Listen up GOP leadership: Why your base is terrified of immigration.

[Antares]

Interesting that we are finally getting replies from the right

Leave the situation as it is. Hunt them down and deport them
Typical of Conservatives. You don't realize the game has changed until it is to late

Republucans got 30% of the Hispanic vote in the last election. Hispanics are very religious with strong family values. They are natural born conservatives. Yet Republicans only draw 30%

Lose more of the Hispanic vote and you lose Florida for good. Any more and you risk losing Texas. If you ever lose Texas, that is the end of your party.

But go ahead.....continue blocking any immigration reform. You only hurt yourself

Open the borders, allow ANYONE and EVERYONE who wants to come in come in.....very intelligent of you.

What the fuck do I care?

What are you going to do about it Republicans? The clock is ticking and you are losing the Hispanic vote. What are you going to do to stop the bleeding?

The future of your party depends on it

What a pleasant little boy you are

Not real bright....but oh so pleasant

 

[The T]

Interesting that we are finally getting replies from the right

Leave the situation as it is. Hunt them down and deport them
Typical of Conservatives. You don't realize the game has changed until it is to late

Republucans got 30% of the Hispanic vote in the last election. Hispanics are very religious with strong family values. They are natural born conservatives. Yet Republicans only draw 30%

Lose more of the Hispanic vote and you lose Florida for good. Any more and you risk losing Texas. If you ever lose Texas, that is the end of your party.

But go ahead.....continue blocking any immigration reform. You only hurt yourself

Open the borders, allow ANYONE and EVERYONE who wants to come in come in.....very intelligent of you.

What the fuck do I care?

What are you going to do about it Republicans? The clock is ticking and you are losing the Hispanic vote. What are you going to do to stop the bleeding?

The future of your party depends on it

Spoken like a TRUE Racist HACK that you are.

 

[1776]

Liberals always believe criminals, bad people, etc won't bother them until it happens then they become conservatives by experience.

Blacks and whites all gung-ho for "giving back" the western USA to Mexico via illegal immigration don't realize it will become a cesspool like Mexico and they will be the first ones on the target list for $$$ and more.

 

[rightwinger]

White trash like you believe you will benefit from 15M-30M more Hispanics here in line for welfare, obamacare, education, jobs, etc.

They'll come after you too "gringo."

Open the borders, allow ANYONE and EVERYONE who wants to come in come in.....very intelligent of you.

What the fuck do I care?

What are you going to do about it Republicans? The clock is ticking and you are losing the Hispanic vote. What are you going to do to stop the bleeding?

The future of your party depends on it

What the fuck do I care?

Keep that attitude Republicans. Hispanics will not vote for you. You have 30% of the Hispanic vote now and will be lucky if you have 20% a decade from now. When that happens, you have lost Florida and Texas and will never elect another President

End of the Republican party as we know it

 

[rightwinger]

Open the borders, allow ANYONE and EVERYONE who wants to come in come in.....very intelligent of you.

What the fuck do I care?

What are you going to do about it Republicans? The clock is ticking and you are losing the Hispanic vote. What are you going to do to stop the bleeding?

The future of your party depends on it

Spoken like a TRUE Racist HACK that you are.

Refute what I have said. How does your party survive without increasing its polling with Hispanics?

 

[TemplarKormac]

I thought it was awfully odd that Republicans would give Mitt Romney a free pass on wanting to cut education and bring in immigrants with degrees. Turns out I was right. The GOP base was voting anti Obama even though Romney's policies would hurt them more than anyone.

So why is that?

We all know how USMB Republicans have gone on about how business has been moving from Blue States to Red States. We know that those with a technical education soon followed. No where did the Republican leadership promise to help their base get those types of jobs. Just some vague "we support educational choice". We know there simply isn't enough highly trained people to fill all the technical jobs available in both Blue States and Red States.

We know the Republican base's position on education. You could never get Democrats or Independents to sit in a room and hear their leadership mock education and they then cheer. That will never happen.

