Massacre Or Incident?

[DarkFury]

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Sorry for the levity, but I couldn't help myself.

No problem. If darkfurry sticks to his MO it will be awhile before he comes off with a link. Just look at the one he just gave.

Seems the fella was a Obama supporter!
“Rumors abound on white nationalist forums that Kessler’s ideological pedigree before 2016 was less than pure and seem to point to involvement in the Occupy movement and past support for President Obama.”
It Just CAME OUT Who Charlottesville White Supremacist Leader Was And Obama's Involved

Of course Obama was involved. LOL.

His ah background is strong democrat. REAL strong.

Wrong Jason Kessler. The person your link is referring to is a freelance writer that has worked with CNN, GQ, Bon Appétit, and The Travel Channel. He appears to mostly write about food and travel.

Articles by Jason Kessler:

Wall Street protests grow after unions' endorsement - CNNPolitics

What Testicular Cancer Is Really Like | GQ

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Seems we have dueling press.

 

[mdk]

Seems we have dueling press.

They are not the same person. One Kessler helped organize the rally and the other writes for Bon Appétit about how he is sick of people making out in restaurants. lol

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Xelor has chosen his hill to defend, and you might as well give it up.

OT:
I am perfectly content to "own" my mistakes on points of act when I make them. I do not cotton to being called a liar, particularly by someone who can't/won't read a dictionary's entries and faithfully represent what is found there.

Well, I'm sure as hell not going to argue with you about it. But you are perfectly aware that massacre usually connotes killing a large number of people. However, for Fury to use that as some kind of argument or defense is off point.

The fact is no one yet knows what happened.

The media won't let us know; we are not important, even if we greedily gobble up the Gerber mush they feed us. But, from experience with their poorly educated stupidity, we can unbend their slant. It is obvious that Antifa students from UVa provoked the counterattack, just as their historical role models did in the Chicago "police riot" in 1968. I hope the Feds prosecute every student leader on that Commie-Controlled Campus and ruin those ungrateful spoiled brats for life.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No problem. If darkfurry sticks to his MO it will be awhile before he comes off with a link. Just look at the one he just gave.

Seems the fella was a Obama supporter!
“Rumors abound on white nationalist forums that Kessler’s ideological pedigree before 2016 was less than pure and seem to point to involvement in the Occupy movement and past support for President Obama.”
It Just CAME OUT Who Charlottesville White Supremacist Leader Was And Obama's Involved

Of course Obama was involved. LOL.

His ah background is strong democrat. REAL strong.

Wrong Jason Kessler. The person your link is referring to is a freelance writer that has worked with CNN, GQ, Bon Appétit, and The Travel Channel. He appears to mostly write about food and travel.

Articles by Jason Kessler:

Wall Street protests grow after unions' endorsement - CNNPolitics

What Testicular Cancer Is Really Like | GQ

Search

Seems we have dueling press.

And truth gets blown away in the crossfire.

 

[Old Rocks]

Boy the press is busy convicting on this one huh? Almost as bad as they did Richard Jewel. They got him guilty and hung! Funny I thought in free just nations we had trials? I have seen more then a few videos of the incident. One shows a car right before his ALSO escaping a riotess crowd and with damage.

Oh it's possible he and his car were under attack. Did he hit the crowd out of confusion or injury? Only his car and his body will tell us that. Liberal press is screaming MASSACRE! When was the last time you read of a massacre of one? I myself worry about truth when the press deliberately over plays the story. Makes you kind of wonder what their agenda is and why the over blown narrative?

im taking the side of the man is DUE a fair investigation and possible trial by a jury NOT the press. Demanding national leaders of ANY office pass judgement BEFORE trial is both foolish and unethical and in some cases illegal.

Two years AFTER the press convicted Richard Jewel he was found to be a hero that had SAVED lives! And all he had to do was lose his freedom his girlfriend his job his friends and his home to prove it!

The press is NOT a court room and the sooner they quit acting that way the better for all of us!
Fury

You would NOT be saying this if the guy's name was Mohammed.

Ah yes I would. When did one LONE death become a massacare?

