Maricopa County's Audit doesn't disappoint....

[Foreigner Looking In.]

Knew I'd be entertained by this circus...

View attachment 486110
Trump himself must not have been available.....

So?
People with BLM masks were doing the actual count in November.
Rotten to the core.

Republicans dominate the Maricopa County Board of Elections. They have said the election was fair. The Republican governor of Arizona said it was fair. You are just sore losers.

You do not lose when you are cheated.

Trump's AG says there was no cheating.

He didn't investigate. He didn't interview ONE witness.
He's swamp.

 

[colfax_m]

They aren't counting the ballots, moron

Of course they are. The fact that you don’t know this demonstrates your rank ignorance on the issue.

 

[colfax_m]

He didn't investigate. He didn't interview ONE witness.
He's swamp.

The AG doesn’t interview witnesses.

The FBI does.

They interviewed the poor sucker that James OKeefe got to lie about illegal mail in ballots.

 

[eddiew37]

Lying with open eyes

Elected Republicans are lying with open eyes. Their excuses are disgraceful. - “The GOP is increasingly defined not by its shared beliefs, but by its shared delusions…To be a loyal Republican, one must be either a sucker or a liar.” Michael Gerson​

“Lord, Lord, how this world is given to lying!”
— “Henry IV,” Part 1, Act 5

For the activist base of the Republican Party, affirming that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential contest has become a qualification for membership in good standing. For the party’s elected leaders, accepting the clear result of a fair election is to be a rogue Republican like the indomitable Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.) — a target for Trump’s anger, public censure and primary threats.
Nothing about this is normal. The GOP is increasingly defined not by its shared beliefs, but by its shared delusions. To be a loyal Republican, one must be either a sucker or a liar. And because this defining falsehood is so obviously and laughably false, we can safely assume that most Republican leaders who embrace it fall into the second category. Knowingly repeating a lie — an act of immorality — is now the evidence of Republican fidelity.


This kind of determined mendacity requires rolling out the big guns. Said the prophet Isaiah: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil.”
Moral clarity against lying is sometimes made harder by our loose application of the term. When public figures disagree with you in their analyses of tax policy, or welfare spending or Social Security reform, they’re generally not lying. They’re disagreeing. When it’s revealed that someone was previously wrong about an issue — even on a grave matter of national security — it doesn’t mean he or she was lying all along. It means that person was wrong.
“To preserve the meaning of words,” said Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.), “is the first responsibility of liberalism.” Precisely because principled disagreement is essential in a democracy, we can’t attribute every difference to deception. This form of false witness is a tool of polarization and a method of dehumanization.


It’s important to keep perspective about the stakes of any given lie. There is reason the English language has so many words to describe the shades of culpability in a deception. You can equivocate, or dissemble, or palter, or mislead, or prevaricate, or fib, or perjure. There are mortal lies and venial lies, cruel lies and merciful lies. Context matters.
Speaking of perjury, almost any GOP response to charges of deception will eventually include the words “Bill Clinton.” In a time of rampant whataboutism, Republicans often point out that Clinton was a spectacular liar defended by his party. What they fail to acknowledge is that many elected Democrats criticized his lying under oath, even as they opposed his impeachment. Clinton was not insisting his supporters share in his immorality to show their loyalty (though that might have had some appeal when it came to other human failures).
The context for Trump’s lies has been particularly damning. When Trump falsely asserted that Barack Obama was born in Africa and thus illegitimate as president, it was permission for racism. When he claimed he saw Muslims in New Jersey celebrating on Sept. 11, 2001, it was a vicious lie to feed a prejudice.


