) price that excludes governments’ minimum wage laws as not existing.

Regardless of some persons preferences, governments’ minimum wage laws are existing factors applicable within marketplaces. Respectfully, Supposn

Why so much angst about the bottom 1-2% of hourly workers?

Why so much angst from right wingers about taxes?

Because we dont like our money to be stolen and given to the lazy?

lol. Employment is at-will. Stop whining.

Exactly.
If you dont have the will to better your life than you're doomed to work min wage jobs your whole life.

Exactly, stop whining about taxes.

 

[danielpalos]

What's the average wage in the Congressional Budget Office?
What's the mean wage in the Congressional Budget Office?
You can bet they make way more than minimum wage.

Independent, I suppose they do; but the Congressional Budget Office’s considerations were based upon USA’S average and median wage rates. Respectfully, Supposn

As long as our borders are open and non-Americans replace Americans in the workforce and various groups of people would rather hang out than study, people will always be subject to poverty level wages.

Proof, right wingers don't believe in freer trade just their socialism on a national basis. Why be hypocrites in socialism threads, Right Wingers?

I don't believe in Free Trade, I believe in Comparative Advantage.
Comparative Advantage renders Minimum Wage unnecessary.

Where we disagree, based on your responses to my previous posts, is that I believe the US has borders and Citizens while you think the US is open to everyone.
Trespassers are not Immigrants.

Where we disagree is in being legal to the laws. We don't have an Immigration clause and should have no illegals or illegal underclass. Natural rights means nothing to the right wing, just their socialism on a national and international basis.

I believe you're attempting to throw a sinker ball into this discussion.
When you say, should have no illegals or illegal underclass, do you mean guard our borders or that everyone who touches US soil automatically becomes a US citizen?

I mean upgrade Ellis and Angel Islands to also help with pandemic mitigation.

Dude....you're a fuken first class retard.

lol. I win by resorting to the fewest fallacies. Thanks for making it so easy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The minimum wage should be zero , I was just reading an article no where in the USA can a person afford a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage..so the $12 dollar minimum wage in Seattle is useless.

Bear513, to the extent of its purchasing power, the federal minimum wage rate reduces poverty among our working-poor. Respectfully, Supposn

"We all do better when we all do better".

here--education!!!
a lot of these '''''poooor''' people are concentrating on the police!!!!!!!!!!! and not the REAL problem = education = they are idiots

U.S. Poverty Statistics and Facts (Updated for 2025)

Learn about how poverty affects different demographics in the United States by looking at the most recent statistics and data.

www.debt.org

Yet, it is right wingers who claim the minimum wage should be zero; go figure.

Because it is zero..

It doesn't take even a liberal brain to figure out no matter what the minimum wage is it's still zero.

 

[Unkotare]

Why so much angst about the bottom 1-2% of hourly workers?

Toddsterpatriot, Congressional Budget Office’s , (i.e. CBO's) reports regarding the federal minimum wage rate indicate although it legally requires no less than the precise minimum rate, increases of that minimum rate substantially affect all USA’s lower wage rates. CBO considered anything less than $20 per hour in 2018, as being lower wage rates. That entails much more than 1 or 2% of USA’s entire work force. Respectfully, Supposn

What about all those who have had to go to school to reach 20 bucks an hour?
Do you think it's fair to those people?
Of course it isnt. They now need to be paid more than twice than that to make it right.
What do you think thats going to do to prices across the board?
Take a Nurse for example. Many of them dont make more than 20 bucks an hour. To be fair as you liberals claim she/he is now worth 40 bucks and hour.

Whose fault is it wages have not beat or kept up with inflation since the Clinton administration, alleged capitalist right wingers?

That would be the fault of to many immigrants flooding the low end job market.

The fault of Individuals pursuing their Liberty or right wing bigotry? Raise the minimum wage. Why has it not been raised for so long? If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation it would be around eighteen dollars an hour.

