Liberal educators are breaking the law in Oklahoma

[Moonglow]

lol - only if they try to change your gender.

No, it's softer than that. Thankfully OK doesn't go in much for the CRT. (Which is kinda interesting, we live on the Trail of Tears just a few miles from the biggest reservation in the US, they don't go for it either).

It's a nation, not a reservation.

 

[rampart]

It takes more than 3 days, don't it?

I shouldn't make light of it, it's serious stuff.

Trumpy is a funny guy though.

it would take longer than 3 days to teach any teen age boy i ever met to "groom" his own hair.

i don't think it's serious? maybe trump meant that as humor?

anyway, i'd have called out missing persons the minute he was late the FIRST day?

 

[Moonglow]

even worse " you send little jimmy off to school and he comes home 3 days later , a different gender" trump

nope, I'm afraid not.

 

[Moonglow]

Oklahoma is a state that takes pride in its white supremacy.

 

[scruffy]

It's a nation, not a reservation.

Well excuuuuuse me!

It's a casino now.

 

[Moonglow]

Well excuuuuuse me!

It's a casino now.

I lived in OKC fer 25 years until I finally got my wish to move out of Okiehoma.

 

[scruffy]

Oklahoma is a state that takes pride in its white supremacy.

Nah, we all get along.

Except for the Canadians over in Berryhill, we don't like them very much.

 

[Moonglow]

Nah, we all get along.

Except for the Canadians over in Berryhill, we don't like them very much.

The governor is still trying to get its power back from the Native Ameican nations.

 

[Father O'Blivion]

You can home school your child in Oklahoma, the rules are pretty lax. You just have to make sure your kid studies for 180 days out of the year. There are guidelines and standards but nowhere does it say you can't teach the Bible.

Also Bible History is already an elective in many high schools. It falls under the umbrella of "social studies" which is a broad topic, it includes things like basic psychology and even Prager U is on the official resource list. Our kids did "college prep" which is pretty traditional, it focuses on American and European history ("western civilization") and stuff like that, but my daughter almost talked me into letting her take art history till I found out it was a do-nothing class for seniors then I told her to wait till she got to college.

Still, making sure a teacher is Christian before they are hired would be a good idea, don't you agree?

 

[Moonglow]

Still, making sure a teacher is Christian before they are hired would be a good idea, don't you agree?

No. Freedom of religion is not a right to force yer religion on me or my kids.

 

[Father O'Blivion]

No. Freedom of religion is not a right to force yer religion on me or my kids.

It's what they really want though.

 

[sparky]

Freedom of religion is not a right to force yer religion on me or my kids.

there would seem a conflict in freedom of vs freedom from

~S~

 

[pknopp]

“that dozens of superintendents are blowing off a Walters directive announced this past summer that "all Oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the Bible, which includes the Ten Commandments, as an instructional support into the curriculum across specified grade levels, e.g., grades 5 through 12.””

What is it about “thou shall not kill” that lib educators do not understand?

"Miss Landers, what does it mean to covet they neighbors wife"?

 

[pknopp]

there would seem a conflict in freedom of vs freedom from

~S~

There is no such thing as "freedom from" but this edict is clearly a violation of the establishment restrictions.

 

[Dragonlady]

And they're being blatant about it. No wonder the other side is considered the Law and Order party. This makes it easy for the people of Oklahoma to decide who to vote for on election day.

---Oklahoma school officials revolt over MAGA superintendent's new Bible mandate---

MSN

No law is being broken. There is no law to allow the teaching of the Bible in class, but there are laws making it illegal to do so.

These educators are FOLLOWING the law, by refusing to teach the Bible in a public school.

 

[Dragonlady]

“that dozens of superintendents are blowing off a Walters directive announced this past summer that "all Oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the Bible, which includes the Ten Commandments, as an instructional support into the curriculum across specified grade levels, e.g., grades 5 through 12.””

What is it about “thou shall not kill” that lib educators do not understand?

What is it about the "separation of church and state" that right wingers to not understand????

 

[Mac-7]

Why not teach the Eight Fold Way?

It's just as good.

More comprehensive, even

The Noble Eightfold Path is a set of eight practices in Buddhism that are believed to help cultivate wisdom and end suffering:

• Right view: An accurate understanding of the nature of things, especially the Four Noble Truths
• Right intention: Avoiding thoughts of hatred, attachment, and harmful intent
• Right speech: Refraining from verbal misdeeds like lying, harsh speech, and divisive speech
• Right action: Refraining from physical misdeeds like stealing, sexual misconduct, and killing
• Right livelihood: Avoiding trades that harm others, either directly or indirectly
• Right effort: Cultivating the qualities of mind needed to remain vigilant along the path
• Right mindfulness: A state of mind that is beyond the limitations of space and time
• Right concentration: Also known as right samadhi, which means "meditative absorption or union"

That sounds ok for India or Thailand

But this is America where Christ is King

 

[Resnic]

Well, if the Bible is to be included so should the Koran, Tora and whatever the hell witches use.

No it should not.

America is founded and based on Christianity. That's part of what took us from nothing to a world super power in record time.

Christianity is the overall religion of the land. Just like were an English speaking country, were based on capitalism, it's why we have a 2 party system, we have the right to free speech and so on.

Now freedom of religion means people can have their churches and believe what they want and practice their religion in their homes. But what that doesn't mean is every religion must be taught to every person.

To live in America means you need to conform to America's morals, values and standards in a general sense. If you can't conform then you shouldn't be here. To live in America means you're an American and as a American you accept certain laws and customs of America.

If America bows to every person's wishes and tries to please every person then we cease to be everything that makes America America.

 

[j-mac]

Liberal educators are killers?

Killers of intelligence....That's for sure...

 

[Dragonlady]

There is no such thing as "freedom from" but this edict is clearly a violation of the establishment restrictions.

Your Constitution requires that the secular world and the religious world be kept separate. Your nation was founded by Protestants fleeing the religious violence and persecution of the Reformation.

The USA was founded as the Spanish Inquisition was still ongoing. Virtually all of the wars of the last 2000 years in Europe, have some religious component to them. The Catholic Church has been intimately involved with European monarchs and governments since it's founding, and not for the betterment of humanity, but in order to preserve their own wealth and power.

Your Founders did not want religious wars or religious influence on their government. Now you have a large faction of ultra right wing CATHOLICS, which want to take over the US government. They've got the Supreme Court (6 of the nine justices are Catholic), and now they're going for the White House.