Supreme Court blocks California restrictions on schools notifying parents about students' transgender status

[1srelluc]

Common sense, why do liberals think that parents don't have the right to know whether their children are boys or girls?

They know....It's the vile dems who have other ideas.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The schools aren't doing anything.

Ya got one right JoeBob...or whoever is/was using this account.

 

[CletusSnow]

Um, okay, let's look at that.

If transgenerism was a mental health issue, then it would be protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act.



The only abuse I see is the religious crazies trying to 'fix' their LGBTQ kids.



Um, actually, Crime has been declining since the 1990s.

As for "Child abuse", that's only more visible now because teachers are being trained to look for it and report it.

The real problem is too many people look at public schools as "Free Day Care" and don't give a lot of thought as to what is going on there.

But when little Timmy comes home and starts calling himself Sally, you all freak out and look for someone to blame. (when in fact, the only person to 'blame' here is Sally for being born in the wrong body.)

You should do some more research.

Yes, gender dysphoria can qualify as a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), according to a landmark 2022 federal appeals court ruling (
Williams v. Kincaid). The Fourth Circuit determined that the "clinically significant distress" of gender dysphoria is distinct from excluded "gender identity disorders" and entitles individuals to reasonable accommodations and protections against discrimination

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Um, actually, Crime has been declining since the 1990s.

bad news for the anti-2A crowd

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Common sense, why do liberals think that parents don't have the right to know whether their children are boys or girls?

It's a woke leftist thing rather than a liberal thing, but it's all about teacher's own egos.


Essentially, they get woke brownie points if they help influence a child to become transexual through all their systematic positive reinforcement so don't want the parents to know because of such involvement on their part.

 

[DStar777]

But when little Timmy comes home and starts calling himself Sally, you all freak out and look for someone to blame. (when in fact, the only person to 'blame' here is Sally for being born in the wrong body.)

But little Timmy is NOT coming home and calling himself Sally to his parents. He's hiding that from his parents out of fear and the State is attempting to protect Timmy ... from his own parents. The assumption being that his own parents will "abuse" poor Timmy if the State allows disclosure of his so called condition.

I'm curious how many other "conditions" the State should help a minor hide from his parents out of fear.

 

[JoeB131]

The stupidity is amazing. Gender Dysphoria is mental illness not a disability.

Okay, but mental illness is considered a disability under ADA, that's the whole point. I used to work with a guy who was a schizophrenic, and he stopped taking his meds, or the meds stopped working. But the managers were terrified to fire him, even though he was terrifying the shit out of his department with his erratic behavior.

(They finally got rid of him for eating his lunch in a sterile area, and he quit.)

So by your logic, if people with Gender Dysphoria are "Mentally Ill", then the schools and businesses are required to make "reasonable accommedations" for them. Letting them pee in the bathroom of their choice and calling them "Sally" is a pretty reasonable accommedation.

ITs treated with family therapy not hormones and surgery that damage the body and increase depression and suicide as well as cancer risks.

Except those things DON'T WORK! It's why credible organizations like the APA recommend against it.

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2009/08/therapeutic

You cant be born in the wrong body its a mental illness. Enabling gender dysphoria is toxic empathy combined with a special kind of stupidity. The result child abuse

Works on the assumption that one's sense of self resides in the genitals and not the brain. There have been scientific studies that have shown that the brains of transgender people resemble the brains of their chosen sex, not their biological sex.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8955456/

You should do some more research.

Yes, gender dysphoria can qualify as a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), according to a landmark 2022 federal appeals court ruling (
Williams v. Kincaid). The Fourth Circuit determined that the "clinically significant distress" of gender dysphoria is distinct from excluded "gender identity disorders" and entitles individuals to reasonable accommodations and protections against discrimination

Um, you just repeated what I just said.

 

[JoeB131]

But little Timmy is NOT coming home and calling himself Sally to his parents. He's hiding that from his parents out of fear and the State is attempting to protect Timmy ... from his own parents. The assumption being that his own parents will "abuse" poor Timmy if the State allows disclosure of his so called condition.

I'm curious how many other "conditions" the State should help a minor hide from his parents out of fear.

If Little Sally is terrified of her bigoted parents, shouldn't the school protect them.

Let's say they report little Sally, and little Sally comes into school the next day dressed as Timmy but with a big old shiner.

Then what?

 

[DStar777]

If Little Sally is terrified of her bigoted parents, shouldn't the school protect them?

If that's the case, how about we just take care of the problem at the source. Let's imprison all the "bigots" so everyone is protected. Even better.. make it illegal to be a Conservative Christian and imprison them all. Castrate the Conservative Christian men so that they can't have kids in the first place.. cuz Lord knows if they do, they'll just beat them with a shovel.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If that's the case, how about we just take care of the problem at the source. Let's imprison all the "bigots" so everyone is protected. Even better.. make it illegal to be a Conservative Christian and imprison them all. Castrate the Conservative Christian men so that they can't have kids in the first place.. cuz Lord knows if they do, they'll just beat them with a shovel.

I don't think that goes far enough.

You really need to outlaw all forms of thinking in order to establish that true woketopia he desires.

 

[pknopp]

Common sense, why do liberals think that parents don't have the right to know whether their children are boys or girls?

Maybe they should be involved in their life.

Parent's have every right to talk to their kids.

