Michigan School Shooter's parents James and Jennifer Crumbley get 10-15 year sentences

[Lord-Humungus]

They usually do not do things like that.

Marketplace host, BTW said it was a good day for tRump when the media merger went through. Does that make him biased for tRump?

They regularly do things like that.


But I do listen and actually really enjoy their Way with Word and Wait Wait Don’t Tell me shows.

 

[WEATHER53]

Parenting so inattentive you get jailed for it

 

[Crepitus]

They regularly do things like that.


But I do listen and actually really enjoy their Way with Word and Wait Wait Don’t Tell me shows.

I'm nt a fan of Way, but I do like wait wait.

Science friday is my fave. show

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

NPR reporting is always unbiased.

Jurinalists Give Us Trickle-Down Information

Despite what opinionists make us believe, it is impossible to have "reporting" that is unbiased. Facts are not explanations, so their truth is irrelevant. Saying that verification is all that matters is a trick to make us numbly accept the way reporters select and slant actual facts through emphasis and innuendo. True facts do not automatically lead to true conclusions about them.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No, they really don't. They tend to tell it like it is.

The opinion shows are another story. They don't just tilt left, they're waaay over there.

Socialist Realism

 

[Crepitus]

Jurinalists Give Us Trickle-Down Information

Despite what opinionists make us believe, it is impossible to have "reporting" that is unbiased. Facts are not explanations, so their truth is irrelevant. Saying that verification is all that matters is a trick to make us numbly accept the way reporters select and slant actual facts through emphasis and innuendo. True facts do not automatically lead to true conclusions about them.

You're way overthinking this.

Reporting the facts is what the news on NPR does.

The opinion shows will then give you their take on it.

The key here is to be able to tell the difference.

 

[Crepitus]

Socialist Realism

Totally irrelevant to the current discussion.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Parenting so inattentive you get jailed for it

Programmed Parental Paranoia

Blaming parents is just another way for the rulers to break up families. Now all parents are legally required to worry about what their kids might do, and will become Karens.

 

[Markle]

Parenting so inattentive you get jailed for it

???

 

[Markle]

You're way overthinking this.

Reporting the facts is what the news on NPR does.

The opinion shows will then give you their take on it.

The key here is to be able to tell the difference.

 

[Markle]

Programmed Parental Paranoia

Blaming parents is just another way for the rulers to break up families. Now all parents are legally required to worry about what their kids might do, and will become Karens.

Whose kids are they? They are not the responsibility of a "Village".

This kid had begged for help. He told them he was depressed over and over. He was so depressed that he asked the Ol' Man to see a doctor. The kid was told to go to his room and suck it up. Then he bought him a gun. A few days later...

 

[Crepitus]

It's OK, I know tRump supporters have an issue with that.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Whose kids are they? They are not the responsibility of a "Village".

This kid had begged for help. He told them he was depressed over and over. He was so depressed that he asked the Ol' Man to see a doctor. The kid was told to go to his room and suck it up. Then he bought him a gun. A few days later...

Bullying of Freaks Will Keep Them in Line

The father logically figured that if the school didn't have his son arrested, it was no big thing. After all the school shootings, all caused by leniency to weirdos, the school should be sued for negligence. The kid was a dangerous crybaby, spoiled into sadism by a permissive culture. When these incidents first started, what had changed since the 50s to promote them?

 

[GLASNOST]

Good for them. Now lets start holding the parents of every young, violent criminal accountable for their kid's crimes.

"James and Jennifer Crumbley, the first parents in America to be held criminally responsible for a school shooting by their child, were sentenced Tuesday in Oakland County Circuit Court to 10-15 years in prison each.

They were convicted by separate juries of four counts of involuntary manslaughter — one for each classmate their son murdered at Oxford High School on Nov. 30, 2021: Tate Myre, 16; Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; and Justin Shilling, 17. Each count carries a potential prison sentence of up to 15 years, though the sentences are expected to be served concurrently.

The prosecution is seeking 10- to 15-year prison sentences for each parent. Both Crumbleys, who have been jailed since their arrest Dec. 4, 2021, are asking to be sentenced to time served. Their son Ethan pleaded guilty to his crimes and is serving life in prison without parole."

James, Jennifer Crumbley to be sentenced in Oxford High killings after victim statements

Did the courts use the Charles Manson case as their guide?

 

[GLASNOST]

Programmed Parental Paranoia

Blaming parents is just another way for the rulers to break up families.

I honestly wouldn't want that particular family to stay together but I see your point.

Now all parents are legally required to worry about what their kids might do ...

If it's only by law that parents will worry about what their kids might do ...... well!

... and will become Karens.

The equation is well-established: Americans = Karens. If laws such as "stand your ground" is the deciding factor then yes, I can agree with you.

 

[Markle]

Bullying of Freaks Will Keep Them in Line

The father logically figured that if the school didn't have his son arrested, it was no big thing. After all the school shootings, all caused by leniency to weirdos, the school should be sued for negligence. The kid was a dangerous crybaby, spoiled into sadism by a permissive culture. When these incidents first started, what had changed since the 50s to promote them?