The GOP base has finally put two and two together. Business wants the tax breaks, the give a ways, the relaxed rules on environmental and safety standards that are available in Red States. But they also need skilled workers. And the cheapest way is the import ones that are already qualified.

And when you import workers with degrees, everyone else soon follows. If I was an engineer from Mexico, I would be very suspicious of hiring a right winger to build my house.

Clearly, the GOP base feels with an influx of educated immigrants, they would be further marginalized.

We're afraid of immigration? How is that possible? Hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants cross our borders legally. Not a peep. Why are you leftists afraid to enforce the law on those who don't? Hmm? "Anti-immigrant" is a misnomer. That would imply we were rank xenophobes. We are pro immigrant, anti illegal entry.

Very interesting...

So what is the plan of Republicans? The future of your party depends on it

Enforce the law. Give legal immigrants a fair shot. Don't look them over for people who come through illegally. Don't reward people for breaking the law. There should be consequences.

Too bad you think the consequences for illegal immigration is "anti-immigrant."

 

[Clementine]

wow, that is some hate for his fellow country men and women

I can feel it through my computer

Show's how much he cares about you citizens who were born here and those immigrants WHO do the right thing and come to our country LEGALLY...You get shit on for showing you care about, the RULES of our laws

Republicans have never feared immigration. Legal immigration, that is.

The Democrats are winning over some of the illegals the same way they won over the idle. They simply promise to give them free stuff and don't expect anyone to actually earn anything.

Liberals like to pretend that there is no difference between legal and illegal immigration. They assume all Hispanics support illegals coming in and getting welfare, just like they assume that all blacks want nanny government and all Republicans are white wealthy racists.

They make shit up, incorrectly label people and then show their racism by assuming how people think based on the color of their skin. If anyone has the nerve to think outside of their 'assigned group', the left viciously attacks them and infers that there is something terribly wrong with anyone who doesn't think the way they think they should.

Hispanics against illegal immigration, blacks against socialist policies and white Republicans who don't have a racist bone in their body are things that liberals cannot fathom. They are so closed-minded from listening to all the phony rhetoric.

 

[Steinlight]

I thought it was awfully odd that Republicans would give Mitt Romney a free pass on wanting to cut education and bring in immigrants with degrees. Turns out I was right. The GOP base was voting anti Obama even though Romney's policies would hurt them more than anyone.

So why is that?

We all know how USMB Republicans have gone on about how business has been moving from Blue States to Red States. We know that those with a technical education soon followed. No where did the Republican leadership promise to help their base get those types of jobs. Just some vague "we support educational choice". We know there simply isn't enough highly trained people to fill all the technical jobs available in both Blue States and Red States.

We know the Republican base's position on education. You could never get Democrats or Independents to sit in a room and hear their leadership mock education and they then cheer. That will never happen.

The GOP base has finally put two and two together. Business wants the tax breaks, the give a ways, the relaxed rules on environmental and safety standards that are available in Red States. But they also need skilled workers. And the cheapest way is the import ones that are already qualified.

And when you import workers with degrees, everyone else soon follows. If I was an engineer from Mexico, I would be very suspicious of hiring a right winger to build my house.

Clearly, the GOP base feels with an influx of educated immigrants, they would be further marginalized.

Last I checked, the GOP leadership is putting together what it calls a "piece meal" plan. This involves border security first, than Amnesty which includes a path to citizenship for the undocumented who abide by the law(pay back taxes, fines, pass criminal background checks and such) by first giving them residency and the ability for apply for citizenship down the road.

Boehner said:

"There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws — that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law,” the document reads. “Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits). Criminal aliens, gang members, and sex offenders and those who do not meet the above requirements will not be eligible for this program.”

What problem do you have with this? You do realize minus citizenship instead of residency for the undocumented, the GOP and Democrats have the same identical plan?

So if you have a problem with the GOP leadership , you have a problem with the Democrat leadership as well?

What is your proposal? Open borders, citizenship without question? Who is the extremist here?

 

[Antares]

What the fuck do I care?

What are you going to do about it Republicans? The clock is ticking and you are losing the Hispanic vote. What are you going to do to stop the bleeding?

