Libertarians

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Libertarians have this vast, though relatively simple, platform. They explain their philosophy with ease and precision but there is a reason this (non) governing scheme has never been used.............anywhere, anytime.

Let's take a simple problem and apply a Libertarian solution.

Problem: You live in a Libertarian state and desperately need a new highway between cities. How do you obtain the right of way?

Only Libertarians need answer.
 
...hmmmm...let me guess, you steal the land from the owners and build the stinking highway so more government employees can commute with ease from the 'burbs into their air-conditioned, paper-pushing makework 'job'..

...oh sorry, that would be how you don't-even-know-what-a-dollar-is-republicrat-parrots do things!.. ;)

...the rest of you, have a good day!..
 
...hmmmm...let me guess, you steal the land from the owners and build the stinking highway so more government employees can commute with ease from the 'burbs into their air-conditioned, paper-pushing makework 'job'..

...oh sorry, that would be how you don't-even-know-what-a-dollar-is-republicrat-parrots do things!.. ;)

...the rest of you, have a good day!..

That is probably the first of many stupid answers.
 
Problem #2: You have a Libertarian school system. Strictly pay as you go. Of course this system is very efficient and we will say it is no more expensive than our local Catholic school. They use many unpaid nuns as teachers and administrators.

This school still costs about $3500 per year per student in grades 2 - 8

How could a family with three kids, making 40 grand a year, afford this?
 
Each Libertarian makes his or her own way, independently of course. I wonder though, if mankind is a social animal, what does that make a Libertarian? A social deviant, and their road a socio-path?
 
Libertarians have this vast, though relatively simple, platform. They explain their philosophy with ease and precision but there is a reason this (non) governing scheme has never been used.............anywhere, anytime.
Actually, it was used in America for more than 150 years.

Myth #1: Busted.

Problem: You live in a Libertarian state and desperately need a new highway between cities. How do you obtain the right of way?

Only Libertarians need answer.
You obtain right-of-way by declaring it and paying the landowners just compensation (the 5th Amendment mentions something about this)....We're libertarians, not anarchists.

Myth #2: Busted.
 
Libertarians are the ultimate elitists. They rarely if ever have more than single-digit support, but they brush that off with the attitude that that is only because most people aren't as enlightened as they are.
 
Libertarians are the ultimate elitists. They rarely if ever have more than single-digit support, but they brush that off with the attitude that that is only because most people aren't as enlightened as they are.

The Obama administration has really enhanced the numbers and promoted an interest in the Libertarian Party, through the Tea Party movement. Anxious to see how today goes in four states....
 
Libertarians are the ultimate elitists. They rarely if ever have more than single-digit support, but they brush that off with the attitude that that is only because most people aren't as enlightened as they are.

The Obama administration has really enhanced the numbers and promoted an interest in the Libertarian Party, through the Tea Party movement. Anxious to see how today goes in four states....

Wrong again. Since Obama was nominated, the RW media has hammered away on everything he and the Democratic controlled Congress have offered, and the deposed Republican Party has chosen to not participate in goverance, using tactics focused first and only on their return to power.
Using emotion and the tools of the populist - divide the people, instill fear in the people and use hate filled rhetoric ("Marxist!", etc.) - the RW Fringe has made a mockery of our democratic institutions.
None may call it treason, but I do.
 
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Libertarians are the ultimate elitists. They rarely if ever have more than single-digit support, but they brush that off with the attitude that that is only because most people aren't as enlightened as they are.

The Obama administration has really enhanced the numbers and promoted an interest in the Libertarian Party, through the Tea Party movement. Anxious to see how today goes in four states....

Wrong again. Since Obama was nominated, the RW media has hammered away on everything he and the Democratic controlled Congress have offered, and the deposed Republican Party has chosen to not participate in goverance, using tactics focused first and only on their return to power.
Using emotion and the tools of the populist - divide the people, instill fear in the people and use hate filled rhetoric ("Marxist!", etc.) - the RW Fringe has made a mockery of our democratic institutions.
None may call it treason, but I do.
Oh, the drama of Wry!

You have the USMB leading poster in a dramatic role locked! :thup:
 
Libertarians are the ultimate elitists. They rarely if ever have more than single-digit support, but they brush that off with the attitude that that is only because most people aren't as enlightened as they are.

