medical and who should pay for it.

So someone else got stiffed for the $20K.
Like the rest of us innocent, healthy taxpayers. And our children, grandchildren, etc. for decades to generations to come.

Selfish comes in all sizes.
One form of 'small' selfish is expecting others to pay your bills and costs of living. Which we see too often and too much of lately. :rolleyes:

My health and usually my cause for the affliction, yet doesn't violate my or anyone else's morals and ethics to expect others, not related, to pay the huge obligation owed in expenses covered. :rolleyes: Also, insert sarcasm smiley

Your "right to life" doesn't mean others, even those not related to you, must pay for your care~expenses. Your "right" to life merely means YOU have responsibility to take care of yourself, &/or your body.
more……I got mine, screw everyone else
 
Not everyone can have VA, which I had for most of my life. VA dumped me because they don't cover long term care for class 8 VA recipients like me. but I still have medical. Medicaid is picking up my bills. In fact Medicaid will pick up all of my my medical bills. now it sucks bottom. level 2.5 star service. but Kamala's goal of medicare for all is misguided medicaid is available for all.

you can't have everything available for everyone without rationing everything. More medical research won't be done without some profit modem. everyone dreams of getting rich and that is what keeps the ball rolling.

"medicaid is available for all."

Nope, you have to qualify for it by not making enough money.
 
What I have changes more often than I get covered healthcare services. I see a primary care physician once or twice a year. Mostly I get dental and chiropractic work. I saw many chiropractors as they dropped in and out of my network and I had new networks around twice a year, until I went back to a better chiropractor who stopped accepting all medicaid. Now I pay cash. And then my state changed how it does medicaid. The HMO I had became less convenient for me. I decided it's time to opt out of all HMOs and have "straight medicaid." No more network changes. But I may need a new dentist and may start paying all cash for dental work.
 
What I have changes more often than I get covered healthcare services. I see a primary care physician once or twice a year. Mostly I get dental and chiropractic work. I saw many chiropractors as they dropped in and out of my network and I had new networks around twice a year, until I went back to a better chiropractor who stopped accepting all medicaid. Now I pay cash. And then my state changed how it does medicaid. The HMO I had became less convenient for me. I decided it's time to opt out of all HMOs and have "straight medicaid." No more network changes. But I may need a new dentist and may start paying all cash for dental work.
Republican ideal of medical care
 
Republican ideal of medical care
I look ahead to what will probably happen, regardless of ideals:
The government becomes unable and stops paying for healthcare. Without the handouts, the hospitals mostly go bankrupt. Corporate insurance is also gone. Many people leave the medical professions, especially the specialists. Remaining doctors adapt to what patients can afford. An old payment plan that may return is fraternal organizations such as Masons and Oddfellows pooling their money to hire docs on retainer to care for all members. Medical training becomes less academic and more apprenticeship.
 
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