But the lie of a stolen election is the foundational falsehood of a political worldview. Believing it requires Trump’s followers to affirm the existence of a nationwide plot against him and his supporters — a plot led by ruthless Democrats and traitorous Republicans, and ignored or endorsed by useless courts and a complicit media. The claim’s plausibility is not the point. Does it really make sense that Attorney General William P. Barr, who found no evidence of election fraud that could have changed the result, was in on the plot? Were the conservative judges Trump appointed who dismissed his rubbish lawsuits really out to get him?
Such considerations don’t seem to matter. In the 1930s and ’40s, was it plausible that the democratic leaders of Weimar Germany had stabbed their own country in the back and betrayed its people? Or that an international conspiracy of powerful Jews was controlling world events?
Trump’s lie is not the moral equivalent of fascist propaganda. But it serves the same political function. A founding lie is intended to remove followers from the messy world of facts and evidence. It is designed to replace critical judgment with personal loyalty. It is supposed to encourage distrust of every source of social authority opposed to the leader’s shifting will.


The people who accepted this political mythology and stormed the Capitol were not lying about their views. They seemed quite sincere. And who knows what Trump really thinks? When a congenital liar surrounds himself with sycophantic liars, he can easily lose radio contact with reality.
No, it is the elected Republicans who are lying with open eyes, out of fear or cynicism, who have the most to atone for. With the health of U.S. democracy at stake, their excuses are disgraceful.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This isn't an election, moron. It's an audit. Different standards.

Apparently the standards for the audit are lower than that for the election.

Given the audit is less reliable, begs the question why they’re doing it at all.

Didn't the Dems try to block the audit and are now refusing to participate?

It's not like they are being thrown out and blocked from seeing the process....like November 2020.

 

[bripat9643]

Lying with open eyes

Elected Republicans are lying with open eyes. Their excuses are disgraceful. - “The GOP is increasingly defined not by its shared beliefs, but by its shared delusions…To be a loyal Republican, one must be either a sucker or a liar.” Michael Gerson​

“Lord, Lord, how this world is given to lying!”
— “Henry IV,” Part 1, Act 5

For the activist base of the Republican Party, affirming that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential contest has become a qualification for membership in good standing. For the party’s elected leaders, accepting the clear result of a fair election is to be a rogue Republican like the indomitable Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.) — a target for Trump’s anger, public censure and primary threats.
Nothing about this is normal. The GOP is increasingly defined not by its shared beliefs, but by its shared delusions. To be a loyal Republican, one must be either a sucker or a liar. And because this defining falsehood is so obviously and laughably false, we can safely assume that most Republican leaders who embrace it fall into the second category. Knowingly repeating a lie — an act of immorality — is now the evidence of Republican fidelity.


This kind of determined mendacity requires rolling out the big guns. Said the prophet Isaiah: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil.”
Moral clarity against lying is sometimes made harder by our loose application of the term. When public figures disagree with you in their analyses of tax policy, or welfare spending or Social Security reform, they’re generally not lying. They’re disagreeing. When it’s revealed that someone was previously wrong about an issue — even on a grave matter of national security — it doesn’t mean he or she was lying all along. It means that person was wrong.
“To preserve the meaning of words,” said Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.), “is the first responsibility of liberalism.” Precisely because principled disagreement is essential in a democracy, we can’t attribute every difference to deception. This form of false witness is a tool of polarization and a method of dehumanization.


It’s important to keep perspective about the stakes of any given lie. There is reason the English language has so many words to describe the shades of culpability in a deception. You can equivocate, or dissemble, or palter, or mislead, or prevaricate, or fib, or perjure. There are mortal lies and venial lies, cruel lies and merciful lies. Context matters.
Speaking of perjury, almost any GOP response to charges of deception will eventually include the words “Bill Clinton.” In a time of rampant whataboutism, Republicans often point out that Clinton was a spectacular liar defended by his party. What they fail to acknowledge is that many elected Democrats criticized his lying under oath, even as they opposed his impeachment. Clinton was not insisting his supporters share in his immorality to show their loyalty (though that might have had some appeal when it came to other human failures).
The context for Trump’s lies has been particularly damning. When Trump falsely asserted that Barack Obama was born in Africa and thus illegitimate as president, it was permission for racism. When he claimed he saw Muslims in New Jersey celebrating on Sept. 11, 2001, it was a vicious lie to feed a prejudice.