We have seen your posts, and you are lying. The bastard went to Charlottesville looking for trouble. He found it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

OLD-SCHOOL NEWSBOYS: "Extra! Extra! Hear All About It!"
NEW-AGE NEWSBOYS: "Extra! Extra! Hear All About Us!"

 

[Old Rocks]

Which liberal press is calling the terrorist attack a massacre? How about a link.

View attachment 143670

Sorry for the levity, but I couldn't help myself.

No problem. If darkfurry sticks to his MO it will be awhile before he comes off with a link. Just look at the one he just gave.

Seems the fella was a Obama supporter!
“Rumors abound on white nationalist forums that Kessler’s ideological pedigree before 2016 was less than pure and seem to point to involvement in the Occupy movement and past support for President Obama.”
It Just CAME OUT Who Charlottesville White Supremacist Leader Was And Obama's Involved

Of course Obama was involved. LOL.

His ah background is strong democrat. REAL strong.

And your background is pure Nazi. Nazi that kisses Putins ass. What a combination. So you automatically defend atrocities committed by Nazis.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Everybody will know his name...thanks to a dishonest media.

Will anyone know the name of that crazed Bernie supporter who tried to murder R congressmen on the baseball field? Oh...just another conveniently forgotten story by the DNC media.

It appears you don't know the name of the Representative who was shot and whom you've poorly attempted to use as a means for illustrating/amplifying your so-called point. LOL

Of course, many people knew the name of James Hodgkinson. How could anyone reading about the matter not learn that piece of information? It's not as though it and his image weren't widely communicated.

• Man who shot at GOP lawmakers had history of criminal run-ins
  
• Alexandria shooting: GOP's Steve Scalise among 5 wounded
  
• Google search results for "James Hodgkinson"
• Google search results for "Scalise shooter"

"Neanderthal," do us all a favor and crawl back into your cave and let people who actually live in, pay attention to and have accurate memories have a discussion absent your nonsense.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Do you think they will drop the Chancellorsville story in 2 days?

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Merely clicking on the first noted Google search results link I provided shows that various major media outlets carried the story over a period of at least two weeks. One can without even reading the content at the links see that on June 14th, CBS ran a story including the man's name and on July 2nd, the LA Times ran one that also included the man's name.

As far as I know, the DNC do not own any "elite" media outlets. Are you aware of any such media outlets to which the DNC holds title? If so, do tell, that is do tell, provided you don't, as you now twice in succession in your current discourse with me, fabricate the information you present.

Okay...whatever.

Regarding the MSM and DNC, some think the elite NYC/DC media control the D Party. It does appear this just might be the truth.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely? The MSM and the government are very much in bed together. They both want ever growing centralization...more control of the masses so the Oligarchy can do as they wish and of course get richer and more powerful.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely?

What six billionaires?

In 2011, the following was the state of control for about 90% of media.


The infographic below is now out of date, but it's one I came across that illustrates that the notion that six individuals, to say nothing of six liberals or, as you claimed, the DNC, do not control media.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

The difference betwee is that GE does not own NBC (or Comcast or any other media company) anymore. So that 6th company is now Comcast. And Time Warner doesn't own AOL, so Huffington Post, which like Breitbart News, the HuffPo was created by Andrew Breitbart [1], and isn't affiliated with Time Warner.

​

There are also major news organizations -- very reputable and influential, in fact -- not owned by what have been called the “big five" -- Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (owned by the decidedly not-liberal Rupert Murdoch, Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom.

• The New York Times is owned by the publicly-held New York Times Corporation.
• The Washington Post is owned by the publicly-held Washington Post Company.
• The Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times are both owned by the Tribune Company.
• Hearst Publications owns 12 newspapers including the San Francisco Chronicle, as well as magazines, television stations and cable and interactive media.

