Liberals love free speech

[Timmy]

I'm late to the thread . Is this about Colin Kapernick?

 

[BettyYeti]

. The Founders purposely wrote that our rights are given by God so someone couldnt come along and legislate them away.

But yes , the tricky part is having laws that keep the rights of some from trampling over others.

They did not write that our rights come from God. The Constitutions is a secular document, and the Bill of Rights was ratified more than two years after the Constitution.

The second part you wrote is correct.

Ok then , so in the Declaration of independence, which predates the Constitution it is written

WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.–THAT TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED AMONG MEN, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED…

If the governed Give power to the 'Government' and those governed have rights which the government cannot take away, it helps to provide a barrier against tyranny from the federal government BUT when people do not know
these rights exist, They can be taken away. Which actually is one of the aspects people against mass illegal immigration are concerned about. People who come from other countries without our rights have no need to respect those rights . They will be more apt to allow a government to do whatever they want.... as long as they are getting what they think is their fair share of the 'pie'

The Declaration has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, nothing. You might as well have quoted the Mayflower Compact. Irrelevant.

 

[BettyYeti]

I'm late to the thread . Is this about Colin Kapernick?

No. Read the fucking thing then.

 

[norwegen]

I'm late to the thread . Is this about Colin Kapernick?

When you join a discussion, does the topic really matter?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I'm late to the thread . Is this about Colin Kapernick?

When you join a discussion, does the topic really matter?

Not for that dumbazz Timmy.

 

[Pogo]

I'm late to the thread . Is this about Colin Kapernick?

Not yet but there's an easy way to make it so.

Kapernick --- isn't he the guy who declared the earth revolved around the sun and not vice versa, thus defying the ruling hierarchy of the time and basing his theory on common sense rather than submission to authoritarian force?

Sure sounds like a Liberal to me.

 

[norwegen]

. The Founders purposely wrote that our rights are given by God so someone couldnt come along and legislate them away.

But yes , the tricky part is having laws that keep the rights of some from trampling over others.

They did not write that our rights come from God. The Constitutions is a secular document, and the Bill of Rights was ratified more than two years after the Constitution.

The second part you wrote is correct.

Ok then , so in the Declaration of independence, which predates the Constitution it is written

WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.–THAT TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED AMONG MEN, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED…

If the governed Give power to the 'Government' and those governed have rights which the government cannot take away, it helps to provide a barrier against tyranny from the federal government BUT when people do not know
these rights exist, They can be taken away. Which actually is one of the aspects people against mass illegal immigration are concerned about. People who come from other countries without our rights have no need to respect those rights . They will be more apt to allow a government to do whatever they want.... as long as they are getting what they think is their fair share of the 'pie'

The Declaration has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, nothing. You might as well have quoted the Mayflower Compact. Irrelevant.

This thread is now a hopeless clown show.

 

[Pogo]

I'm late to the thread . Is this about Colin Kapernick?

When you join a discussion, does the topic really matter?

Ironic for a guy who just brought in the Northwest Ordinance.

 

[BettyYeti]

. The Founders purposely wrote that our rights are given by God so someone couldnt come along and legislate them away.

But yes , the tricky part is having laws that keep the rights of some from trampling over others.

They did not write that our rights come from God. The Constitutions is a secular document, and the Bill of Rights was ratified more than two years after the Constitution.

The second part you wrote is correct.

Ok then , so in the Declaration of independence, which predates the Constitution it is written

WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.–THAT TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED AMONG MEN, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED…

If the governed Give power to the 'Government' and those governed have rights which the government cannot take away, it helps to provide a barrier against tyranny from the federal government BUT when people do not know
these rights exist, They can be taken away. Which actually is one of the aspects people against mass illegal immigration are concerned about. People who come from other countries without our rights have no need to respect those rights . They will be more apt to allow a government to do whatever they want.... as long as they are getting what they think is their fair share of the 'pie'

The Declaration has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, nothing. You might as well have quoted the Mayflower Compact. Irrelevant.

This thread is now a hopeless clown show.

I thought you were going to show us all how liberal you are by defending liberty, freedom, liberalism? Seems as though you cannot? Which means, you are not a liberal but I am.

 

[the_human_being]

Liberals do not oppose freedom. It may need to be restricted, a time and a place, in times of war, etc. but we do not oppose it in general.

I can't have you preaching about Jesus in the public schools. Save that for the sidewalk outside.

Teaching Christianity in school was actually one of the conservative tenets of the founding era. Read the Northwest Ordinance, for example, and educate yourself.

Actually "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion" pretty much rules that out.

Again --- you're welcome.

The Northwest Ordinance did not establish a religion.

That's what I just said.

How do you Revisionistas think you can get away with this shit when it's so easily referenced?

I'm just curious about how the Denialist brain works.

Well, what the hell are you arguing with, then? Practicing your keystrokes?

I'm not arguing.

 

[the_human_being]

I agreed with you. I said they went ape over anything free.

Liberals do not oppose freedom. It may need to be restricted, a time and a place, in times of war, etc. but we do not oppose it in general.

I can't have you preaching about Jesus in the public schools. Save that for the sidewalk outside.

I'm not a preacher nor a teacher in public schools. Are you loosing your mind?

I'm making a point, it doesn't matter who or what you are, and the word is LOSING.

