Lets talk about Tariffs and what they mean to you!

Trump raised Tariffs on China in 2017 and for the past 4 years, he has stated that if reelected he would raise tariffs on China even more (60% or more). He reinforced that view recently in August, 2024.

Economists across the board have stated that such a tariff increase would make inflation soar. Nonetheless, Trumpers have pooh-poohed those predictions as being biased against Trump.

Well, here is one predictor that we ALL know and mostly respect, for the simple reason that we all shop there as it is a company that generally offers the lowest prices for products, meaning that if anyone knows about pricing of products, this company knows:

Do you now believe and understand that what Trump has promised to do, will make our lives more difficult without accomplishing much benefit?

It also needs to be clearly understood that if Trump by any chance changes his mind, it will mean a promise that he made 8 years ago (and he did keep) and has made it again for this term, will become a broken promise. Is Trump's caring for Americans greater than the pride/ego for himself? I don't think so.

If he doesn't change his mind (most likely scenario), we all (including his supporters) will suffer the consequences.

What do you prefer he do?


You do know xiden left the original Trump tariffs in place, right? In fact he has increased them because XI hasn't lived up to the agreement he made with Trump. It's doubtful the tariffs on China will increase very much, if any. So take your fear mongering bullshit and put it were it belongs on your own anatomy.


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Let me give you a warning in advance. My patience in talking to misinformed people is limited. I only do it a few times and then I close the door. Wasting my time repeatedly is not something I am prepared to do for long,

Granting Iran access to the funds is the most controversial aspect of the deal and has produced a flurry of incorrect claims. At its core, the arrangement will allow Iran to use its own money and may improve its access to certain humanitarian goods, such as food and medicine.

lol like I care. I will just keep mocking your stupid efforts and ideological rubbish spreading.
 
Wow, you are a true patriot. Evidently though, money is not as concerning to you as it is for most Americans. Most cannot afford to do what you do
Ever since my first surgery in my twenties, I have had to be fine with living below the poverty line. Understanding that, and coming to terms with it was a journey, TBH.

I don't care.


As long as I have a bed to sleep in, and food, I have no other needs.

My family and nation are far more important than material wants.

So yeah, you are correct, money and luxuries don't mean shit to me. Desire for wealth and material comforts are a weakness which blinds you to what is important in life.



. . . and if I can do it?


Anyone can. And on this? It is a wisdom that has been known for centuries.

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Ever since my first surgery in my twenties, I have had to be fine with living below the poverty line. Understanding that, and coming to terms with it was a journey, TBH.

I don't care.


As long as I have a bed to sleep in, and food, I have no other needs.

My family and nation are far more important than material wants.

So yeah, you are correct, money and luxuries don't mean shit to me. Desire for wealth and material comforts are a weakness which blinds you to what is important in life.



. . . and if I can do it?


Anyone can. And on this? It is a wisdom that has been known for centuries.

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You are exception to the rule
 
You do know xiden left the original Trump tariffs in place, right? In fact he has increased them because XI hasn't lived up to the agreement he made with Trump. It's doubtful the tariffs on China will increase very much, if any. So take your fear mongering bullshit and put it were it belongs on your own anatomy.


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You should read all my posts on this OP before putting up an unnecessary post
 
Any price increases on imported goods will passed on to consumer. Tariffs are, as Senator Rand Paul R-KY), "A Tax On The Consumer".
Well then?

What is the take away?

Folks should stop buying imports and buy local.

:rolleyes:
 
We did not have endless crap about the inflation before Joe was installed in 2021. We got nothing for it. Trump trying to get manufacturing ack and get revenue also. Joe got revenue from the peasants he promised to not raise taxes on. The most insidious tax though that despots use was given to us. They knew what they were doing.
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You are exception to the rule
Of course.

Rules are meant to be broken. . . and I am to be an example to others as to what the real rules are.

These are the rules our ancestors and founders lived by.
 
No, Trump should stop being incompetent and use his brains (if he has any)
So making policies that favor global corporations and other nations is what you consider "competent?"

Wow. No wonder most of this community has gotten the impression that you are an anti-American subversive.
 
Chinese made junk might cost more at Walmart but it will cost you a lot less in gas to get there. American farm products and groceries will be cheaper. There will be more jobs to produce American made products and salaries will be higher. Old Joe never had a new idea in his freaking head since the 1980's. Why not give Trump's ideas a chance? Still too much hatred among the losers?
 
