medical and who should pay for it.

I was told by the MAGAs that all life was sacred. Denying medical care can end that life. Therefor a true MAGA who is against abortion must be for healtchare for everyone.
Medical care is available to everyone. You can receive medical care any number of ways. Employer paid insurance, personally paid insurance, Obamacare, medicaid if you have no money or insurance, VA, or medicare. Which one do you fall under parasite?
 

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It is not enumerated in the constitution,

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


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However, healthcare is available to all--

with lots of caveats.


regardless of ability to pay in the US currently.

with lots of caveats - some ending in bankruptcy, then medicaid. IF that is available at all.

Sorry it doesn't fit your communist definition.

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Without Medicare people would have to work longer. That's immoral. Wrong, and anti Christian. Unless one is only for the upper class
when we created the retirement thing most people died before they reach it. Now a lot of people live to 100. And not only the wealthy. I planned on working till my 70's before I got disabled. It is therefore more feasible to raise the retirement age.
 
He earned it

Your side wants to give unearned benefits
I did one tour in the Navy, and I use the VA for my healthcare. The only complaint I have is how long it takes to get an appointment. If I call today, I might get an appointment in 6 or 8 months.
 
I did one tour in the Navy, and I use the VA for my healthcare. The only complaint I have is how long it takes to get an appointment. If I call today, I might get an appointment in 6 or 8 months.
As socialized medicine goes the VA seems to be about on par with the UK
 
I think it would be an excellent idea.
The idea isn't stupid, just not practical. It is sn enormous waste of money and time. We don't need that many soldiers. That so many young people might learn something essential about life would be good, but some other way than military training would be better. In any case, the connection with a reasonable healthcare system is unclear.
 
when we created the retirement thing most people died before they reach it. Now a lot of people live to 100. And not only the wealthy. I planned on working till my 70's before I got disabled. It is therefore more feasible to raise the retirement age.
So we want people in the workforce longer? That would hurt the nation and wreck the economy.
 
a.i. is going to take over all productive jobs leaving everyone living off of the dole.
Yeah sure

And by 1980 we’ll have flying cars and colonies on the moon
 
a.i. is going to take over all productive jobs leaving everyone living off of the dole.
This may in fact occur.
Yeah sure

And by 1980 we’ll have flying cars and colonies on the moon
We have had flying cars since Kitty Hawk. We would have colonies on the Moon if the Soviets had tried to have colonies on the moon. Now that the Chinese are interested we are suddenly interested again.
 
The idea isn't stupid, just not practical. It is sn enormous waste of money and time. We don't need that many soldiers. That so many young people might learn something essential about life would be good, but some other way than military training would be better. In any case, the connection with a reasonable healthcare system is unclear.

I guess I was imagining a volunteer force doing things we need done. Something along the lines of the old CCC that was used in the Great Depression.

But I think our society would not volunteer in great numbers.
 
The idea isn't stupid, just not practical. It is sn enormous waste of money and time. We don't need that many soldiers. That so many young people might learn something essential about life would be good, but some other way than military training would be better. In any case, the connection with a reasonable healthcare system is unclear.
IDK, Universal service could be a boon even in peace time. In addition to standard military training, each conscript could be taught a trade to the point that the military was self sustaining again. Those jobs could be used to bolster gov't services of all kinds and our workforce would be better for it after release from active duty.
 
This may in fact occur.

We have had flying cars since Kitty Hawk. We would have colonies on the Moon if the Soviets had tried to have colonies on the moon. Now that the Chinese are interested we are suddenly interested again.
I dont have a flying car

Do you?
 
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