There is a time and a place where your liberty can be on full display. You can't be teaching kids and showing off your porno collection or telling them all about the three-way you had last night. That version of free speech you can save for the barroom

Actually, I never even mentioned anything about any of that. You are one crazy loon.

I don't care if you mentioned something or not. I'm making a point to everyone who reads the thread.

Actually, I think you just simply can't keep up with who says what on a thread.

 

[BettyYeti]

Liberals do not oppose freedom. It may need to be restricted, a time and a place, in times of war, etc. but we do not oppose it in general.

I can't have you preaching about Jesus in the public schools. Save that for the sidewalk outside.

I'm not a preacher nor a teacher in public schools. Are you loosing your mind?

I'm making a point, it doesn't matter who or what you are, and the word is LOSING.

There is a time and a place where your liberty can be on full display. You can't be teaching kids and showing off your porno collection or telling them all about the three-way you had last night. That version of free speech you can save for the barroom

Actually, I never even mentioned anything about any of that. You are one crazy loon.

I don't care if you mentioned something or not. I'm making a point to everyone who reads the thread.

Actually, I think you just simply can't keep up with who says what on a thread.

I frankly don't give a damn, if I have a point to make.

 

[the_human_being]

I'm not a preacher nor a teacher in public schools. Are you loosing your mind?

I'm making a point, it doesn't matter who or what you are, and the word is LOSING.

There is a time and a place where your liberty can be on full display. You can't be teaching kids and showing off your porno collection or telling them all about the three-way you had last night. That version of free speech you can save for the barroom

Actually, I never even mentioned anything about any of that. You are one crazy loon.

I don't care if you mentioned something or not. I'm making a point to everyone who reads the thread.

Actually, I think you just simply can't keep up with who says what on a thread.

I frankly don't give a damn, if I have a point to make.

Do your children suffer from the same disease?

 

[BettyYeti]

I'm making a point, it doesn't matter who or what you are, and the word is LOSING.

There is a time and a place where your liberty can be on full display. You can't be teaching kids and showing off your porno collection or telling them all about the three-way you had last night. That version of free speech you can save for the barroom

Actually, I never even mentioned anything about any of that. You are one crazy loon.

I don't care if you mentioned something or not. I'm making a point to everyone who reads the thread.

Actually, I think you just simply can't keep up with who says what on a thread.

I frankly don't give a damn, if I have a point to make.

Do your children suffer from the same disease?

It's none of your damn business. Bringing family into discussions is against the rules.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Liberals love free speech

Sure do. We invented it.

You're welcome.

UNL students restricted by new 'respect' policy - The College Fix

UN fucking believable.......

uhhh.... how is this related to "Liberals"?

Marx.did not.....classical liberals aka conservatives did.


And liberals own the universities and set these policies........

 

[buckeye45_73]

If right wingers don't like being called thugs, they should quit being thugs.

When we say that about black you whine racism.......and how are Republicans thugs?

 

[buckeye45_73]

College professor compares Republicans to ‘thugs’ in vicious letter to local GOP organizer

One foaming at the mouth Democrat doesn't exactly describe every liberal. What a smear campaign against colleges in general. I hear about it every night when I tune into Fox. Why is that?
SOME people won't be happy until there are swastikas on every bulletin board. That's what started it, and a lot of people who aren't racist bought into it. Be careful who you hang with.

Old lady it does....liberals do this all the time......at most every university.....and those that don't, do not speak out against it......that's how we know.

 

[BettyYeti]

Liberals love free speech

Sure do. We invented it.

You're welcome.

UNL students restricted by new 'respect' policy - The College Fix

UN fucking believable.......

uhhh.... how is this related to "Liberals"?

Marx.did not.....classical liberals aka conservatives did.


And liberals own the universities and set these policies........

If you love free speech, defend NAMBLA meeting at the local public school (after hours) and discussing how what they stand for can be made legal?

Or Nazis, Satanists, Communists, etc. Any group who stands for what you hate?

 

[Pogo]

Liberals love free speech

Sure do. We invented it.

You're welcome.

UNL students restricted by new 'respect' policy - The College Fix

UN fucking believable.......

uhhh.... how is this related to "Liberals"?

Marx.did not.....classical liberals aka conservatives did.


And liberals own the universities and set these policies........

Oh poster please, give up the revisionista fantasy --- you ain't getting away with making the Founders into "conservatives". That's as absurd as it's always been. They were flaming Liberals which is what they laid down in the Constitution, which is why we're fucking here. The conservatives of the time were the Loyalists who wanted to remain "the Colonies". That's history and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it, and every time you try to you WILL be called on it.

"Marx did not" --- what? Have sex with that woman?

 

[BettyYeti]

Liberals love free speech

Sure do. We invented it.

You're welcome.

UNL students restricted by new 'respect' policy - The College Fix

UN fucking believable.......

uhhh.... how is this related to "Liberals"?

Marx.did not.....classical liberals aka conservatives did.


And liberals own the universities and set these policies........

Oh poster please, give up the revisionista fantasy --- you ain't getting away with making the Founders into "conservatives". That's as absurd as it's always been. They were flaming Liberals which is what they laid down in the Constitution, which is why we're fucking here. The conservatives of the time were the Loyalists who wanted to remain "the Colonies". That's history and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it, and every time you try to you WILL be called on it.

"Marx did not" --- what? Have sex with that woman?

Buck would be a great Tory, and probably still is wanting Putin to be President.