In America's FDR days, the High School dropout would become a tradesman making a decent living.
...

In fdr’s days? That drop out would be just as likely to spend all day standing in line for a bowl of soup, if he weren’t killed or thrown into a concentration camp.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why so much angst about the bottom 1-2% of hourly workers?

Toddsterpatriot, Congressional Budget Office’s , (i.e. CBO's) reports regarding the federal minimum wage rate indicate although it legally requires no less than the precise minimum rate, increases of that minimum rate substantially affect all USA’s lower wage rates. CBO considered anything less than $20 per hour in 2018, as being lower wage rates. That entails much more than 1 or 2% of USA’s entire work force. Respectfully, Supposn

What about all those who have had to go to school to reach 20 bucks an hour?
Do you think it's fair to those people?
Of course it isnt. They now need to be paid more than twice than that to make it right.
What do you think thats going to do to prices across the board?
Take a Nurse for example. Many of them dont make more than 20 bucks an hour. To be fair as you liberals claim she/he is now worth 40 bucks and hour.

Whose fault is it wages have not beat or kept up with inflation since the Clinton administration, alleged capitalist right wingers?

That would be the fault of to many immigrants flooding the low end job market.

The fault of Individuals pursuing their Liberty or right wing bigotry? Raise the minimum wage. Why has it not been raised for so long? If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation it would be around eighteen dollars an hour.

I've never worked for minimum wage in my life and I'm a high school drop out.

lol. I can resort to the fewest fallacies in every argument I have had; why can't you?

Do you ever change your posts?
It's always the same old bullshit with you.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Minimum wage rate and labors’ market prices.

Products “Market prices” are affecting by various factors. Enforcement of government laws affecting regarding trade or contracts regarding a product, is often such a price affecting factor. Those using the term ‘market rates” applicable to a legally enforced minimum wage rate within a marketplace, are referring to a theoretical, indefinite, (i.e. not actually existing) price that excludes governments’ minimum wage laws as not existing.

Regardless of some persons preferences, governments’ minimum wage laws are existing factors applicable within marketplaces. Respectfully, Supposn

Why so much angst about the bottom 1-2% of hourly workers?

Why so much angst from right wingers about taxes?

Because we dont like our money to be stolen and given to the lazy?

lol. Employment is at-will. Stop whining.

Exactly.
If you dont have the will to better your life than you're doomed to work min wage jobs your whole life.

Exactly, stop whining about taxes.

WTF does that even mean?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What's the average wage in the Congressional Budget Office?
What's the mean wage in the Congressional Budget Office?
You can bet they make way more than minimum wage.

Independent, I suppose they do; but the Congressional Budget Office’s considerations were based upon USA’S average and median wage rates. Respectfully, Supposn

As long as our borders are open and non-Americans replace Americans in the workforce and various groups of people would rather hang out than study, people will always be subject to poverty level wages.

Proof, right wingers don't believe in freer trade just their socialism on a national basis. Why be hypocrites in socialism threads, Right Wingers?

I don't believe in Free Trade, I believe in Comparative Advantage.
Comparative Advantage renders Minimum Wage unnecessary.

Where we disagree, based on your responses to my previous posts, is that I believe the US has borders and Citizens while you think the US is open to everyone.
Trespassers are not Immigrants.

Where we disagree is in being legal to the laws. We don't have an Immigration clause and should have no illegals or illegal underclass. Natural rights means nothing to the right wing, just their socialism on a national and international basis.

I believe you're attempting to throw a sinker ball into this discussion.
When you say, should have no illegals or illegal underclass, do you mean guard our borders or that everyone who touches US soil automatically becomes a US citizen?

I mean upgrade Ellis and Angel Islands to also help with pandemic mitigation.

Dude....you're a fuken first class retard.

lol. I win by resorting to the fewest fallacies. Thanks for making it so easy.

Nothing you post makes any sense whatsoever.