But the lie of a stolen election is the foundational falsehood of a political worldview. Believing it requires Trump’s followers to affirm the existence of a nationwide plot against him and his supporters — a plot led by ruthless Democrats and traitorous Republicans, and ignored or endorsed by useless courts and a complicit media. The claim’s plausibility is not the point. Does it really make sense that Attorney General William P. Barr, who found no evidence of election fraud that could have changed the result, was in on the plot? Were the conservative judges Trump appointed who dismissed his rubbish lawsuits really out to get him?
Such considerations don’t seem to matter. In the 1930s and ’40s, was it plausible that the democratic leaders of Weimar Germany had stabbed their own country in the back and betrayed its people? Or that an international conspiracy of powerful Jews was controlling world events?
Trump’s lie is not the moral equivalent of fascist propaganda. But it serves the same political function. A founding lie is intended to remove followers from the messy world of facts and evidence. It is designed to replace critical judgment with personal loyalty. It is supposed to encourage distrust of every source of social authority opposed to the leader’s shifting will.


The people who accepted this political mythology and stormed the Capitol were not lying about their views. They seemed quite sincere. And who knows what Trump really thinks? When a congenital liar surrounds himself with sycophantic liars, he can easily lose radio contact with reality.
No, it is the elected Republicans who are lying with open eyes, out of fear or cynicism, who have the most to atone for. With the health of U.S. democracy at stake, their excuses are disgraceful.

You just posted you delusions, moron.

 

[CowboyTed]

Knew I'd be entertained by this circus...

View attachment 486110
Trump himself must not have been available.....

2 cents,

Do us a a favour and not call this an "Audit"....

Sorry but I cringe a little when they call it that... IT is not an Audit...

 

[colfax_m]

This isn't an election, moron. It's an audit. Different standards.

Apparently the standards for the audit are lower than that for the election.

Given the audit is less reliable, begs the question why they’re doing it at all.

Didn't the Dems try to block the audit and are now refusing to participate?

It's not like they are being thrown out and blocked from seeing the process....like November 2020.

They refused to allow the press into the room and won’t let anyone photograph or take notes.

They refused to tell people their methods and procedures so even if you can watch, you don’t know what they’re doing or why.

I believe some people have been refused to be monitors after expressing their criticism of the process, but I could be wrong.

 

[CowboyTed]

You see anyone putting up massive sheets of cardboard to block the view?
Has there been a fake toilet overflow and everyone has to evacuate the building?
Have they had anyone removed from the reviewing process?

No, no, no... so what the fuck is your problem?

No problem here...I'm enjoying watching you guys spin out of control. Perhaps you should storm the capitol again.

No one is out of control but the Democrats because they can't stop the audit.

When nothing changes after this audit...who are you going to blame this time?

All I want is the fraud proven. If nothing happens because of it stick around for a while, it will.

And they're going to arrest JFK's "real" assassins any day now, right dumbfuck?

No, but pretty soon the fraud will be proven.

You know this farce will never be verified by any proper Judge...

Where is the due process, observers..... This is just theatre...

 

[struth]

Knew I'd be entertained by this circus...

View attachment 486110
Trump himself must not have been available.....

Not sure who this is, or why I should care. Are former lawmakers not allowed to get other jobs?

 

[eddiew37]

Lying with open eyes

Elected Republicans are lying with open eyes. Their excuses are disgraceful. - “The GOP is increasingly defined not by its shared beliefs, but by its shared delusions…To be a loyal Republican, one must be either a sucker or a liar.” Michael Gerson​

“Lord, Lord, how this world is given to lying!”
— “Henry IV,” Part 1, Act 5

For the activist base of the Republican Party, affirming that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential contest has become a qualification for membership in good standing. For the party’s elected leaders, accepting the clear result of a fair election is to be a rogue Republican like the indomitable Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyo.) — a target for Trump’s anger, public censure and primary threats.
Nothing about this is normal. The GOP is increasingly defined not by its shared beliefs, but by its shared delusions. To be a loyal Republican, one must be either a sucker or a liar. And because this defining falsehood is so obviously and laughably false, we can safely assume that most Republican leaders who embrace it fall into the second category. Knowingly repeating a lie — an act of immorality — is now the evidence of Republican fidelity.