The future of your party depends on it

Spoken like a TRUE Racist HACK that you are.

Refute what I have said. How does your party survive without increasing its polling with Hispanics?

Refute mere speculations?

You aren't real bright are you?

 

[rightwinger]

We're afraid of immigration? How is that possible? Hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants cross our borders legally. Not a peep. Why are you leftists afraid to enforce the law on those who don't? Hmm? "Anti-immigrant" is a misnomer. That would imply we were rank xenophobes. We are pro immigrant, anti illegal entry.

Very interesting...

So what is the plan of Republicans? The future of your party depends on it

Enforce the law. Give legal immigrants a fair shot. Don't look them over for people who come through illegally. Don't reward people for breaking the law. There should be consequences.

Too bad you think the consequences for illegal immigration is "anti-immigrant."

The current immigration bill does just that. Work visa and you go to the end of the line on citizenship

Problem is...Republucans are blocking it

You got 30% of the Hispanic vote in the last election. If it goes down to 20% you lose Florida and Texas and any chance of getting the White House again

What is your plan Republicans? you can do better than that

 

[rightwinger]

I thought it was awfully odd that Republicans would give Mitt Romney a free pass on wanting to cut education and bring in immigrants with degrees. Turns out I was right. The GOP base was voting anti Obama even though Romney's policies would hurt them more than anyone.

So why is that?

We all know how USMB Republicans have gone on about how business has been moving from Blue States to Red States. We know that those with a technical education soon followed. No where did the Republican leadership promise to help their base get those types of jobs. Just some vague "we support educational choice". We know there simply isn't enough highly trained people to fill all the technical jobs available in both Blue States and Red States.

We know the Republican base's position on education. You could never get Democrats or Independents to sit in a room and hear their leadership mock education and they then cheer. That will never happen.

The GOP base has finally put two and two together. Business wants the tax breaks, the give a ways, the relaxed rules on environmental and safety standards that are available in Red States. But they also need skilled workers. And the cheapest way is the import ones that are already qualified.

And when you import workers with degrees, everyone else soon follows. If I was an engineer from Mexico, I would be very suspicious of hiring a right winger to build my house.

Clearly, the GOP base feels with an influx of educated immigrants, they would be further marginalized.

Last I checked, the GOP leadership is putting together what it calls a "piece meal" plan. This involves border security first, than Amnesty which includes a path to citizenship for the undocumented who abide by the law(pay back taxes, fines, pass criminal background checks and such) by first giving them residency and the ability for apply for citizenship down the road.

Boehner said:

"There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws — that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law,” the document reads. “Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits). Criminal aliens, gang members, and sex offenders and those who do not meet the above requirements will not be eligible for this program.”

What problem do you have with this? You do realize minus citizenship instead of residency for the undocumented, the GOP and Democrats have the same identical plan?

So if you have a problem with the GOP leadership , you have a problem with the Democrat leadership as well?

What is your proposal? Open borders, citizenship without question? Who is the extremist here?

Piece meal plan?

Spend years playing with the border and never actually get it secured. Meanwhile, you hold up immigration reform indefinitely

30% Republicans...that is what you got in the last election

Unless you do something positive....you lose Florida and then Texas

 

[Steinlight]

I thought it was awfully odd that Republicans would give Mitt Romney a free pass on wanting to cut education and bring in immigrants with degrees. Turns out I was right. The GOP base was voting anti Obama even though Romney's policies would hurt them more than anyone.

So why is that?

We all know how USMB Republicans have gone on about how business has been moving from Blue States to Red States. We know that those with a technical education soon followed. No where did the Republican leadership promise to help their base get those types of jobs. Just some vague "we support educational choice". We know there simply isn't enough highly trained people to fill all the technical jobs available in both Blue States and Red States.

We know the Republican base's position on education. You could never get Democrats or Independents to sit in a room and hear their leadership mock education and they then cheer. That will never happen.

The GOP base has finally put two and two together. Business wants the tax breaks, the give a ways, the relaxed rules on environmental and safety standards that are available in Red States. But they also need skilled workers. And the cheapest way is the import ones that are already qualified.