You need to read something besides Democratic Underground and getting your news from The View.

Price increases on imported goods on the distributor will force the distributors raise the price on consumer goods.

Chinese goods are sold world wide. Any price increase on goods by the U.S. will simply mean nothing. A dip in U.S. imports will be more nothing than a blip. Other countries will take advantage of it and move on.
 
So making policies that favor global corporations and other nations is what you consider "competent?"

Wow. No wonder most of this community has gotten the impression that you are an anti-American subversive.

And those corporations sold us out in a heartbeat every chance they got.
 
Price increases on imported goods on the distributor will force the distributors raise the price on consumer goods.

Chinese goods are sold world wide. Any price increase on goods by the U.S. will simply mean nothing. A dip in U.S. imports will be more nothing than a blip. Other countries will take advantage of it and move on.
But if I can buy the same product at a lower price from a domestic producer, then the price didn't go up.
 
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So making policies that favor global corporations and other nations is what you consider "competent?"

Wow. No wonder most of this community has gotten the impression that you are an anti-American subversive.
No, you are going to the other extreme. All extremes are bad.
 
Who do YOU think will pay for increase of imported from the Chinese? I base what I say on facts. Basic economics. You have no idea of what you are talking and it shows.

lol **** off, gimp. You know squat, just parroting whatever your Hive tells you to. You also seem to think we have to buy most of that crap. We don't, dufus.
 
A reminder that CCP China has been "at war" with the USA for some time now, on every front possible. Political; international relations; espionage(stealing secrets and patent rights); ideological, especially with communist infiltration to our education systems; military weapons and buildup - sabre rattling towards Taiwan, etc.; and especially economics.

The last thing the USA should do is feed CCP China's coffers~treasury.

Second Trump Term May Push China’s Economy Over the Cliff​

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The Chinese economy is in far worse shape than it was in 2016, and a second Trump term could push it over the edge.

When news broke that former President Donald Trump had won reelection, stock markets rallied, the dollar rose, the yuan fell, and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) likely despaired. The trade war Trump launched against China in his first term slowed China’s growth, weakened its currency, and drove up its debt. However, China managed to withstand the first round of a Trump battle thanks to an otherwise strong economy.

In his second term, Trump has vowed to take an even tougher stance on China, reappointing Robert Lighthizer—the mastermind behind the original China trade war—as the new U.S. Trade Representative. Lighthizer, known for his pivotal work in quantifying the CCP’s intellectual property theft at between $225 billion and $600 billion annually, has long recommended that the United States decouple from China, a stance he reiterated in his 2023 book, “No Trade Is Free.” Since leaving his previous role in government, Lighthizer has worked at the Center for American Trade at the America First Policy Institute, a think tank that advocates holding China accountable for unfair trade practices, intellectual property theft, and environmental violations.

After four years of Trump tariffs, four years of Biden tariffs, prolonged COVID-19 lockdowns, and steady “de-risking“ by European and G7 countries, the Chinese economy remains in the doldrums. Youth unemployment was nearly 19 percent in August, close to the record high of 21.3 percent in 2023. The property sector continues to decline, with new home prices dropping, and local government debt, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) estimates, now stands at $8.4 trillion.

At the end of 2023, the IMF estimated China’s total government debt to be $20.7 trillion, while corporate debt was roughly 350 trillion yuan, or $48.76 trillion. With China’s gross domestic product (GDP) at just $18.2 trillion, the nation’s debt is more than three times the size of its economy.
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In his first term, Trump imposed tariffs of up to 25 percent on Chinese products. This time, he has pledged tariffs as high as 60 percent on Chinese imports, a move that could severely cripple China’s export sector. ... The Trump–Lighthizer duo could, in effect, decimate China’s manufacturing sector, stifling exports and driving up unemployment.
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Xi is now up against a reinvigorated Trump, the original China hawk, backed by a favorable Congress and a U.S. populace with a record 81 percent unfavorable view of China. Americans are far more likely to support a trade war now, and with China’s weakened economy, a renewed trade war could deliver a massive blow to Beijing.
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The object of war is a better peace.
You don't win by pulling your punches.
 

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