Zone1 Let it be said that legalized abortion on demand cheapens/ devalues life.

[whutTHEYsay]

So fetal HOMICIDE laws?

When a woman chooses to give life or has not decided the fetus in her body gets the same right to life that she has by virtue of being born. That is why it has been explained 1 million times it is homicide for a person who is not the pregnant person to take the life of someone else’s fetus Comprende.

 

[Zincwarrior]

There is no competing rights debate. A glob of tissue shouldn't have more rights than the woman it is inside.

Her body. Her choice.

Oh contraire, in New Gideon it definitely does. Ask Texas, Louisiana, and Alabama.

 

[Chuz Life]

Sure I can.

YOu will find no record of my existence before May 7th 1962.

Are your parents still around? I would like to speak with one or both of them.

Not that I need to, but if you won't listen to the biological facts from me, any of the other sources, or AI,? Maybe one of them can convince you that YOU existed before you received any government recognition in the form of a birth certificate.

 

[JoeB131]

Are your parents still around? I would like to speak with one or both of them.

Not that I need to, but if you won't listen to the biological facts from me, any of the other sources, or AI,? Maybe one of them can convince you that YOU existed before you received any government recognition in the form of a birth certificate.

But I didn't LEGALLY exist, that's the point.

Now, my parents (who passed away in the 1980s) had a pregnancy between my two older sisters that miscarried.

They did not consider that to be a child, it was merely a life that didn't happen. Which is what a miscarriage or an abortion is. The only difference is abortion is a choice.

 

[Chuz Life]

But I didn't LEGALLY exist, that's the point.

Now, my parents (who passed away in the 1980s) had a pregnancy between my two older sisters that miscarried.

They did not consider that to be a child, it was merely a life that didn't happen. Which is what a miscarriage or an abortion is. The only difference is abortion is a choice.

Did your body physically, biologically exist before you received a Birth Certificate, Joey?

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Your claim is unsupported by any biological facts, Joey. And I don't even need to check with any AI chatbots to know that you can't back up your (above) claim.

I recently had an abortion. All the shit you talk did not influence me at all. My body my choice and trust me you do not want to go on that hill. Scumbags like you that want to prevent woman from getting an abortion. You will NEVER stop abortions. We will take it "underground" if need be.

You want to know if your Glock can have pepper spray. What an impotent cuck you are

 

[JoeB131]

Did your body physically, biologically exist before you received a Birth Certificate, Joey?

Possibly. But it wasn't viable until I was born.

I recently had an abortion. All the shit you talk did not influence me at all. My body my choice and trust me you do not want to go on that hill. Scumbags like you that want to prevent woman from getting an abortion. You will NEVER stop abortions. We will take it "underground" if need be.

You want to know if your Glock can have pepper spray. What an impotent cuck you are

And this is what CHuzy doesn't get. For a woman, it's often the hardest decision they have to make. But it's still her decision.

 

[Chuz Life]

Possibly. But it wasn't viable until I was born.



And this is what CHuzy doesn't get. For a woman, it's often the hardest decision they have to make. But it's still her decision.

Does a human being lose their personhood, if they become less viable after parturition takes place, Joey?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

But I didn't LEGALLY exist, that's the point.

but you did exist, the fact that the law did not recognize this proves the folly of the law.

Now, my parents (who passed away in the 1980s) had a pregnancy between my two older sisters that miscarried.

They did not consider that to be a child, it was merely a life that didn't happen.

so? all that means is that because it was not a child in no way means it is not a life...by law you are not a child, do you consider yourself a life that does not matter? [c'mon, make it unanimous]

Which is what a miscarriage or an abortion is. The only difference is abortion is a choice.

But that difference is what gives weight to the pro-life argument...try this, a miscarriage is the accidental taking of a life, an abortion is the intentional taking of a life...the OP's point is driven home by your claims... that you must cheapen the taking of a life by your use of language to continue down that path.

 

[Chuz Life]

but you did exist, the fact that the law did not recognize this proves the folly of the law.

so? all that means is that because it was not a child in no way means it is not a life...by law you are not a child, do you consider yourself a life that does not matter? [c'mon, make it unanimous]

But that difference is what gives weight to the pro-life argument...try this, a miscarriage is the accidental taking of a life, an abortion is the intentional taking of a life...the OP's point is driven home by your claims... that you must cheapen the taking of a life by your use of language to continue down that path.