 

[danielpalos]

The minimum wage should be zero , I was just reading an article no where in the USA can a person afford a one bedroom apartment on minimum wage..so the $12 dollar minimum wage in Seattle is useless.

Bear513, to the extent of its purchasing power, the federal minimum wage rate reduces poverty among our working-poor. Respectfully, Supposn

"We all do better when we all do better".

here--education!!!
a lot of these '''''poooor''' people are concentrating on the police!!!!!!!!!!! and not the REAL problem = education = they are idiots

U.S. Poverty Statistics and Facts (Updated for 2025)

Learn about how poverty affects different demographics in the United States by looking at the most recent statistics and data.

www.debt.org

Yet, it is right wingers who claim the minimum wage should be zero; go figure.

Because it is zero..

It doesn't take even a liberal brain to figure out no matter what the minimum wage is it's still zero.

Why do you believe the minimum wage is zero?

 

[Supposn]

Minimum wage rate and labors’ market prices.
Products “Market prices” are affecting by various factors. Enforcement of government laws affecting regarding trade or contracts regarding a product, is often such a price affecting factor. Those using the term ‘market rates” applicable to a legally enforced minimum wage rate within a marketplace, are referring to a theoretical, indefinite, (i.e. not actually existing) price that excludes governments’ minimum wage laws as not existing.

Regardless of some persons preferences, governments’ minimum wage laws are existing factors applicable within marketplaces. ...

Because we don't like our money to be stolen and given to the lazy?

HereWeGoAgain, minimum wage rates affects upon lower wage rates range from critical upon the very lowest, to substantial upon higher rates within the lowest wage rate bracket. The Congressional Budget Office considered all rates below $20 per hour as being within the lower wage bracket.
Lower wage rate employees are not "given", they earn their wages. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[fncceo]

...if you are a dumbass, you don't deserve a minimum wage--you can give stupid people a $50 minimum wage and they will still be poor

You confuse Poor with stupid. Jesus the Christ was Poor.

And look what happened to him.

 

[harmonica]

...if you are a dumbass, you don't deserve a minimum wage--you can give stupid people a $50 minimum wage and they will still be poor

You confuse Poor with stupid. Jesus the Christ was Poor.

poor is stupid

 

[Flash]

Wages should be determined between an employee and employer.

The filthy government should stay out of it.

 

[Supposn]

Poor is stupid

Harmonica,information is the remedy for ignorance, but some never find it, and some are both too ignorant and/or too stupid to seek it. Some despicable people die no better than they have lived their lives.

Your posts indicate thus far you've apparently hit the trifecta. Almost all humanity would hope you someday rise above your present condition. Supposn

 

[danielpalos]

...if you are a dumbass, you don't deserve a minimum wage--you can give stupid people a $50 minimum wage and they will still be poor

You confuse Poor with stupid. Jesus the Christ was Poor.

And look what happened to him.

He did not use economics only morals. Ten simple Commandments from God not the Expense of Government!

 

[danielpalos]

...if you are a dumbass, you don't deserve a minimum wage--you can give stupid people a $50 minimum wage and they will still be poor

You confuse Poor with stupid. Jesus the Christ was Poor.

poor is stupid

According to the right wing who invented black codes.

 

[danielpalos]

Wages should be determined between an employee and employer.

The filthy government should stay out of it.

They are; only externalities to microeconomics are a Government purview.

 

[dblack]

The minimum wage should be zero ...

If it's going to be applied consistently, it has to be. Unless we're going to ban volunteers and interns.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Congressional Budget Office considered all rates below $20 per hour as being within the lower wage bracket.

Link?

 

[Flash]

Wages should be determined between an employee and employer.

The filthy government should stay out of it.

They are; only externalities to microeconomics are a Government purview.

Government sucks when it is telling us how to run our lives.

We sure as hell don't need the asshole corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, telling an employer what they have to pay an employee.

Fuck government!