And when you import workers with degrees, everyone else soon follows. If I was an engineer from Mexico, I would be very suspicious of hiring a right winger to build my house.

Clearly, the GOP base feels with an influx of educated immigrants, they would be further marginalized.

Last I checked, the GOP leadership is putting together what it calls a "piece meal" plan. This involves border security first, than Amnesty which includes a path to citizenship for the undocumented who abide by the law(pay back taxes, fines, pass criminal background checks and such) by first giving them residency and the ability for apply for citizenship down the road.

Boehner said:

"There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws — that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law,” the document reads. “Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits). Criminal aliens, gang members, and sex offenders and those who do not meet the above requirements will not be eligible for this program.”

What problem do you have with this? You do realize minus citizenship instead of residency for the undocumented, the GOP and Democrats have the same identical plan?

So if you have a problem with the GOP leadership , you have a problem with the Democrat leadership as well?

What is your proposal? Open borders, citizenship without question? Who is the extremist here?

Piece meal plan?

Spend years playing with the border and never actually get it secured. Meanwhile, you hold up immigration reform indefinitely

30% Republicans...that is what you got in the last election

Unless you do something positive....you lose Florida and then Texas

My mistake, the GOP plan says nothing about security "first", I misspoke. Rather the border fence and enhance security as part of the path to formal residency and eventual citizenship.

I am not a Republican, or a Democrat. However, it is a shame that you feel this major legal, social, economic, and national security issue is merely a way to pander for votes, as oppose to getting anything done in the long term.

If Obama is interested in passing meaningful reform to correct this quagmire of a system(for immigrants, legal and illegal, their families and the American taxpayer alike), and enhancing our national security, he will work with House Republicans on this plan, as it includes many of the principles he has supported in the past.

As for the rest of what you say, about Republicans stalling for 30 years, you are just engaging in histrionics.

 

[ScienceRocks]

90% of the human population is non-white

I understand why whites fear as we know that our rights won't be respected. One must fight for ones rights and within our case we are justified in saying no.

The problem is the voting power of the non-white population is making it ever harder for us to do so....

 

[Meister]

Last I checked, the GOP leadership is putting together what it calls a "piece meal" plan. This involves border security first, than Amnesty which includes a path to citizenship for the undocumented who abide by the law(pay back taxes, fines, pass criminal background checks and such) by first giving them residency and the ability for apply for citizenship down the road.

Boehner said:

"There will be no special path to citizenship for individuals who broke our nation’s immigration laws — that would be unfair to those immigrants who have played by the rules and harmful to promoting the rule of law,” the document reads. “Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits). Criminal aliens, gang members, and sex offenders and those who do not meet the above requirements will not be eligible for this program.”

What problem do you have with this? You do realize minus citizenship instead of residency for the undocumented, the GOP and Democrats have the same identical plan?

So if you have a problem with the GOP leadership , you have a problem with the Democrat leadership as well?

What is your proposal? Open borders, citizenship without question? Who is the extremist here?

Piece meal plan?

Spend years playing with the border and never actually get it secured. Meanwhile, you hold up immigration reform indefinitely

30% Republicans...that is what you got in the last election

Unless you do something positive....you lose Florida and then Texas

My mistake, the GOP plan says nothing about security "first", I misspoke. Rather the border fence and enhance security as part of the path to formal residency and eventual citizenship.

I am not a Republican, or a Democrat. However, it is a shame that you feel this major legal, social, economic, and national security issue is merely a way to pander for votes, as oppose to getting anything done in the long term.

If Obama is interested in passing meaningful reform to correct this quagmire of a system(for immigrants, legal and illegal, their families and the American taxpayer alike), and enhancing our national security, he will work with House Republicans on this plan, as it includes many of the principles he has supported in the past.

As for the rest of what you say, about Republicans stalling for 30 years, you are just engaging in histrionics.

The way Obama wants to do it was tried in 1986 and we still have an open boarder.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/immig...s-shit-might-as-well-eliminate-the-party.html

Another thread on it.