Then there is the matter of the ownership of the top five or six media companies, most of which are very widely-held. [2]

• Time Warner major shareholders
• Disney major shareholders
• News Corporation major shareholders
• Viacom major shareholders -- Viacom, as of early 2016 (I don't know what has changed), is unique among this group in that although it is a publicly traded company, the company's bylaws accord voting rights only to Class A shareholders. Summer Redstone controls 80% of the Class A Stock, which comprises 20% of the company's total market capitalization.
• CBS -- About 80% of CBS is held by institutional investors
  • Class A C5S1
  • Class A CBS.A
  • Class B CBS
• Bertelsmann -- Bertelsmann is unique among the "big six" in that it is controlled by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which is run by a few individuals.
  
  
  

The logical conclusion to draw from the information above is that despite the industry consolidation depicted in the graphic below, control of American media does not, as you claimed, reside in the hands of six billionaires.


This now, in the course of one conversation topic, thrice in succession have made utterly implausible and unfounded assertions that, were you to research the details of the matter -- it's obvious you don't "off the top of your head" know what you are talking about -- you, presumably, would not have made. I don't know how often you are so procrustean or what specific remarks of yours reflect that behavior, but I do know I'm beginning to recognize your ID and associate with it a recurring pattern of inanity. For now, I can only that you are not alone in doing so.

Note:

1. Andrew Breitbart, who died in 2012, said [Trump] wasn’t actually conservative. “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi,” Breitbart said during a 2011 appearance on Fox News. (Source)
   
2. Careful readers of the linked ownership/control content will observe that the Vanguard Group has a lot of positions in media corporations. The Vanguard Group is unique in that it is owned by its funds. The company’s different funds are then owned by the shareholders. Thus, the shareholders are the true owners of Vanguard. The company has no outside investors other than its shareholders. There is a good chance that readers here are shareholders in Vanguard Group.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Xelor has chosen his hill to defend, and you might as well give it up.

OT:
I am perfectly content to "own" my mistakes on points of act when I make them. I do not cotton to being called a liar, particularly by someone who can't/won't read a dictionary's entries and faithfully represent what is found there.

Well, I'm sure as hell not going to argue with you about it. But you are perfectly aware that massacre usually connotes killing a large number of people. However, for Fury to use that as some kind of argument or defense is off point.

The fact is no one yet knows what happened.

The media won't let us know; we are not important, even if we greedily gobble up the Gerber mush they feed us. But, from experience with their poorly educated stupidity, we can unbend their slant. It is obvious that Antifa students from UVa provoked the counterattack, just as their historical role models did in the Chicago "police riot" in 1968. I hope the Feds prosecute every student leader on that Commie-Controlled Campus and ruin those ungrateful spoiled brats for life.

"antifa" are usually dressed in black, wear masks and instigate violence. They are a minority and a violent one attracted to events where the press is actively video taping. They are not part of peaceful mass movements - such as Occupy Wall Street, marching to end war or in support of civil rights -.they are not "Commies"; they're anarchists who are violent who loot and destroy private property for kicks.

The victims in Saturday's violence were opposed to hate groups, a much different agenda than that of the anti fascist set.

 

[gipper]

Everybody will know his name...thanks to a dishonest media.

Will anyone know the name of that crazed Bernie supporter who tried to murder R congressmen on the baseball field? Oh...just another conveniently forgotten story by the DNC media.

It appears you don't know the name of the Representative who was shot and whom you've poorly attempted to use as a means for illustrating/amplifying your so-called point. LOL

Of course, many people knew the name of James Hodgkinson. How could anyone reading about the matter not learn that piece of information? It's not as though it and his image weren't widely communicated.

• Man who shot at GOP lawmakers had history of criminal run-ins
  
• Alexandria shooting: GOP's Steve Scalise among 5 wounded
  
• Google search results for "James Hodgkinson"
• Google search results for "Scalise shooter"

"Neanderthal," do us all a favor and crawl back into your cave and let people who actually live in, pay attention to and have accurate memories have a discussion absent your nonsense.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Do you think they will drop the Chancellorsville story in 2 days?

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Merely clicking on the first noted Google search results link I provided shows that various major media outlets carried the story over a period of at least two weeks. One can without even reading the content at the links see that on June 14th, CBS ran a story including the man's name and on July 2nd, the LA Times ran one that also included the man's name.