This kind of determined mendacity requires rolling out the big guns. Said the prophet Isaiah: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil.”
Moral clarity against lying is sometimes made harder by our loose application of the term. When public figures disagree with you in their analyses of tax policy, or welfare spending or Social Security reform, they’re generally not lying. They’re disagreeing. When it’s revealed that someone was previously wrong about an issue — even on a grave matter of national security — it doesn’t mean he or she was lying all along. It means that person was wrong.
“To preserve the meaning of words,” said Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.), “is the first responsibility of liberalism.” Precisely because principled disagreement is essential in a democracy, we can’t attribute every difference to deception. This form of false witness is a tool of polarization and a method of dehumanization.


It’s important to keep perspective about the stakes of any given lie. There is reason the English language has so many words to describe the shades of culpability in a deception. You can equivocate, or dissemble, or palter, or mislead, or prevaricate, or fib, or perjure. There are mortal lies and venial lies, cruel lies and merciful lies. Context matters.
Speaking of perjury, almost any GOP response to charges of deception will eventually include the words “Bill Clinton.” In a time of rampant whataboutism, Republicans often point out that Clinton was a spectacular liar defended by his party. What they fail to acknowledge is that many elected Democrats criticized his lying under oath, even as they opposed his impeachment. Clinton was not insisting his supporters share in his immorality to show their loyalty (though that might have had some appeal when it came to other human failures).
The context for Trump’s lies has been particularly damning. When Trump falsely asserted that Barack Obama was born in Africa and thus illegitimate as president, it was permission for racism. When he claimed he saw Muslims in New Jersey celebrating on Sept. 11, 2001, it was a vicious lie to feed a prejudice.


But the lie of a stolen election is the foundational falsehood of a political worldview. Believing it requires Trump’s followers to affirm the existence of a nationwide plot against him and his supporters — a plot led by ruthless Democrats and traitorous Republicans, and ignored or endorsed by useless courts and a complicit media. The claim’s plausibility is not the point. Does it really make sense that Attorney General William P. Barr, who found no evidence of election fraud that could have changed the result, was in on the plot? Were the conservative judges Trump appointed who dismissed his rubbish lawsuits really out to get him?
Such considerations don’t seem to matter. In the 1930s and ’40s, was it plausible that the democratic leaders of Weimar Germany had stabbed their own country in the back and betrayed its people? Or that an international conspiracy of powerful Jews was controlling world events?
Trump’s lie is not the moral equivalent of fascist propaganda. But it serves the same political function. A founding lie is intended to remove followers from the messy world of facts and evidence. It is designed to replace critical judgment with personal loyalty. It is supposed to encourage distrust of every source of social authority opposed to the leader’s shifting will.


The people who accepted this political mythology and stormed the Capitol were not lying about their views. They seemed quite sincere. And who knows what Trump really thinks? When a congenital liar surrounds himself with sycophantic liars, he can easily lose radio contact with reality.
No, it is the elected Republicans who are lying with open eyes, out of fear or cynicism, who have the most to atone for. With the health of U.S. democracy at stake, their excuses are disgraceful.

You just posted you delusions, moron.

bri you're lying with open eyes Trump is scum and for you not to see that is a sin

 

[progressive hunter]

They aren't counting the ballots, moron

Of course they are. The fact that you don’t know this demonstrates your rank ignorance on the issue.

they are auditing the ballots,, counting is a side effect,, why you dont know this demonstrates your rank ignorance on the issue,,

 

[bripat9643]

Knew I'd be entertained by this circus...