Do you think the schools are responsible for raising the kids along with the parents? Does it take a village?

If a teacher over hears a kid say "I've been thinking about converting to Islam" that they have an obligation to call the parent's? Or is it really any of the schools business?

 

[JoeB131]

If that's the case, how about we just take care of the problem at the source. Let's imprison all the "bigots" so everyone is protected. Even better.. make it illegal to be a Conservative Christian and imprison them all. Castrate the Conservative Christian men so that they can't have kids in the first place.. cuz Lord knows if they do, they'll just beat them with a shovel.

Now you are getting a little hysterical.

Hey, do you know why we don't burn witches at the stake anymore? Not because "god" changed his mind, we changed ours.

 

[CletusSnow]

Okay, but mental illness is considered a disability under ADA, that's the whole point. I used to work with a guy who was a schizophrenic, and he stopped taking his meds, or the meds stopped working. But the managers were terrified to fire him, even though he was terrifying the shit out of his department with his erratic behavior.

(They finally got rid of him for eating his lunch in a sterile area, and he quit.)

So by your logic, if people with Gender Dysphoria are "Mentally Ill", then the schools and businesses are required to make "reasonable accommedations" for them. Letting them pee in the bathroom of their choice and calling them "Sally" is a pretty reasonable accommedation.



Except those things DON'T WORK! It's why credible organizations like the APA recommend against it.

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2009/08/therapeutic

Works on the assumption that one's sense of self resides in the genitals and not the brain. There have been scientific studies that have shown that the brains of transgender people resemble the brains of their chosen sex, not their biological sex.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8955456/


Um, you just repeated what I just said.

Not quite.

You said:
If transgenerism was a mental health issue, then it would be protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

There's no "if" about it. Gender dysphoria already is categorized.

 

[Independent thinker]

"Supreme Court blocks California restrictions on schools notifying parents about students' transgender status
Parents and teachers who oppose the state policies sued, claiming their parental, free speech and religious rights were violated.
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday barred California from enforcing state rules that restrict when schools can notify parents about students who come out as transgender and requires teachers to use children's preferred pronouns.


The court, on a 6-3 vote on ideological lines, allowed a federal judge’s ruling in favor of parents who oppose the policy on religious grounds to go into effect. The San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals had put the judge’s decision on hold pending further litigation.

The court's ruling focused on the parents' claim that their rights under the free exercise clause of the Constitution's First Amendment were violated. The court also said they have valid parental rights claims under the Constitution's 14th Amendment.

The court did not grant a similar request made by teachers who object to the policy.

"We conclude that the parents who seek religious exemptions are likely to succeed on the merits of their Free Exercise Clause claim," the court said in an unsigned opinion.

"The parents who assert a free exercise claim have sincere religious beliefs about sex and gender, and they feel a religious obligation to raise their children in accordance with those beliefs," the court added.

As for the parental rights claim, the court said that longstanding precedent says parents have primary responsibility over how to raise their children."

Supreme Court blocks California restrictions on schools notifying parents about students' transgender status

Parents and teachers who oppose the state policies sued, claiming their parental, free speech and religious rights were violated.

www.nbcnews.com

Good job by the parents for fighting the totalitarian Democrats. Parents have every right to know what the schools are doing with their children.

I find it amazing that a country who has all kinds of laws saying that minors have no legal rights has leftist whackos claiming that minors have more rights than their parents.

 

[Eman623]

And of course none of the teachers, administrators and politicians who pushed the nonsense on kids will be punished. It’s child abuse, and for what? Social credit points?

Justice Elena Kagan, joined by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson in the dissent.

"A mere decade ago, this Court would never have granted relief in this posture,” Justice Kagan writes in dissent.

She's correct....That's how close we are to having our children groomed by the likes of Newsome's crowd.

A mere decade ago, the left would have considered the notion of affirming teenagers with mental disorders as valid, forcing teachers to go along with the madness, and keeping it secret from the parents crazy.

 

[martybegan]

Now you are getting a little hysterical.

Hey, do you know why we don't burn witches at the stake anymore? Not because "god" changed his mind, we changed ours.

No, you guys cancel people who have the audacity to think differently from the SJW hive mind.

 

[JoeB131]

Not quite.

You said:
If transgenerism was a mental health issue, then it would be protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

There's no "if" about it. Gender dysphoria already is categorized.

Not exactly. It's classified as the distress one feels about not being accepted. So not all Transgenders are mentally ill, under the definition.

 

[JoeB131]

No, you guys cancel people who have the audacity to think differently from the SJW hive mind.

Cancel culture is practiced on both sides. Just ask the Dixie Chicks. Or Jane Fonda. Or Colin Kapernick

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How about we concentrate on EDUCATING THE YOUTH.



Lefties in charge of education ON PURPOSE do not educate on BASIC THINGS, LIKE HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY AND GOVERNMENT.

Just vote communist and WHITE MAN BAD.

That's funny. All of my kids and grandkids know this! So did all of my students because I taught them. These airheads were taught, but they had no reason to remember. They think it's cute to be ditzy!

 

[martybegan]

Cancel culture is practiced on both sides. Just ask the Dixie Chicks. Or Jane Fonda. Or Colin Kapernick

It is perfected by the left, who keep going and going well past what the right does.

For the left it goes down to even speaking at an event.