As far as I know, the DNC do not own any "elite" media outlets. Are you aware of any such media outlets to which the DNC holds title? If so, do tell, that is do tell, provided you don't, as you now twice in succession in your current discourse with me, fabricate the information you present.

Okay...whatever.

Regarding the MSM and DNC, some think the elite NYC/DC media control the D Party. It does appear this just might be the truth.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely? The MSM and the government are very much in bed together. They both want ever growing centralization...more control of the masses so the Oligarchy can do as they wish and of course get richer and more powerful.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely?

What six billionaires?

In 2011, the following was the state of control for about 90% of media.


The infographic below is now out of date, but it's one I came across that illustrates that the notion that six individuals, to say nothing of six liberals or, as you claimed, the DNC, do not control media.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

The difference betwee is that GE does not own NBC (or Comcast or any other media company) anymore. So that 6th company is now Comcast. And Time Warner doesn't own AOL, so Huffington Post, which like Breitbart News, the HuffPo was created by Andrew Breitbart [1], and isn't affiliated with Time Warner.

​

There are also major news organizations -- very reputable and influential, in fact -- not owned by what have been called the “big five" -- Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (owned by the decidedly not-liberal Rupert Murdoch, Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom.

• The New York Times is owned by the publicly-held New York Times Corporation.
• The Washington Post is owned by the publicly-held Washington Post Company.
• The Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times are both owned by the Tribune Company.
• Hearst Publications owns 12 newspapers including the San Francisco Chronicle, as well as magazines, television stations and cable and interactive media.

Then there is the matter of the ownership of the top five or six media companies, most of which are very widely-held. [2]

• Time Warner major shareholders
• Disney major shareholders
• News Corporation major shareholders
• Viacom major shareholders -- Viacom, as of early 2016 (I don't know what has changed), is unique among this group in that although it is a publicly traded company, the company's bylaws accord voting rights only to Class A shareholders. Summer Redstone controls 80% of the Class A Stock, which comprises 20% of the company's total market capitalization.
• CBS -- About 80% of CBS is held by institutional investors
  • Class A C5S1
  • Class A CBS.A
  • Class B CBS
• Bertelsmann -- Bertelsmann is unique among the "big six" in that it is controlled by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which is run by a few individuals.
  
  
  

The logical conclusion to draw from the information above is that despite the industry consolidation depicted in the graphic below, control of American media does not, as you claimed, reside in the hands of six billionaires.


This now, in the course of one conversation topic, thrice in succession have made utterly implausible and unfounded assertions that, were you to research the details of the matter -- it's obvious you don't "off the top of your head" know what you are talking about -- you, presumably, would not have made. I don't know how often you are so procrustean or what specific remarks of yours reflect that behavior, but I do know I'm beginning to recognize your ID and associate with it a recurring pattern of inanity. For now, I can only that you are not alone in doing so.

Note:

1. Andrew Breitbart, who died in 2012, said [Trump] wasn’t actually conservative. “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi,” Breitbart said during a 2011 appearance on Fox News. (Source)
   
2. Careful readers of the linked ownership/control content will observe that the Vanguard Group has a lot of positions in media corporations. The Vanguard Group is unique in that it is owned by its funds. The company’s different funds are then owned by the shareholders. Thus, the shareholders are the true owners of Vanguard. The company has no outside investors other than its shareholders. There is a good chance that readers here are shareholders in Vanguard Group.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

 

[usmbguest5318]

It appears you don't know the name of the Representative who was shot and whom you've poorly attempted to use as a means for illustrating/amplifying your so-called point. LOL

Of course, many people knew the name of James Hodgkinson. How could anyone reading about the matter not learn that piece of information? It's not as though it and his image weren't widely communicated.

• Man who shot at GOP lawmakers had history of criminal run-ins
  
• Alexandria shooting: GOP's Steve Scalise among 5 wounded
  
• Google search results for "James Hodgkinson"
• Google search results for "Scalise shooter"

"Neanderthal," do us all a favor and crawl back into your cave and let people who actually live in, pay attention to and have accurate memories have a discussion absent your nonsense.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Do you think they will drop the Chancellorsville story in 2 days?