But no one is saying why the GOP leadership is trying to engage in something it's base clearly doesn't want? Because the leadership is driven by big business and big business wants immigrants with degrees. Just like I said.

GOP leadership is also driven by facts:

The government shutdown hurt republicans.

The GOP is correctly perceived by a majority of Americans as do-nothing partisan obstructionists.

Republicans need training in how to communicate with women.

And the Hispanic vote has all but slipped away for good.

 

[rdean]

Liberals always believe criminals, bad people, etc won't bother them until it happens then they become conservatives by experience.

Blacks and whites all gung-ho for "giving back" the western USA to Mexico via illegal immigration don't realize it will become a cesspool like Mexico and they will be the first ones on the target list for $$$ and more.

Conservatives believe EVERYBODY is going to hurt them. That's why their party is 90% white. And who screws them over the worst? Their own leaders.

 

[rdean]

Republicans want to spend trillions on things they believe will keep them safe. More guards. More bombs. More guns.

But the things that really keep them safe are education, jobs, healthcare and American supporting American. They think education is for snobs, too lazy to work the hard jobs, don't want healthcare and think Americans helping Americans is "socialism".

This screaming about "oh we just want it done legally" is as hollow as their cries for "voter ID". It only started with Voter ID, then went on to all kinds of Voter Suppression. It doesn't end well when you are "fear" driven.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Republicans are in deep trouble on immigration. As usual, they think that by blocking legislation, the issue will go away

What happens if the Republicans lose more of the Hispanic vote? They were at 30% the last election. If their position with the Hispanic vote erodes further, they lose Florida as a swing state. This will doom any chance of a Republican being President

35% of Texas is Hispanic with 12% black. Add an influx of white liberals from other states and Texas is up for grabs in the next ten years

Lose Florida and Texas and the Republican Party becomes a minor party

Waa waa waa. At least if the GOP dies, it'll be with dignity. The Dems, however, will be busy with their lips planted on brown butts.

This current GOP is dying from shame. And they die alone.

But it will bounce back. They GOP will be a great party once again. After the Teanut Baggers and the racists are dead and gone. They will rise again.

when racist like you are dead and gone the Democrats might look good again......

 

[Harry Dresden]

I thought it was awfully odd that Republicans would give Mitt Romney a free pass on wanting to cut education and bring in immigrants with degrees. Turns out I was right. The GOP base was voting anti Obama even though Romney's policies would hurt them more than anyone.

So why is that?

We all know how USMB Republicans have gone on about how business has been moving from Blue States to Red States. We know that those with a technical education soon followed. No where did the Republican leadership promise to help their base get those types of jobs. Just some vague "we support educational choice". We know there simply isn't enough highly trained people to fill all the technical jobs available in both Blue States and Red States.

We know the Republican base's position on education. You could never get Democrats or Independents to sit in a room and hear their leadership mock education and they then cheer. That will never happen.

The GOP base has finally put two and two together. Business wants the tax breaks, the give a ways, the relaxed rules on environmental and safety standards that are available in Red States. But they also need skilled workers. And the cheapest way is the import ones that are already qualified.

And when you import workers with degrees, everyone else soon follows. If I was an engineer from Mexico, I would be very suspicious of hiring a right winger to build my house.

Clearly, the GOP base feels with an influx of educated immigrants, they would be further marginalized.

If I was an engineer from Mexico, I would be very suspicious of hiring a right winger to build my house.


a Mexican would be suspicious of a left winger too....but i bet you wouldn't be....

In the Deep South and other Red States, I suspect it's pretty easy to decide right from left.

who is talking about the South?.....im talking right here in S.Cal......

 

[Harry Dresden]

Can you show us even one word of his writing here that is hateful?

Seems that just the word "rdean" is "hateful".

You are hate filled....you are ALSO the same it that tried to pass on the lie that Walker cut education when he actually increased education spending....you don't have any credibility kid.

what poster here mentions skin color more than Dean?....not even the right wing racist here like Shootspeadoes or Steve McGarrett can top Dean...