View attachment 486110
Trump himself must not have been available.....

2 cents,

Do us a a favour and not call this an "Audit"....

Sorry but I cringe a little when they call it that... IT is not an Audit...

That's what they call it. Tough if you don't like it. One thing it is not is a simple count of the ballots.

 

[busybee01]

This isn't an election, moron. It's an audit. Different standards.

Apparently the standards for the audit are lower than that for the election.

Given the audit is less reliable, begs the question why they’re doing it at all.

Cheating rigging election stealing Dems telling others how to conduct an audit lol.

Naricopa County Republicans disagree with you.

Where is "Naricopa" county, dumbass?

Shut up dumbass. Clearly you cannot refute the facts.

 

[busybee01]

Knew I'd be entertained by this circus...

View attachment 486110
Trump himself must not have been available.....

So?
People with BLM masks were doing the actual count in November.
Rotten to the core.

Republicans dominate the Maricopa County Board of Elections. They have said the election was fair. The Republican governor of Arizona said it was fair. You are just sore losers.

You do not lose when you are cheated.

Trump's AG says there was no cheating.

He didn't investigate. He didn't interview ONE witness.
He's swamp.

He told every US Attorney to be on the lookout for election fraud. They saw no evidence of fraud. That includes 2 US ttorneys in Georgia.

That is your typical excuse. Barr claimed that Mueller's report exonerated Trump when it did not. Barr was a partisan AG who protected Trump. He was a part of the Trump swamp.

 

[busybee01]

This isn't an election, moron. It's an audit. Different standards.

Apparently the standards for the audit are lower than that for the election.

Given the audit is less reliable, begs the question why they’re doing it at all.

Didn't the Dems try to block the audit and are now refusing to participate?

It's not like they are being thrown out and blocked from seeing the process....like November 2020.

Republicans in Maricopa County stand by the election results and have refused to participate.

The only people who were thrown out were people who were acting out of the bounds of normal conduct. In Michigan, cvote counters tried to block out protestors not observers.

 

[Foreigner Looking In.]

Knew I'd be entertained by this circus...

View attachment 486110
Trump himself must not have been available.....

So?
People with BLM masks were doing the actual count in November.
Rotten to the core.

Republicans dominate the Maricopa County Board of Elections. They have said the election was fair. The Republican governor of Arizona said it was fair. You are just sore losers.

You do not lose when you are cheated.

Trump's AG says there was no cheating.

He didn't investigate. He didn't interview ONE witness.
He's swamp.

He told every US Attorney to be on the lookout for election fraud. They saw no evidence of fraud. That includes 2 US ttorneys in Georgia.

That is your typical excuse. Barr claimed that Mueller's report exonerated Trump when it did not. Barr was a partisan AG who protected Trump. He was a part of the Trump swamp.

How many witnesses were interviewed?

 

[Foreigner Looking In.]

This isn't an election, moron. It's an audit. Different standards.

Apparently the standards for the audit are lower than that for the election.

Given the audit is less reliable, begs the question why they’re doing it at all.

Didn't the Dems try to block the audit and are now refusing to participate?

It's not like they are being thrown out and blocked from seeing the process....like November 2020.

Republicans in Maricopa County stand by the election results and have refused to participate.

The only people who were thrown out were people who were acting out of the bounds of normal conduct. In Michigan, cvote counters tried to block out protestors not observers.

Show us ONE image of Republican observers standing by the table in November 2020.
One image.

 

[Foreigner Looking In.]

He didn't investigate. He didn't interview ONE witness.
He's swamp.

The AG doesn’t interview witnesses.

The FBI does.

They interviewed the poor sucker that James OKeefe got to lie about illegal mail in ballots.

They didn't interview him, they intimidated him and tried to coerce him into "unthinking" what he had seen.

 

[colfax_m]

Show us ONE image of Republican observers standing by the table in November 2020.
One image.

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