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Merely clicking on the first noted Google search results link I provided shows that various major media outlets carried the story over a period of at least two weeks. One can without even reading the content at the links see that on June 14th, CBS ran a story including the man's name and on July 2nd, the LA Times ran one that also included the man's name.

As far as I know, the DNC do not own any "elite" media outlets. Are you aware of any such media outlets to which the DNC holds title? If so, do tell, that is do tell, provided you don't, as you now twice in succession in your current discourse with me, fabricate the information you present.

Okay...whatever.

Regarding the MSM and DNC, some think the elite NYC/DC media control the D Party. It does appear this just might be the truth.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely? The MSM and the government are very much in bed together. They both want ever growing centralization...more control of the masses so the Oligarchy can do as they wish and of course get richer and more powerful.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely?

What six billionaires?

In 2011, the following was the state of control for about 90% of media.


The infographic below is now out of date, but it's one I came across that illustrates that the notion that six individuals, to say nothing of six liberals or, as you claimed, the DNC, do not control media.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

The difference betwee is that GE does not own NBC (or Comcast or any other media company) anymore. So that 6th company is now Comcast. And Time Warner doesn't own AOL, so Huffington Post, which like Breitbart News, the HuffPo was created by Andrew Breitbart [1], and isn't affiliated with Time Warner.

​

There are also major news organizations -- very reputable and influential, in fact -- not owned by what have been called the “big five" -- Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (owned by the decidedly not-liberal Rupert Murdoch, Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom.

• The New York Times is owned by the publicly-held New York Times Corporation.
• The Washington Post is owned by the publicly-held Washington Post Company.
• The Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times are both owned by the Tribune Company.
• Hearst Publications owns 12 newspapers including the San Francisco Chronicle, as well as magazines, television stations and cable and interactive media.

Then there is the matter of the ownership of the top five or six media companies, most of which are very widely-held. [2]

• Time Warner major shareholders
• Disney major shareholders
• News Corporation major shareholders
• Viacom major shareholders -- Viacom, as of early 2016 (I don't know what has changed), is unique among this group in that although it is a publicly traded company, the company's bylaws accord voting rights only to Class A shareholders. Summer Redstone controls 80% of the Class A Stock, which comprises 20% of the company's total market capitalization.
• CBS -- About 80% of CBS is held by institutional investors
  • Class A C5S1
  • Class A CBS.A
  • Class B CBS
• Bertelsmann -- Bertelsmann is unique among the "big six" in that it is controlled by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which is run by a few individuals.
  
  
  

The logical conclusion to draw from the information above is that despite the industry consolidation depicted in the graphic below, control of American media does not, as you claimed, reside in the hands of six billionaires.


This now, in the course of one conversation topic, thrice in succession have made utterly implausible and unfounded assertions that, were you to research the details of the matter -- it's obvious you don't "off the top of your head" know what you are talking about -- you, presumably, would not have made. I don't know how often you are so procrustean or what specific remarks of yours reflect that behavior, but I do know I'm beginning to recognize your ID and associate with it a recurring pattern of inanity. For now, I can only that you are not alone in doing so.

Note:

1. Andrew Breitbart, who died in 2012, said [Trump] wasn’t actually conservative. “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi,” Breitbart said during a 2011 appearance on Fox News. (Source)
   
2. Careful readers of the linked ownership/control content will observe that the Vanguard Group has a lot of positions in media corporations. The Vanguard Group is unique in that it is owned by its funds. The company’s different funds are then owned by the shareholders. Thus, the shareholders are the true owners of Vanguard. The company has no outside investors other than its shareholders. There is a good chance that readers here are shareholders in Vanguard Group.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

I didn't even mention reporting, let alone claim that shareholders control company reporting. Shareholders are the people to whom reporting is given; they are not the people who perform the reporting.

Why would you think that is the assertion I'm possibly making? That isn't even the topic of the discussion.

​

BTW, need I repeat the question?

What six billionaires?

 

[gipper]

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Do you think they will drop the Chancellorsville story in 2 days?

