Make no mistake about it - the democrat party absolutely hates America.

[j-mac]

Since nobody seems to have any goals or benchmarks for this war who knows

Well, that is simply NOT true.

 

[dblack]

Shows how much you neo-leftists know. I consider myself an old school democrat. I abandoned the new establishment dumocraps in 2016 and broke free of the 2 party duopoly, and now consider myself an Independent.

This isn't some kind of secret. The neocon movement was started by disenchanted Democrats. At the risk of over-simplifying it, neocons are Democrats who like war and want more authoritarian government.

 

[Augustine_]

Well, that is simply NOT true.

Iran's military and leadership are gone. Also, Trump admitted to killing everybody he thought might be a decent replacement to lead the country. So what's the goal?

 

[rightwinger]

Since nobody seems to have any goals or benchmarks for this war who knows

Trumps plan is to bomb the crap out of them, declare victory and go home

Never works like that

 

[Augustine_]

Trumps plan is to bomb the crap out of them, declare victory and go home

Never works like that

He's declared victory like 3 or 4 times like an idiot. Now he says it will end when "I feel it in my bones." When a nepo baby who has never struggled for anything in his life and has never been told no is in charge, this is what happens.

 

[Dorian Mode]

This isn't some kind of secret. The neocon movement was started by disenchanted Democrats. At the risk of over-simplifying it, neocons are Democrats who like war and want more authoritarian government.

You just discover water is wet? The neo-cons were disgruntled democrat warmongers payed by the MIC that were upset with the old school democrats for not engaging in enough wars all over the world, so they left the old school democrats and infiltrated the Reagan administration. They carry with them massive lobby money and both sides loved them up until Trump's first term. Then they, with the other factions of the government, waged war on Trump for not embracing them like all other POTUSes have. I fear Trump had to let a few in to keep them off his back and avoid the shitstorm of the first term. Politics is a very dirty business and sometimes it is necessary to keep your enemies closer. Sucks, but I don't expect perfection in an imperfect world.

 

[rightwinger]

He's declared victory like 3 or 4 times like an idiot. Now he says it will end when "I feel it in my bones." When a nepo baby who has never struggled for anything in his life and has never been told no is in charge, this is what happens.

Has he felt it in his bones to deploy Marines yet?

 

[d0gbreath]

Well, that sounds like another dodge....See, instead of discussing anything, you need to come at me personally. Nobody said you needed a "wall of text", but you provide absolutely zero! So, again, wtf are you even here for?

To have friendly discussions with nice people like you.

 

[Stryder50]

Proving once again, what a fool you are.

Why are you here? We don’t need another state loving partisan sycophant. Leave!

Proving once again what a shill and traitor you are.
We have too many Leftist, anti-social, anti-American, neo-nazi, suppressors of Freedom and Liberty, tyranny loving partisan sycophants on this forum.
Stay ~ You provide constant reminder of what Evil and Satanic elements there are in this world.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Has he felt it in his bones to deploy Marines yet?

He would rather deploy anti-american neo-leftists from this country, but he knows they will all defect and then help Iran directly attack the homeland. I doubt he sends the Marines, but he might send the specialty forces. They desperately want to see some action because they are patriots and love this country and will defend it with their lives if necessary, unlike the neo-leftists here who are probably already helping Iranian sleeper cells here to activate. How many are you helping? Be honest!

 

[j-mac]

Iran's military and leadership are gone. Also, Trump admitted to killing everybody he thought might be a decent replacement to lead the country. So what's the goal?

The goals as I understand them is two fold....Prevent Iran from obtaining a nuke, and the ability to threaten their region with terrorism, and opening a chance that the people can rise up and take their country back from the theocracy....

So now, you tell me. What is your goal?

 

[dblack]

You just discover water is wet?

Nope. But you're presenting it as though it's a revelation. Neocons grew out of Dems who wanted more authoritarian government and more foreign military involvement. Even wikipedia gets it right.

The neo-cons were disgruntled democrat warmongers payed by the MIC

MIC?

that were upset with the old school democrats for not engaging in enough wars all over the world, so they left the old school democrats and infiltrated the Reagan administration. They carry with them massive lobby money and both sides loved them up until Trump's first term. Then they, with the other factions of the government, waged war on Trump for not embracing them like all other POTUSes have.

Well, that didn't last, did it? He's all in now.

It sounds like you're denying that you're a neocon, and I'm wondering why. Are you in favor of the war on Iraq? Do you want government taking an active role as "world police"? Does free trade matter? Or do you prefer government manipulating markets with tariffs, tax games and direct threats from the President?

 

[j-mac]

To have friendly discussions with nice people like you.

As nice as that is for you to say, I have known you long enough to know you are saying that tongue in cheek. But, regardless, a discussion requires two to participate, that would involve you. So, come on man, out with it....

