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Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
How about this...President Lincoln was a man, all men are flawed. You especially.. President Lincoln tried to be a good man by having all men be equal, freeing them from the tyranny of the Southern White Democrats. you on the other hand, want to destroy what President Lincoln tried to do..
I agree with you Lincoln was right to bring down the southern rebellion and the traitorous south. The slave power needed to be wiped out from the face of the earth.

He jailed journalists for exercising their First Amendment rights.

I never want to hear you moan about "...but muh furst amendmints" any more.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.

Are you fucking serious?
Many right-wing nutters argue Lincoln was a villain. I think Lincoln was a hero.

Lincoln was the original Ditto Head, that's for sure. Similar to modern conservatives like Jesse Helms ,Strom Thurmond and Ronald Reagan, he was against Slavery in all its forms.
Lincoln like storm Thurmond and Jesse helms.. That has to the most ludicrous thing I have ever read.
Notice how he doesnt mention Kleagle Robert Byrd, the guy who organized and recruited more Klansmen? Why did you leave him out? You know the guy that the brown turd Oblummer had such wonderful words about, in his eulogy to Byrd...
 
Hero...Lincoln knew a divided US would invite an invasion by Britain and/or France.


You don't save a nation by killing almost a million people.

The fucker started a shooting war by breaking the truce at Ft Sumter and many Americans died in his dirty war.
I guess you haven't read any biographies of Lincoln; he felt the survival of the nation was worth the sacrifice and he was right.
He also felt the survival of the nation depended on getting rid of the negro presence in the US. He was right...
 
Hero...Lincoln knew a divided US would invite an invasion by Britain and/or France.


You don't save a nation by killing almost a million people.

The fucker started a shooting war by breaking the truce at Ft Sumter and many Americans died in his dirty war.
Are you saying that the North fired upon itself to start the civil war? What school did you go to again?


The battle of Fort Sumter is generally considered to be the event responsible for the start of the US Civil War. The South Carolina Army fired on Fort Sumter because the state decided to separate itself from the United States, and the US army was stationed at the fort.
Why Did South Carolina Fire On Fort Sumter? - WorldAtlas

www.worldatlas.com/articles/why-did-south-carolina-fire-on-fort-sumter.html
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.

Are you fucking serious?
Many right-wing nutters argue Lincoln was a villain. I think Lincoln was a hero.

Lincoln was the original Ditto Head, that's for sure. Similar to modern conservatives like Jesse Helms ,Strom Thurmond and Ronald Reagan, he was against Slavery in all its forms.
Lincoln like storm Thurmond and Jesse helms.. That has to the most ludicrous thing I have ever read.


Both Sen. Thurmond and Sen. Helms were against Slavery, solid abolitionists. Both were decorated WW2 veterans as well, Thurmond fought in the Normandy Invasion to expel the national socialists
Well I hope they were against slavery considering the civil war was over 40 years before Thurmond was born.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
How about this...President Lincoln was a man, all men are flawed. You especially.. President Lincoln tried to be a good man by having all men be equal, freeing them from the tyranny of the Southern White Democrats. you on the other hand, want to destroy what President Lincoln tried to do..
I agree with you Lincoln was right to bring down the southern rebellion and the traitorous south. The slave power needed to be wiped out from the face of the earth.

He jailed journalists for exercising their First Amendment rights.

I never want to hear you moan about "...but muh furst amendmints" any more.
When the journalists back then acted like the Lame Stream Media of today and trying to usurp the war in the favor of the Southern White Democrats, they were jailed as seditionist as they should of been..
 
Many right-wing nutters argue Lincoln was a villain. I think Lincoln was a hero.
You said that you wanted to have a debate, and then start off by calling people names. ... :cool:
A poster asked if I was serious about a debate whether Lincoln was a hero or villain. I called no one in particular a name. I made a generalization. I apologize if it upset you.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.

Are you fucking serious?
Many right-wing nutters argue Lincoln was a villain. I think Lincoln was a hero.

Lincoln was the original Ditto Head, that's for sure. Similar to modern conservatives like Jesse Helms ,Strom Thurmond and Ronald Reagan, he was against Slavery in all its forms.
Lincoln like storm Thurmond and Jesse helms.. That has to the most ludicrous thing I have ever read.