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

Merely clicking on the first noted Google search results link I provided shows that various major media outlets carried the story over a period of at least two weeks. One can without even reading the content at the links see that on June 14th, CBS ran a story including the man's name and on July 2nd, the LA Times ran one that also included the man's name.

As far as I know, the DNC do not own any "elite" media outlets. Are you aware of any such media outlets to which the DNC holds title? If so, do tell, that is do tell, provided you don't, as you now twice in succession in your current discourse with me, fabricate the information you present.

Okay...whatever.

Regarding the MSM and DNC, some think the elite NYC/DC media control the D Party. It does appear this just might be the truth.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely? The MSM and the government are very much in bed together. They both want ever growing centralization...more control of the masses so the Oligarchy can do as they wish and of course get richer and more powerful.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely?

What six billionaires?

In 2011, the following was the state of control for about 90% of media.


The infographic below is now out of date, but it's one I came across that illustrates that the notion that six individuals, to say nothing of six liberals or, as you claimed, the DNC, do not control media.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

The difference betwee is that GE does not own NBC (or Comcast or any other media company) anymore. So that 6th company is now Comcast. And Time Warner doesn't own AOL, so Huffington Post, which like Breitbart News, the HuffPo was created by Andrew Breitbart [1], and isn't affiliated with Time Warner.

​

There are also major news organizations -- very reputable and influential, in fact -- not owned by what have been called the “big five" -- Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (owned by the decidedly not-liberal Rupert Murdoch, Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom.

• The New York Times is owned by the publicly-held New York Times Corporation.
• The Washington Post is owned by the publicly-held Washington Post Company.
• The Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times are both owned by the Tribune Company.
• Hearst Publications owns 12 newspapers including the San Francisco Chronicle, as well as magazines, television stations and cable and interactive media.

Then there is the matter of the ownership of the top five or six media companies, most of which are very widely-held. [2]

• Time Warner major shareholders
• Disney major shareholders
• News Corporation major shareholders
• Viacom major shareholders -- Viacom, as of early 2016 (I don't know what has changed), is unique among this group in that although it is a publicly traded company, the company's bylaws accord voting rights only to Class A shareholders. Summer Redstone controls 80% of the Class A Stock, which comprises 20% of the company's total market capitalization.
• CBS -- About 80% of CBS is held by institutional investors
  • Class A C5S1
  • Class A CBS.A
  • Class B CBS
• Bertelsmann -- Bertelsmann is unique among the "big six" in that it is controlled by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which is run by a few individuals.
  
  
  

The logical conclusion to draw from the information above is that despite the industry consolidation depicted in the graphic below, control of American media does not, as you claimed, reside in the hands of six billionaires.


This now, in the course of one conversation topic, thrice in succession have made utterly implausible and unfounded assertions that, were you to research the details of the matter -- it's obvious you don't "off the top of your head" know what you are talking about -- you, presumably, would not have made. I don't know how often you are so procrustean or what specific remarks of yours reflect that behavior, but I do know I'm beginning to recognize your ID and associate with it a recurring pattern of inanity. For now, I can only that you are not alone in doing so.

Note:

1. Andrew Breitbart, who died in 2012, said [Trump] wasn’t actually conservative. “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi,” Breitbart said during a 2011 appearance on Fox News. (Source)
   
2. Careful readers of the linked ownership/control content will observe that the Vanguard Group has a lot of positions in media corporations. The Vanguard Group is unique in that it is owned by its funds. The company’s different funds are then owned by the shareholders. Thus, the shareholders are the true owners of Vanguard. The company has no outside investors other than its shareholders. There is a good chance that readers here are shareholders in Vanguard Group.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

I didn't even mention reporting, let alone claim that shareholders control company reporting. Shareholders are the people to whom reporting is given; they are not the people who perform the reporting.

Why would you think that is the assertion I'm possibly making? That isn't even the topic of the discussion.

​

BTW, need I repeat the question?

What six billionaires?

I did state"if."

 

[usmbguest5318]

Merely clicking on the first noted Google search results link I provided shows that various major media outlets carried the story over a period of at least two weeks. One can without even reading the content at the links see that on June 14th, CBS ran a story including the man's name and on July 2nd, the LA Times ran one that also included the man's name.