His hangup is not with the biological facts and common sense.

He's so blinded by his hatred and disdain for me personally, he doesn't care what an idiot he makes himself look like. He's so deeply invested in his denials that he can't afford to cede even the smallest of points being made against him. Well, at least not here on USMB.

Who knows what people say in their time away or on any of the other forums.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

His hangup is not with the biological facts and common sense.

He's so blinded by his hatred and disdain for me personally, he doesn't care what an idiot he makes himself look like. He's so deeply invested in his denials that he can't afford to cede even the smallest of points being made against him. Well, at least not here on USMB.

Who knows what people say in their time away or on any of the other forums.

Hopefully this doesn't change your opinion of me but I too am pro-choice personally, but I understand the pro-life stance and think that it gets done a great disservice by our coverage of them...we need to get the media into a neutral position on this issue.

 

[Chuz Life]

Hopefully this doesn't change your opinion of me but I too am pro-choice personally, but I understand the pro-life stance and think that it gets done a great disservice by our coverage of them...we need to get the media into a neutral position on this issue.

I don't form opinions on anyone's stance alone, as long as they engage in discussions with consideration and aren't afraid to at least acknowledge a biological fact when a biological fact is pointed out.

Since we have so little engagement on that, I have neither a good or bad opinion of you personally. Just that you are an abortion proponent, which I wouldn't have known, had you not mentioned it.

 

[midcan5]

For women especially young women, it has nothing to do with you. Each person makes their own decision when it comes to the complex act of birth etc. So called righteous souls pretend they luv the unborn, of course they do, it is easy but ask them to do something real for the born and they quickly disappear. I have know a few women who made that tough decision and that is up to them and not the state or the religious. Care for the living for a change.

Does a child die of hunger every 10 seconds?

It's a shocking statistic that a child dies of hunger every 10 seconds, very good at grabbing headlines. But is it true?

www.bbc.com

 

[Chuz Life]

For women especially young women, it has nothing to do with you. Each person makes their own decision when it comes to the complex act of birth etc. So called righteous souls pretend they luv the unborn, of course they do, it is easy but ask them to do something real for the born and they quickly disappear. I have know a few women who made that tough decision and that is up to them and not the state or the religious. Care for the living for a change.

Does a child die of hunger every 10 seconds?

It's a shocking statistic that a child dies of hunger every 10 seconds, very good at grabbing headlines. But is it true?

www.bbc.com

I don't have to "love babies, cherish life, value life. . . " to be able to objectively see that an abortion kills a child.

That's simply a biological fact that somebody (You?) will have to refute before I am ever going to stop trying to point it out.

 

[JoeB131]

Does a human being lose their personhood, if they become less viable after parturition takes place, Joey?

Fetuses aren't people.

It would be insane to consider them people.

I don't have to "love babies, cherish life, value life. . . " to be able to objectively see that an abortion kills a child.

Because fetuses aren't "children". And given your side consistently cuts aid to actually children (especially the ones who aren't white), I don't think I'll take your mewling seriously.

So you can impotently rage at women outside the abortion clinic, but the fact is, they will still have abortions.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Because fetuses aren't "children". And given your side consistently cuts aid to actually children (especially the ones who aren't white), I don't think I'll take your mewling seriously.

TRANSLATION: "Children/fetus' need to be aborted, (especially the ones who aren't white"), and I can assure you this is not just some non-serious mewling."

 

[Frankeneinstein]

So you can impotently rage at women outside the abortion clinic, but the fact is, they will still have abortions.

And yet you stand on the sideline cheerleading for these abortions you pretend are somehow threatened.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Because fetuses aren't "children".

Neither are adults.

 

[Chuz Life]

Fetuses aren't people.

It would be insane to consider them people.



Because fetuses aren't "children". And given your side consistently cuts aid to actually children (especially the ones who aren't white), I don't think I'll take your mewling seriously.

So you can impotently rage at women outside the abortion clinic, but the fact is, they will still have abortions.

Mods can we please have a means to respond to a post like this one with a poll?

Does ANYONE really agree with Joey on this, or is my hunch right that he is simply trolling?

 

[Chuz Life]

Because fetuses aren't "children"

Do human beings who are only in the fetal stage of their life, growth, and development not already have biological "parents?" Joey?


As human beings are placental mammals that, by definition, "carry their YOUNG in the womb. . . " We all know that they do, in fact, have biological parents.

It's a scientific fact.