Both Sen. Thurmond and Sen. Helms were against Slavery, solid abolitionists. Both were decorated WW2 veterans as well, Thurmond fought in the Normandy Invasion to expel the national socialists
Well I hope they were against slavery considering the civil war was over 40 years before Thurmond was born.
The war against slavery has been well over 100 years but there are a few who post here think it was just yesterday and still want their 40 acres and a mule...
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
From Amazon's description...
Standing in his way, however, was the South, with its independent states, its resistance to the national government, and its reliance on unfettered free trade
Including slavery.

Fuck the South.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
How about this...President Lincoln was a man, all men are flawed. You especially.. President Lincoln tried to be a good man by having all men be equal, freeing them from the tyranny of the Southern White Democrats. you on the other hand, want to destroy what President Lincoln tried to do..
I agree with you Lincoln was right to bring down the southern rebellion and the traitorous south. The slave power needed to be wiped out from the face of the earth.

Lincoln wanted to send all the blacks to Panama, he was right of course once they got their free Obama phones nothing has been the same again.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
He tore the country apart, the north and south were and still are 2 COMPLETELY different places and we will NEVER be united.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
He tore the country apart, the north and south were and still are 2 COMPLETELY different places and we will NEVER be united.
That is the Democrat Party......Never united, always divided....
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
He tore the country apart, the north and south were and still are 2 COMPLETELY different places and we will NEVER be united.
That is the Democrat Party......Never united, always divided....
Nope, that's just the way things are. I am no democrat, never have been, never will be. It's just the facts, you can't make something wholly united that was never united to begin with. EACH STATE voluntarily joined the union and had every right to leave the union.
 
Lincoln was first and foremost a politician. His goal was to preserve the union. He was a pragmatist not an abolitionist. Example: the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the Confederacy. The four slave owning states in the Union were exempt.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
He tore the country apart, the north and south were and still are 2 COMPLETELY different places and we will NEVER be united.
That is the Democrat Party......Never united, always divided....
Nope, that's just the way things are. I am no democrat, never have been, never will be. It's just the facts, you can't make something wholly united that was never united to begin with. EACH STATE voluntarily joined the union and had every right to leave the union.
Down here in Floor E Da, we have had an influx of EX New Yorkers showing up at our 2020 Trump rallies,(i mean protests) and they are now confirmed Republican voters because they are tired of the Democrat shit going on. Funny how the people unite against the common enemy of the United States when Evil shows its ugly face....
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
He tore the country apart, the north and south were and still are 2 COMPLETELY different places and we will NEVER be united.
That is the Democrat Party......Never united, always divided....
Nope, that's just the way things are. I am no democrat, never have been, never will be. It's just the facts, you can't make something wholly united that was never united to begin with. EACH STATE voluntarily joined the union and had every right to leave the union.
Down here in Floor E Da, we have had an influx of EX New Yorkers showing up at our 2020 Trump rallies,(i mean protests) and they are now confirmed Republican voters because they are tired of the Democrat shit going on. Funny how the people unite against the common enemy of the United States when Evil shows its ugly face....
I will hopefully be one of them in about a year.
 
Lincoln: Hero or Villain

Let’s Debate.
War Criminal and Tyrant. EVERYONE needs to read The Real Lincoln.
See, go read my first post , he was a Man, flawed at best, and had to do what ever he could to save this country from the people who wanted to tear it apart. Sounds just like what the Democrats are trying to do again, just with a different president...
He tore the country apart, the north and south were and still are 2 COMPLETELY different places and we will NEVER be united.
That is the Democrat Party......Never united, always divided....
Nope, that's just the way things are. I am no democrat, never have been, never will be. It's just the facts, you can't make something wholly united that was never united to begin with. EACH STATE voluntarily joined the union and had every right to leave the union.
Down here in Floor E Da, we have had an influx of EX New Yorkers showing up at our 2020 Trump rallies,(i mean protests) and they are now confirmed Republican voters because they are tired of the Democrat shit going on. Funny how the people unite against the common enemy of the United States when Evil shows its ugly face....
I will hopefully be one of them in about a year.
To Florida? That's the one thing I hate about the South is the humidity and Florida is HORRIBLE the farther south you go. I remember being in Miami and I couldn't breathe!
 

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