Is this the biggest mistake of the trump era?

What about now? This thread is about the JCPOA, and if it was a mistake, it was.

The JCPOA had a time limit, Trump's policy is Iran can never have nukes, period.

The fact that Iran has 440 kg of highly enriched uranium says that they intend to develop nukes.

Trump is right to end Iran's nuclear and missile development programs.

Iran constituted no imminent threat as Trump falsely claimed after he began bombing it as if it were Pearl Harbor.

Gas prices up nearly a dollar from before Iran war as nationwide climb toward $4 average continues


Trump touts oil price gains, saying 'we make a lot of money.'


Pathetic.
 
If Iran's grip on the Strait can't be loosened it may come down to appeasing them by lifting the sanctions Dotard imposed when he tore up the JCPOA.
 
Did we give Hitler a heads up before D-Day, Moron?
We declared war on Germany on December 11, 1941.

Nazi Germany did not declare war on Poland before it's surprise attack against Poland. It appears to be one of those fascist traits MAGANUT's love about Benedict Donald.
 
If Iran's grip on the Strait can't be loosened it may come down to appeasing them by lifting the sanctions Dotard imposed when he tore up the JCPOA.
Lifting the sanctions after we take Kharg island maybe, so we get the cash.

The JCPOA expired dumbass. Obama gave Iran $56,000,000,000 to spend on terrorism and weapons development.

Trump ended Iran's nuclear, drone, and missile programs. You're welcome.
 
The JCPOA expired dumbass.
As much as I enjoy correcting you I'm beginning to wonder why you write easily demonstrable misinformation.

AI Overview

On May 8, 2018, President Donald Trump announced that the United States would withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear deal.
 
As much as I enjoy correcting you I'm beginning to wonder why you write easily demonstrable misinformation. AI Overview
On May 8, 2018, President Donald Trump announced that the United States would withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear deal.
Yes Trump withdrew from the "flawed" JCPOA.
The JCPOA was temporary, it had a time limit, after which Iran could develop nuclear weapons.
Trump said "no nukes ever". See the difference?


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Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths​

As members of Congress closely examine the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran, various assertions are being made. Some questions are based on legitimate concerns, while other claims made by opponents of the deal are based on fiction.

We are closely tracking both and offer the following responses, which will be updated regularly.


Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation


This war and its aftermath is a self-inflicted wound inflicted by a colossal error made by trump. Not that we've seen all of the consequences yet. It may be months or years before we do. Actions have been set in motion are beyond the control of any one person or country. The outcome is unpredictable.

Perhaps the only person who is getting what they want from this war (besides the shareholders of energy companies) is the war criminal known as Bebe. He must be hoping it will help him in the upcoming elections in Israel. He couldn't care less how many people die or how much is destroyed in pursuit of that goal. It's how he rolls. It's how his fellow war criminal rolls too.

Some critics, like John Bolton and Dick Cheney, have argued that the only way to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon is through the use of military action. This shortsighted and reckless approach would be counter-productive. As former director of the CIA Michael Hayden has explained, bombing Iran “will guarantee that which we are trying to prevent: an Iran that will stop at nothing to, in secret, develop a nuclear weapon.”

Taking military action, instead of implementing the current diplomatic solution, would shatter the international coalition that is applying economic pressure and force the United States to confront Iran without international support.

Even if a US bombing campaign were effective, it would need to be repeated every few years to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, resulting in a never-ending game of “nuclear program whack-a-mole.” Furthermore, we would not have the access or monitoring afforded to us under the agreement in order to detect covert facilities.

It is important to remember that implementing the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action does not take the United States military option off the table. If anything, it strengthens it by improving our understanding of the status and location of Iran’s nuclear program.
if a ship goes down in gulf he will pay the biggest price in American history, if a carrier goes down it may even wipe out his points for sinking hillary, the greatest threat to America.
 
Yes Trump withdrew from the "flawed" JCPOA.
The JCPOA was temporary, it had a time limit, after which Iran could develop nuclear weapons.
Trump said "no nukes ever". See the difference?


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Claim 17: The deal, if implemented, will expire after 10 or 15 years and allow Iran to build a nuclear weapon at that time.​

The Facts:

According to the comprehensive agreement, for at least 15 years, Iran will only enrich uranium up to 3.67 percent (uranium enriched at 20% or lower is considered low enriched uranium (LEU); uranium enriched above 90% is weapons grade.)

This does not, however, mean that on day one of year 16, Iran will have enough weapons-grade uranium to build a bomb. Yes, after 15 years Iran could begin enriching uranium beyond 3.67 percent. But without this deal, Iran could head for a bomb tomorrow.

Some aspects of the agreement will last 25 years, including the monitoring of Iran’s uranium mines and supply chain. Other aspects, such as the implementation of robust IAEA safeguards and access to investigate suspicious sites for illicit nuclear activity, are permanent. Regardless of what specific restrictions are lifted, Iran is still prohibited from pursuing nuclear weapons. Any activity that is clearly not intended for “peaceful use” (i.e. highly enriching uranium) will raise red flags and trigger a response from the international community.

Ultimately, the deal rolls back Iran’s nuclear program for more than a decade, pushing Iran’s “breakout time” (time it would take to enrich enough nuclear material for 1 nuclear weapon) from a few months to at least one year. It also gives IAEA inspectors greater insight for monitoring Iran’s nuclear program well into the future.

 
I didn't say $150b, I said $56b...

Then U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told Congress in July 2015 that Iran gained access to $56 billion via the agreement, a fact check by PolitiFact in 2018 noted.
Thanks for the link.

Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.

After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.

In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.

It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
 
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Yes Trump withdrew from the "flawed" JCPOA.
The JCPOA was temporary, it had a time limit, after which Iran could develop nuclear weapons.
Trump said "no nukes ever". See the difference?


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Yeah, right. Except for the part in the agreement where it said they would never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. It had no time limit. So as long as you ignore that provision, you're right.
 
Yes Trump withdrew from the "flawed" JCPOA.
The JCPOA was temporary, it had a time limit, after which Iran could develop nuclear weapons.
Trump said "no nukes ever". See the difference?


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You see, the problem with the JCPOA is that it only lasts 10-15 years. That’s not a long enough deal.

Trump’s solution to the problem is to end the deal after 3 years.

That’s some real galaxy brain shit.
 
Off topic. Thanks for playing.
Would you rate this doozy as the biggest mistake or was it, "Don't worry, COVID will go away in the spring."
 
If Iran's grip on the Strait can't be loosened it may come down to appeasing them by lifting the sanctions Dotard imposed when he tore up the JCPOA.

The JCPOA was as weak and worthless as the president who signed it.
 
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