The Obama administration has really enhanced the numbers and promoted an interest in the Libertarian Party, through the Tea Party movement. Anxious to see how today goes in four states....

Wrong again. Since Obama was nominated, the RW media has hammered away on everything he and the Democratic controlled Congress have offered, and the deposed Republican Party has chosen to not participate in goverance, using tactics focused first and only on their return to power.
Using emotion and the tools of the populist - divide the people, instill fear in the people and use hate filled rhetoric ("Marxist!", etc.) - the RW Fringe has made a mockery of our democratic institutions.
None may call it treason, but I do.

Bush's spending in his later years in office also helped the Libertarian Party. Republicans have learned much about how the people don't want to be goverened. Obama came in and nailed the coffin shut with his socialistic spending and taxing....The Rebublicans will surely listen and learn and when voted in office will help turn this country around, but it will never undo the damage, this administration has caused. As far as getting this country back to sustained order, not a chance. It is much too divided.
 
Some libertarians are realists.

Most I've met on the net are damned fools.

The learn a theory and imagine that that theory has anything to do with the world in which they live.

Here's a hint...it doesn't.
 
Some libertarians are realists.

Most I've met on the net are damned fools.

The learn a theory and imagine that that theory has anything to do with the world in which they live.

Here's a hint...it doesn't.

In the 'world in which we live' we have to have huge, bloated government?

In the 'world in which we live' we really need the level of government regulation in all facets of life we have now?

What do you think libertarians think in terms of the way things should be that is so undoable 'in the world in which we live'?

I don't know why the OP thinks he has stumbled upon a real conundrum. I think most liberatrians would say that infrastructure would be a role of government so they certainly can build roads. Libertarians generally believe the market is self regulating. A transaction is made when two parties agree on a price for service/good. So in this case the government and land owner would agree on a fair price for the land to use for the road. If they can't the government has to go around.
 
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Libertarians have this vast, though relatively simple, platform. They explain their philosophy with ease and precision but there is a reason this (non) governing scheme has never been used.............anywhere, anytime.
Actually, it was used in America for more than 150 years.

Myth #1: Busted.

Problem: You live in a Libertarian state and desperately need a new highway between cities. How do you obtain the right of way?

Only Libertarians need answer.
You obtain right-of-way by declaring it and paying the landowners just compensation (the 5th Amendment mentions something about this)....We're libertarians, not anarchists.

Myth #2: Busted.

Where and when were the libertarians in charge in America?

Libertarians believe property rights are supreme. The very thought of eminent domain would put them into fits.

Obviously you are NOT a good Libertarian.
 
Problem #2: You have a Libertarian school system. Strictly pay as you go. Of course this system is very efficient and we will say it is no more expensive than our local Catholic school. They use many unpaid nuns as teachers and administrators.

This school still costs about $3500 per year per student in grades 2 - 8

How could a family with three kids, making 40 grand a year, afford this?

This is the conversation that people who believe in personal responsibility have:

"You know, wife, I want to have kids but i only want the best education possible for them."

"I agree, husband. Let's have 3 adorable little rug rats and make sure they have the best education money can buy"

"But Wife, We only make 40K a year so that would be impossible"

"Well then, Husband, maybe we should only have as many kids as we can afford to send to the best schools"

"I agree, Wife. How many is that?"

"Well Husband, I think we could afford to send one rug rat to a really good school so let's just have one kid"



Imagine that.
 
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Libertarians have this vast, though relatively simple, platform. They explain their philosophy with ease and precision but there is a reason this (non) governing scheme has never been used.............anywhere, anytime.
Actually, it was used in America for more than 150 years.

Myth #1: Busted.

Problem: You live in a Libertarian state and desperately need a new highway between cities. How do you obtain the right of way?

Only Libertarians need answer.
You obtain right-of-way by declaring it and paying the landowners just compensation (the 5th Amendment mentions something about this)....We're libertarians, not anarchists.

Myth #2: Busted.

Where and when were the libertarians in charge in America?

Libertarians believe property rights are supreme. The very thought of eminent domain would put them into fits.

Obviously you are NOT a good Libertarian.
Old school liberals (today's libertarians) founded this nation, foo.

BTW, I don't rely upon the proclamations of statists to determine whether or not I'm a "good" libertarian or not, Skippy.
 

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