 

[Stryder50]

How long will US troops be needed to keep the Straits of Hormuz open?

Until the Islamic theocracy regime is gone and replaced with a more tolerant, secular, Pro-West regime has replaced it, and is ruling the country.
That would be my guess.

Note, I understand and appreciate that one should not telegraph too much on intentions and plans other the general nature of what the enemy needs to do in order to surrender themselves.

 

[debbiedowner]

Before I get started, I am by no means putting the only real elected Democrat, Senator John Fetterman in this category. Let's put it this way, if Democrat John Fetterman was to run against any of the following RINO scum: Susan Collins, John Cornan, Lisa Murkowski, you know that type of fake Republican who is even of less value than a single sheet of single ply used toiled paper, I would easily vote for Fetterman over them. With Fetterman, it is too bad that other real Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema don't run for office again and try to bring at least some sense of sanity back to the Democrat Party. In my opinion, it is only a matter of time before Fetterman becomes and Independent.

Gone are the day of the John F. Kennedy Democrat - geez, JFK, that was like forever before I was born, but even I know if JFK was to be the same age now as he was then and running for office, the Democrats and their whores in the fake news media would be calling him a nazi and a fascist, he would have to run as a Republican. Before I state what I am going to state, I am referring to ELECTED Democrats, not all people registered as Democrats, again just ELECTED Democrats. These elected Democrats absolutely hate America.

Make no mistake about it, outside of Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.), who told the Jewish Insider that the sponsors of the War Powers Resolution “should just rename it the Ayatollah Protection Act because that’s what it does.”, the only other Dems to be against this were Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D) and John Fetterman. The rest of the elected Democrats absolutely hate America and they are on the side of Iran, not America. Where it is real obvious that the Democrat Party truly hates America is that in a time of high national security threat, the Democrats would much rather see American citizens become the victims of terrorism in this country than to fund DHS - they same terrorists the Democrats invited to America with open borders under the village idiot, Joe Biden. The Democrats want you to suffer at airports with a now suggested "get to the airport 4 hours early to get through security". The Democrats want America to get hit by cyber attacks, because our cyber security is in jeopardy because of the hate America party. So, we have seen some unfortunate terrorist attacks in this country these past couple of days, well you can thank an elected Democrat for that, the Democrat Party is 100% to blame.

America has had many serious enemies throughout its history, however, none of to those past enemies, or current enemies such as China, radical islam, Russia come even remotely close to being a greater threat to America than today's Democrat Party. Seriously, radical islam, Xi Jinping and other enemies have to be laughing and saying that they don't even need to attack America, the Democrat Party is doing all of our work for us.

I suggest reading this link about how the Democrat Party hates America.

Mark Levin’s The Democrat Party Hates America

Once again, Mark Levin has done a great service to the Republic by writing a fully documented, highly pointed book on a topic of vital national interest. Published today by the Threshold Editions imprint of Simon & Schuster, The Democrat Party Ha...

www.americanthinker.com

You can pretty much say the same for maga republicans since they're putting us down a shit hole it will take many years to get out of.

 

[Augustine_]

Has he felt it in his bones to deploy Marines yet?

There's only one way he can feel a bone anymore but is there anybody still left who would let their children near him?

 

[Dorian Mode]

The goals as I understand them is two fold....Prevent Iran from obtaining a nuke, and the ability to threaten their region with terrorism, and opening a chance that the people can rise up and take their country back from the theocracy....

So now, you tell me. What is your goal?

My guess is Allahu Akbar! Engage in as much domestic terrorism as possible. Kill Americans. Destroy the country.

 

[d0gbreath]

As nice as that is for you to say, I have known you long enough to know you are saying that tongue in cheek. But, regardless, a discussion requires two to participate, that would involve you. So, come on man, out with it....

I'll start slowly: Iran conflict bad.

 

[debbiedowner]

What you are seeing is Trump Making America Great Again, and it bothers you leftists so much that he is getting things done that no dumocrap could get done, going back many decades. It is pure jealousy. I'll admit I enthusiastically voted for Obama in 2008 because Bush really fucked up the country and Obama seemed to really care about Making America Great Again. Then he quickly demonstrated that he too was part of the same establishment that ran GW Bush, and the country declined even further. Trump is actually Making America Great Again this time. Don't like it? Go to Somalia and enjoy that socialist paradise. But be aware that they need photo ID to enter the country and they do enforce their border.

List the ways Trump is making the U.S. great again.

 

[debbiedowner]

I don't want to send soldiers to die for nothing again and have you absolve yourself of the glee you took in their deaths by calling it a "stupid" war 10 years from now like you did with Iraq and Afghanistan

It probably is going to happen whether you or I like it or not. The maga's will love it but they certainly didn't when a dem President sent troops to die.