As far as I know, the DNC do not own any "elite" media outlets. Are you aware of any such media outlets to which the DNC holds title? If so, do tell, that is do tell, provided you don't, as you now twice in succession in your current discourse with me, fabricate the information you present.

Okay...whatever.

Regarding the MSM and DNC, some think the elite NYC/DC media control the D Party. It does appear this just might be the truth.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely? The MSM and the government are very much in bed together. They both want ever growing centralization...more control of the masses so the Oligarchy can do as they wish and of course get richer and more powerful.

When six billionaires control most of the media, what do you think is likely?

What six billionaires?

In 2011, the following was the state of control for about 90% of media.


The infographic below is now out of date, but it's one I came across that illustrates that the notion that six individuals, to say nothing of six liberals or, as you claimed, the DNC, do not control media.

The elite .01% DNC media dropped that story after 2 days.

The difference betwee is that GE does not own NBC (or Comcast or any other media company) anymore. So that 6th company is now Comcast. And Time Warner doesn't own AOL, so Huffington Post, which like Breitbart News, the HuffPo was created by Andrew Breitbart [1], and isn't affiliated with Time Warner.

​

There are also major news organizations -- very reputable and influential, in fact -- not owned by what have been called the “big five" -- Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation (owned by the decidedly not-liberal Rupert Murdoch, Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom.

• The New York Times is owned by the publicly-held New York Times Corporation.
• The Washington Post is owned by the publicly-held Washington Post Company.
• The Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times are both owned by the Tribune Company.
• Hearst Publications owns 12 newspapers including the San Francisco Chronicle, as well as magazines, television stations and cable and interactive media.

Then there is the matter of the ownership of the top five or six media companies, most of which are very widely-held. [2]

• Time Warner major shareholders
• Disney major shareholders
• News Corporation major shareholders
• Viacom major shareholders -- Viacom, as of early 2016 (I don't know what has changed), is unique among this group in that although it is a publicly traded company, the company's bylaws accord voting rights only to Class A shareholders. Summer Redstone controls 80% of the Class A Stock, which comprises 20% of the company's total market capitalization.
• CBS -- About 80% of CBS is held by institutional investors
  • Class A C5S1
  • Class A CBS.A
  • Class B CBS
• Bertelsmann -- Bertelsmann is unique among the "big six" in that it is controlled by the Bertelsmann Foundation, which is run by a few individuals.
  
  
  

The logical conclusion to draw from the information above is that despite the industry consolidation depicted in the graphic below, control of American media does not, as you claimed, reside in the hands of six billionaires.


This now, in the course of one conversation topic, thrice in succession have made utterly implausible and unfounded assertions that, were you to research the details of the matter -- it's obvious you don't "off the top of your head" know what you are talking about -- you, presumably, would not have made. I don't know how often you are so procrustean or what specific remarks of yours reflect that behavior, but I do know I'm beginning to recognize your ID and associate with it a recurring pattern of inanity. For now, I can only that you are not alone in doing so.

Note:

1. Andrew Breitbart, who died in 2012, said [Trump] wasn’t actually conservative. “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi,” Breitbart said during a 2011 appearance on Fox News. (Source)
   
2. Careful readers of the linked ownership/control content will observe that the Vanguard Group has a lot of positions in media corporations. The Vanguard Group is unique in that it is owned by its funds. The company’s different funds are then owned by the shareholders. Thus, the shareholders are the true owners of Vanguard. The company has no outside investors other than its shareholders. There is a good chance that readers here are shareholders in Vanguard Group.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

If you are trying to claim that shareholders of the six largest media companies control what those companies report, you really need to think again.

I didn't even mention reporting, let alone claim that shareholders control company reporting. Shareholders are the people to whom reporting is given; they are not the people who perform the reporting.

Why would you think that is the assertion I'm possibly making? That isn't even the topic of the discussion.

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BTW, need I repeat the question?

What six billionaires?

I did state"if."

Okay.

Are you going to answer the question I posed to you?

What six billionaires [control most of the media]?